Non shmup arcade games you can 1CC?

[A_Civilian]

Puzzle Bobble
The House of the Dead
The House of the Dead 4.

...I need to finish more games. And maybe play less games that don't have "clear" markings (the rhythms are taking more than 1/2 my arcade time).

[Skykid]

You guys that cleared the Time Crisis games... that is an achievement. I saw a video on Youtube of a Time Crisis 4 1CC a while ago and I think it was from someone here on this forum.

Has anyone tried Time Crisis Razing Storm?

Yes, I like Razing Storm, although I haven't dedicated much time to it. I play less LG shooters these days. I put time into the new Elevator Action LG game, but its difficulty curve is so screwed up it's not worth playing. I coast through to the last stage and then it rapes you to death on the final stretch and bosses. Stupidly so.

Finishing TC games in the arcade isn't that tough. Scoring well is another matter. TC4 is a horrible, horrible game, and not worthy of the series. Banish it.

I'll tell you what is an achievement though: so many people here have put down HOTD 1,3 and 4 clears - no-one has put down HOTD2.

Seriously, that is one hard game. I used to play with my GF and we could reach the Magician on a credit, but it's just way too difficult at that point. I pushed onto his final form once, but no cigar.

[boagman]

Seriously, that is one hard game. I used to play with my GF and we could reach the Magician on a credit, but it's just way too difficult at that point. I pushed onto his final form once, but no cigar.

So, wait...just so we're clear and I fully understand you correctly: Magician is the final boss in HOTD1 *and* the penultimate boss in HOTD2, and he never really "changes forms" in either game, either. He does have a few different attacks, yes, but his form never changes.

In HOTD2, the final boss is The Emperor, who better fits your description. Is that the character to whom you're referring?

[Skykid]

Seriously, that is one hard game. I used to play with my GF and we could reach the Magician on a credit, but it's just way too difficult at that point. I pushed onto his final form once, but no cigar.

So, wait...just so we're clear and I fully understand you correctly: Magician is the final boss in HOTD1 *and* the penultimate boss in HOTD2, and he never really "changes forms" in either game, either. He does have a few different attacks, yes, but his form never changes.

In HOTD2, the final boss is The Emperor, who better fits your description. Is that the character to whom you're referring?

Hey,

Yes, could be remembering wrong, only ever played the game in the arcade (and many years ago.) Magician is the penultimate boss definitely in HOTD2, right, you fight him in the courtyard between the buildings and he zips all over the place leaving trails and then sweeps in for the kill at light speed?

After that when you get to the top of the building you fight that silver motherfucker in the orb who just shoots shit at you faster than you can take it out. I got to him once. Assuming he's the Emperor of which you speak.

[boagman]

Yes, could be remembering wrong, only ever played the game in the arcade (and many years ago.) Magician is the penultimate boss definitely in HOTD2, right, you fight him in the courtyard between the buildings and he zips all over the place leaving trails and then sweeps in for the kill at light speed?

After that when you get to the top of the building you fight that silver motherfucker in the orb who just shoots shit at you faster than you can take it out. I got to him once. Assuming he's the Emperor of which you speak.

Yep, now you've got it straight. The Emperor can be nasty, but for darned sure: he's *far* more difficult than Magician is.

[Skykid]

Yes, could be remembering wrong, only ever played the game in the arcade (and many years ago.) Magician is the penultimate boss definitely in HOTD2, right, you fight him in the courtyard between the buildings and he zips all over the place leaving trails and then sweeps in for the kill at light speed?

After that when you get to the top of the building you fight that silver motherfucker in the orb who just shoots shit at you faster than you can take it out. I got to him once. Assuming he's the Emperor of which you speak.

Yep, now you've got it straight. The Emperor can be nasty, but for darned sure: he's *far* more difficult than Magician is.

Oh hell yes, he's nigh-on impossible (hence, no 1cc from me or anyone else in this thread.) Keep in mind I was always fighting Magician 2 player, so the ante was upped (faster and required more hits.) It's only when the girlfriend got killed off that I had a chance to take him down and move on.

[Ex_Mosquito]

I think the reason why magician is so tricky on hotd2 is mainly due to the firing cap speed, on hotd2 the firing rate is slower compared to the 'fire as fast as your finger allows' of the first game.

[Skykid]

I think the reason why magician is so tricky on hotd2 is mainly due to the firing cap speed, on hotd2 the firing rate is slower compared to the 'fire as fast as your finger allows' of the first game.

Yes!

It's much more about accuracy and measuring your clip. You can't start expending bullets when an attack is about to start, you have to make sure the first shot goes off the moment the window of vulnerability opens. It's very difficult to detect on those two last bosses - the Emperor more so. Just too fast to know which attack he's about to go into.

[BIL]

Magician is such a badass... and his theme song owns your motherfucking face!

"Why don't you follow my instructions?!" "NOBODY GIVES ME INSTRUCTIONS. I SHALL DESTROY EVERYTHING."

[Ruldra]

The reason I never got into LG games is because the constant mashing of the trigger is very exhausting and painful, almost carpal-tunnel inducing. Not fun to walk out of a session with an aching hand.

Last year I came across a Razing Storm cab and it was SO much more fun to play simply because of the automatic fire.

[CIT]

The reason I never got into LG games is because the constant mashing of the trigger is very exhausting and painful, almost carpal-tunnel inducing. Not fun to walk out of a session with an aching hand.

Why not try a game that has a more methodical approach, based on precision, such as the Virtua Cop series.

[saucykobold]

Final Fight
The Punisher
Daimakaimura
Metal Slug, X, 3
Double Dragon II
The New Zealand Story
TMNT
X-Men
Super Street Fighter II Turbo
Street Fighter: The Movie
Fatal Fury Special
KoF 96, 98

And some others here and there.

[BIL]

The reason I never got into LG games is because the constant mashing of the trigger is very exhausting and painful, almost carpal-tunnel inducing. Not fun to walk out of a session with an aching hand.

Why not try a game that has a more methodical approach, based on precision, such as the Virtua Cop series.

Good recommendation. It gets tense and addictive as hell trying to maintain a multiplier in VC1 & VC2 with perfectly-placed Justice Shots. After HOTD3 and OutRun 2, I wish Sega had ported VC3 from Chihiro arcade platform to the Xbox along with Ghost Squad.

[Mero]

I'm counting fighters, because I'm shit at them

This list is either accurate ports or MVS carts:

Strider
Daimakaimura [2-5] (probably don't count but whatever )
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Melty Blood Actress Again
Puzzle Bobble
Puzzle Bobble 2 (Puzzle Mode)
Neo Bomberman
Spin Master
Blue's Journey
Nightmare In The Dark
ZuPaPa!
Outrun 2/SP
Pocket Fighter

[Ed Oscuro]

Thread reminds me, I better get crackin' at Flame Gunner again. Ken-Go is probably hopeless but I enjoy it also - just not enough variety to warrant replaying it as much as would be necessary to scrap together a reasonable run.

[05pro]

Double Dragon
Double Dragon 2
Outrun
Shinobi
Puzzle Bobble
Kof'96
All SF2's + Alpha's
Dragon's Lair
Star Wars
Rush n Attack
Splatterhouse
Super Hang On
Strider

[Randorama]

Speaking of fighters, has anyone 1-CC'ed:

1. Turtles in time
2. Knights of the round
3. The Combatribes
4. The Super Spy (I know, I know, this is not really a fighter)
5. Tiger Road

I know that Tiger Road is not difficult, but rather "cheap", but the other 4 were beyond my skills, at the time.

Anyone?

Oh, and Teddy Boy Blues, too.

EDIT:

And what about Bonze's adventure and Psychic 5? I 1-CC'ed these ones only in adult age, via MAME.

[Acid King]

Speaking of fighters, has anyone 1-CC'ed:

1. Turtles in time
2. Knights of the round
3. The Combatribes
4. The Super Spy (I know, I know, this is not really a fighter)
5. Tiger Road

I know that Tiger Road is not difficult, but rather "cheap", but the other 4 were beyond my skills, at the time.

Anyone?

Oh, and Teddy Boy Blues, too.

EDIT:

And what about Bonze's adventure and Psychic 5? I 1-CC'ed these ones only in adult age, via MAME.

BBH cleared Super Spy. Here's the replay.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Speaking of fighters, go try to 1cc Ninja Master's (I couldn't even credit-feed through). Version with red blood of course.

[ACSeraph]

Speaking of fighters, go try to 1cc Ninja Master's (I couldn't even credit-feed through). Version with red blood of course.

I've 1cc-ed this before on my NGCD with Kasumi. It's actually not that bad for an old NG game. Also Kasumi be broken.

[Ganelon]

Ninja Master's is quite reasonable once you learn any of the easy-to-perform infinites in the game.

I've 1CCed some of the more common arcade sidescrollers (Strider Hiryu, Akumajo Dracula, Contra, Rush N Attack) and racers (OutRun, Virtua Racing, Daytona USA, Ridge Racer).

But my focus in arcade games has been in fighters, especially exploiting AI patterns. My usual goal is to 1CC fighters as fast as possible in real life time. I cleared The King of Fighters 96, 97, 2003, and XII on my first try; Street Fighter Alpha 3 on my first try (against Final Vega, not Ryu); GGXX Slash on my first try (after watching my friends lose to Order Sol over a dozen times and picking up on the patterns); Samurai Shodown II & V on my second try, and Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter on my second try. Also stuff like Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Street Fighter IV, and Final Fight Revenge on my first try but those are pretty much a joke. There are also some fighters—such as Super Street Fighter II Turbo and Mortal Kombat II—that I didn't complete quickly at first but now have strategies with a very high probability of 1CCing.

If someone is looking for a serious fighting game single player challenge, try Kaiser Knuckle. I still haven't gotten around to clearing it but am willing to pay $10 and an XBL code for someone who can and upload the footage.

[BIL]

Always loved this clip of Kaiser Knuckle's last boss (among others) massacring Japanese tournament players.

[Ruldra]

I cleared The King of Fighters 96 on my first try

How the FUCK did you manage that? Goenitz is one of the cheapest bosses in the KoF series. Unless you observed his patterns for a long time, I find it hard to believe you just went in blind and beat him like that.

[ACSeraph]

Samurai Shodown II & V on my second try,

Samsho II in two tries is very impressive to me. I have difficulty clearing it at all without a lot of continues and cursing. What's the secret to exploiting the AI?

I cleared The King of Fighters 96 on my first try

How the FUCK did you manage that? Goenitz is one of the cheapest bosses in the KoF series. Unless you observed his patterns for a long time, I find it hard to believe you just went in blind and beat him like that.

Goenitz is actually not that bad if you turtle against him. 94 and 95 are harder clears than 96 imo, though I'm not saying 96 is easy by any means.

The only fighter in my entire (really really massive) collection I can't beat is Art of Fighting 2. I beat it once years ago by repeatedly jumping backwards in the corner and kicking with the blonde military dude, but even that took me hundreds of credits. With other characters I can rarely get farther than stage 3 or 4 before getting pissed off. Anyone know the secret to exploiting that one?

[Randorama]

The only fighter in my entire (really really massive) collection I can't beat is Art of Fighting 2. I beat it once years ago by repeatedly jumping backwards in the corner and kicking with the blonde military dude, but even that took me hundreds of credits. With other characters I can rarely get farther than stage 3 or 4 before getting pissed off. Anyone know the secret to exploiting that one?

Yes, you need to know which move will always win, against each character and for each character you choose to play with. For instance, I do remember that Robert Garcia's tecnique against 2-3 characters (I can't recall which ones) is simply land a fireball as soon as the round starts, re-fill psy/mana power, land another fire ball, repeat. Even the ultra-cheap secret boss can be easily taken down, with the right moves. Without those, the game is more or less impossible.

[ACSeraph]

The only fighter in my entire (really really massive) collection I can't beat is Art of Fighting 2. I beat it once years ago by repeatedly jumping backwards in the corner and kicking with the blonde military dude, but even that took me hundreds of credits. With other characters I can rarely get farther than stage 3 or 4 before getting pissed off. Anyone know the secret to exploiting that one?

Yes, you need to know which move will always win, against each character and for each character you choose to play with. For instance, I do remember that Robert Garcia's tecnique against 2-3 characters (I can't recall which ones) is simply land a fireball as soon as the round starts, re-fill psy/mana power, land another fire ball, repeat. Even the ultra-cheap secret boss can be easily taken down, with the right moves. Without those, the game is more or less impossible.

It almost sounds like you have to treat every character as a distinct final boss caliber fight and find the proper exploit. I really wish when SNK re-released that game they would have fixed the AI, because I'd really like to play it, but its almost unplayable as is. When MK seems fair in comparison you know something is wrong.

[Ganelon]

Always loved this clip of Kaiser Knuckle's last boss (among others) massacring Japanese tournament players.

Yeah, I wish they had more of those. Let me remind folks though that for fighting games, human competition and AI competition are usually very different. Playing the AI won't teach you strategy to beat humans, and vice versa. I remember consistently 1CCing Super Street Fighter II Turbo in 2006 and wondering if I was ready to win tourneys since the AI was considered to be so difficult. Short answer: no.

That said, from what I've seen and heard, competitive fighting game players in Japan are adept at their own games' single-player modes. I saw numerous KOF98 players do well against other people and then style on Omega Rugal and the rest of the AI when there were no more human competitors.

I cleared The King of Fighters 96 on my first try

How the FUCK did you manage that? Goenitz is one of the cheapest bosses in the KoF series. Unless you observed his patterns for a long time, I find it hard to believe you just went in blind and beat him like that.

I had heard that Goenitz played annoying keepaway but that didn't affect my gameplan when I first played him. I just kept spamming j.HK, c.HK and was surprised that he almost never blocked the sweep nor used his anti-air. Nowadays, if my point character has long, fast sweeps (e.g. Benimaru, Leona), I can usually win with just 1 character by j.HK, c.HK with the proper timing. It's not that strict either; just make sure you j.HK meaty on Goenitz's wakeup, follow up with a quick c.HK, and be prepared to c.HK again if he blocks and teleports underneath. Goenitz's AI is extra helpless against this tactic once you push him into the corner.

Samsho II in two tries is very impressive to me. I have difficulty clearing it at all without a lot of continues and cursing. What's the secret to exploiting the AI?

The regular AI characters have always seemed simple to me. Poke from a distance and punish. For the later opponents especially, play it safe and lame the AI out with low slashes instead of trying to jump in.

Against Mizuki, j.SS, s.SS from a distance was always my go-to combination for characters with long weapons and a downward air slash (e.g. Haohmaru, Genjuro). She rarely anti-airs and counters it. Just jump in again when you have space and make sure you connect with the jump attack (or else chances are high you'll be grabbed). After becoming familiar with reversed controls (also useful against Nicotine) and always holding down-back to block (in case she tries the ground trap) with an occasional low/standing/neutral jump MS/SS to create space, you can get in the right position to set up the jump. If Mizuki teleports, guess the direction and jump slash it. There's a bit more randomness to the match depending on if she blocks but as long as you maintain caution and don't stick out attacks without knowing they'll connect—hit or blocked—Mizuki is pretty modest in difficulty.

As for Ryuko no Ken 2, I agree with Randorama. There's no one-size-fits-all AI strategy that I'm aware of. It involves comprehensive player and enemy specific matchup techniques to abuse. I normally use Ryo and depending on the opponent, the ideal strategy could be nonstop jump back HK all day, repeated s.HK, c.HK at a distance and c.HP for anti-airs, jump forward HK and then c.HK, etc. Time over wins are pretty common this way. Jumping back HK repeatedly is my opening strategy with Ryo against Geese. When he starts charging meter, I follow up with a haohshokoken (for damage and so that the AI keeps the same pattern) and then a few more jump back HKs. Or if you were referring to Mr. Big, I continuously jump forward LK and then c.LK until Mr. Big uses up his meter, at which point I spam neutral jump HK for the win (if Big has meter, then he'll hit you out of it). When executed correctly, both of these strategies work every time for Ryo without any major randomness.

That may be easier said than done though. I remember playing hundreds of credits (emulated) before clearing Ryuko 2 so I'm not sure if it's the tactics or muscle memory that's more important to beating the AI.

[GaijinPunch]

All the ones I listed in this thread years ago. Most people put their non-shmup games on there.

[zeroroute]

MBAACC
CvS1
Soulcalibur 2
AOF1
Fatal Fury 2
SF Alpha 3

There's others but I don't wanna type all day

[Smraedis]

You guys that cleared the Time Crisis games... that is an achievement. I saw a video on Youtube of a Time Crisis 4 1CC a while ago and I think it was from someone here on this forum.

Has anyone tried Time Crisis Razing Storm?

That was prolly me I didn't like TC4 at first, but after learning the scoring, it became more fun.
Yeah I like Razing Storm, but I find it way too easy, 1CC'ed on my 4th attempt. Scoring is quite hard however.

If you don't have a good pedal, I don't care *how* good a player you are: you're screwed.

I have to disagree with this, unless if the pedal doesn't come back up.
The problem usually is that the pedal isn't stuck to the ground, so you have to lift your foot high as quick as possible to not get hit. However I use my other foot to hold the pedal down at its lowest part, just so a little tap with the main foot will make it press.

I couldn't get along with HOTD2 myself, it seemed a bit unfair and ended credits quick, so I just played TC2 instead.