Shmups is a more popular term now than I thought.

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So, it appears shmups is more prevalent in the 2-D shooter vernacular than I realized. I never seen the term actually used on a game before, however, like on the back of this Death Smiles case. I find that rather cool. Veterans on this site, may have seen the term shmups used before in a game, but for those who haven't, here is the link to the back of the case: http://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/d ... Id,191147/

Also this really sparks my curiousity on how the term shmup came to be. Does anyone know it's origins or anymore about it?
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Fervent Fovea wrote;
Also this really sparks my curiousity on how the term shmup came to be. Does anyone know it's origins or anymore about it?
I think the term shmup was coined by a UK video games magazine at the end of the 80s. I've never liked the term much and always use shoot'em up, 2D shoot'em up or even 2D shooter.
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I only use it as a handy abbreviation in writing, but I never pronounce it like that as it sounds ridiculous to me. First time I heard someone actually pronounce the word as "shmup" I was disgusted and I still am.
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Fervent Fovea wrote: I never seen the term actually used on a game before, however, like on the back of this Death Smiles case.
They also use the term 'lolis' :lol:

Fervent Fovea wrote:Also this really sparks my curiousity on how the term shmup came to be. Does anyone know it's origins or anymore about it?
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rCadeGaming wrote:Where did the term shmup come from?
If memory serves the first recorded use was in a bygone UK magazine, Zzap!64. Not sure how the writer came up with it, but that's the generally-accepted point of origin for the shorthand term.
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Fervent Fovea wrote:So, it appears shmups is more prevalent in the 2-D shooter vernacular than I realized. I never seen the term actually used on a game before, however, like on the back of this Death Smiles case. I find that rather cool. Veterans on this site, may have seen the term shmups used before in a game, but for those who haven't, here is the link to the back of the case: http://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/d ... Id,191147/

Also this really sparks my curiousity on how the term shmup came to be. Does anyone know it's origins or anymore about it?
supposedly here Zzap!64 issue 3 july 1985.
http://www.oldgames.sk/en/mag/zzap64-3/page/19/

it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
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SuperSoaker360 wrote:They also use the term 'lolis' :lol:
This surprised me way more.

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malchitos wrote:it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
It says "GP" on his shirt ahahahaahhah
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That Zzap64 link takes me back :roll:
Julian Rignall also in the bottom left.
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DEL wrote:That Zzap64 link takes me back :roll:
Julian Rignall also in the bottom left.
supposedly from what I read...it was the first game review magazine to use cartoon pictures of it's reviewers to express how they felt about the game. In the states I don't believe we ever got this magazine though later I use to see imported issues in our few amiga stores here.
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malchitos wrote:
Fervent Fovea wrote:So, it appears shmups is more prevalent in the 2-D shooter vernacular than I realized. I never seen the term actually used on a game before, however, like on the back of this Death Smiles case. I find that rather cool. Veterans on this site, may have seen the term shmups used before in a game, but for those who haven't, here is the link to the back of the case: http://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox360/d ... Id,191147/

Also this really sparks my curiousity on how the term shmup came to be. Does anyone know it's origins or anymore about it?
supposedly here Zzap!64 issue 3 july 1985.
http://www.oldgames.sk/en/mag/zzap64-3/page/19/

it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
Hah, nice. I knew the origins were in Zzap!64, but I didn't know the actual issue not to mention the very page. Cool to see it after all this time.

So if that page gave us the term that's still being used today, why didn't the other term used by this Julian Rignall person catch on? I hereby declare anybody playing shmups to not be known as a "shmupper" or variation of that, but a "megablaster"!
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malchitos wrote: supposedly here Zzap!64 issue 3 july 1985.
http://www.oldgames.sk/en/mag/zzap64-3/page/19/

it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
Nice find Malchitos.

Have you noted that this very first shmup actually has a "brilliant inertial effect" ?!
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guigui wrote:
malchitos wrote: supposedly here Zzap!64 issue 3 july 1985.
http://www.oldgames.sk/en/mag/zzap64-3/page/19/

it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
Nice find Malchitos.

Have you noted that this very first shmup actually has a "brilliant inertial effect" ?!
As I read the article I was thinking..."Oh they are gonna love that bit.."

then again it was a Euroshmup.
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shmuppyLove wrote:
malchitos wrote:it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
It says "GP" on his shirt ahahahaahhah
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antime wrote:
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malchitos wrote:it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
It says "GP" on his shirt ahahahaahhah
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Who shot JR?
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Ed Oscuro wrote:Who shot JR?

wasn't it Kristin? :D

....or was it Maggie?
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malchitos wrote: supposedly here Zzap!64 issue 3 july 1985.
http://www.oldgames.sk/en/mag/zzap64-3/page/19/

it's in the upper caption area with the dude giving the thumbs up.
I've still got that issue!
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malchitos wrote:then again it was a Euroshmup.
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Herr Schatten wrote:
malchitos wrote:then again it was a Euroshmup.
Don't discredit Dropzone. It's actually quite awesome.
oh I don't...it's more of a good defender clone if I remember correctly....so the ever forum hated inertia would have worked for it.
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The news page for q-games used "shmup" for PixelJunk Sidescroller.
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That Zzap page is interesting, but I don't know if I believe that he just pulls a new phrase out of the hat like that without explaining it. That could point to the term already being in some currency before we see it there, but maybe it doesn't.

Megablaster is a term I already like because of Bomb the Bass ("it's a megablast!") and the fun (but quirky and a bit unadventurous) Taito shooter of the same name.
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I only use the term "STG" because I am cool.
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RoninBuddha wrote:I only use the term "STG" because I am cool.
Also it sounds less dumb. :lol:
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"shmup" does sound silly to me, just the sound of the word itself. I struggle over whether to use it or "STG" in my translations... STG is kind of unwieldly in a lot of circumstances though. There's a small touch of pretension to it as well, just in the whole "this is how the JAPANESE say it, nyah nyah."
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STG is for the spoken word.
Shmup is best for google.
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Use the word EuroSTG and all pretension in the world will be remedied.
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Herr Schatten wrote;
Don't discredit Dropzone. It's actually quite awesome.
Yes it is.

As for the STG term, I thought it was too general. Doesn't it signify 'any' shooter in Japan? Be it FPS, rail, 2D....

From a quick look, it seems that Julian Rignall has stayed in video games magazines. Appointed vice president of content at GamePro Media in 2011.
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Now all we have to do is make CAVE a household name before they go out of business/axe their arcade division for good .. oops, too late :3
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Hmm.
Shoot Em Up
SHEMUP! Or what about SHEMP? ;)

Anyway, like many others here I think "shmup" sounds dumb and I never use it in coversation.
Why is it shoot 'em UP anyway? You don't say "shooting up stuff" (unless it's heroin). You blow up stuff. You shoot enemies.
I usually call them 2D shooting games or 2d shooters. That leaves little room for misunderstandings.
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spaceship or airplane shooting games

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