Hori Ore Commander - shmup peripheral?

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:43 am

Listed at Hori's website... some kind of rapid-fire thumb vibrator peripheral for arcade shmup players?

Vexorg · Post by **Vexorg** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:00 am

It looks more like a device to warn Korean guys when they're about to croak after playing World of Warcraft for 72 hours straight...

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:19 am

Yes, this device can be used in acrade which auto fire is not enabled.

That just some kinds of joke Hori staffs have put on their site, there is actually some more photos of these kinds of funny devices at Hori site.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:43 pm

So what are the cylinder pumps protruding from the device? So when you squeeze your fingers together, the thing vibrates?

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:10 pm

Ganelon wrote:So what are the cylinder pumps protruding from the device? So when you squeeze your fingers together, the thing vibrates?

I thought it moves your fingers for you...

Website says something about "cybernetic organism"... and also contains photos of a food-eating (?) attachment

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:16 pm

Thunder Force wrote: I thought it moves your fingers for you...

It does since the vibration generates button presses, but notice the knobs coming out of the finger attachment? Is it supposed to vibrate your other fingers or does it activate when you squeeze your thumb and middle finger against the knobs?

Samudra · Post by **Samudra** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:35 pm

Vexorg wrote:It looks more like a device to warn Korean guys when they're about to croak after playing World of Warcraft for 72 hours straight...

haha.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:42 pm

LOL imagine how bloody your finger would get when its set to 30hz rapid fire!

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:54 am

The words "Ore Commander" immediately made me think of an RTS gaming device.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:21 pm

The Hori Periborg was just released, exclusive to Horistore.com (price is around $20)

Ganelon wrote:
Thunder Force wrote: I thought it moves your fingers for you...
It does since the vibration generates button presses, but notice the knobs coming out of the finger attachment? Is it supposed to vibrate your other fingers or does it activate when you squeeze your thumb and middle finger against the knobs?

Apparently it activates when the finger is bent. The "knobs" you see coming out the side are just holding straps.

I think only the console player would be using this device. Most arcade player would be too embarassed to use it in public.

Dave_K. wrote:LOL imagine how bloody your finger would get when its set to 30hz rapid fire!

HA! There was actually a guy (Takahashi?) sponsored by Hudson in the late '80s that could tap a button 25+ times per second.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:58 pm

Wow, do you know how he did that? I'm guessing if I practiced enough and was pressing an ultra-sensitive button, I could do that by resting my finger on the button and tensing my arm to convulse as quickly as possible...

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:05 am

Ganelon wrote:Wow, do you know how he did that? I'm guessing if I practiced enough and was pressing an ultra-sensitive button, I could do that by resting my finger on the button and tensing my arm to convulse as quickly as possible...

Actually there is a trick to mesh the button quicker.

Since mircroswithch would registered an ON singal when the button is pressed all the way down. In order to mesh the button quicker, you could stard pressing the button again when it is half way released.

How quick you could keep pressing a button also depends on the button being pressed, but that usually out of your control when you are in the arcade.

When you are at home, you would just use a auto fire circuit...

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:49 am

25 times in a second......... 1 finger or multiple , I could maybe do it if i used all 10.

No way is that possible, how then hell can a neuromuscular junction process signals that fast, the connecting ligaments aren't exactly superfast myosin like the connective tissue in the jaws of a shark.....
He must have been some sort of shmup jesus

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:05 pm

Ganelon wrote:Wow, do you know how he did that? I'm guessing if I practiced enough and was pressing an ultra-sensitive button, I could do that by resting my finger on the button and tensing my arm to convulse as quickly as possible...

I used to have a video showing the superhuman feat, but it's lost now. In the vid, he was using a Famicom style controller with an LCD screen to show the average button presses per second. I think it must have been some kind of game to test the reflexes. He had it laying on a table a tapped for about 5 secdnds to give the average of 25+s/s. He used one finger only, either pointer or middle...can't recall exactly. Everything else was a blur. It was hard to tell what was his method. Maybe this video is online somewhere now?

This Takahashi was famous because his button pressing was faster than possible with machine (the standard 555 autofire circuit ,the newer autofire chip/circuit can do 30.s/s--hz). Hudson even named a game after him (think 'Master Higgins', but Japanese version). Also, the Hudson Honeybee controller for Famicom; suposedly the first to use autofire for console, was promoted by Takahashi.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:14 am

Neat, thanks. If anybody knows what game this is that provides button tapping speed, that'd be very interesting.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:33 am

Yeah, wish I could tell you the name of the 'game'. I mean it looks like a standard red and gold Famicom controller. The give-aways are that it has no cord and a small LCD display above the buttons.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:16 am

Ganelon wrote:Neat, thanks. If anybody knows what game this is that provides button tapping speed, that'd be very interesting.

What I could recall is...

1) It was a Famicom cart game
2) It was made by Huson
3) You need a code to access these features.

It might be "Bomber King" or "??? Castle"...

Sorry can't remember exactly.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:47 am

http://www.gradius2.com/image/orecommander.avi

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:02 pm

Yeowch, that thing looks like a recipe for joint problems.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:44 pm

oxtsu wrote:Yeah, wish I could tell you the name of the 'game'. I mean it looks like a standard red and gold Famicom controller. The give-aways are that it has no cord and a small LCD display above the buttons.

I recall that Bandai sold such wireless NES controller in the USA under Mega Controller name (I think) in the late 1987-1988 that had a cool built-in LCD screen -- this particular NES controller was even programmable IIRC.

Another strange NES joystick I've seen that was extremely well built was the "Advance Gravis NES Joystick" that had built-in adjustable tension from loose to very firm and even had built-in auto-fire + slow motion capabilities. It had got the prestigious Nintendo seal of approval for approved 3rd-party controller accessories for the NES back in the day. It retailed for $39.99 USD when it first came out.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~