Is a 1CC worthless if you're not going for score?

[KAI]

I feel like crap when I score high without clearing the game.
Score + 1CC or GTFO.

[CloudyMusic]

I'd much rather be able to run a five-minute mile than achieve any video game accomplishment

I never said otherwise. It was an analogy about how continuously working in the pursuit of a set goal can be enjoyable and rewarding in many aspects of life, even though the goal itself may be completely arbitrary. Going for a high score in a shooting game is just a single example of that.

Other examples could be as impressive as climbing a mountain, or as stupid as breaking the record for how many billiard balls you can fit in your mouth. Where video games fall on that spectrum is up to you.

[MrOldSchoolCool]

I'd much rather be able to run a five-minute mile than achieve any video game accomplishment

I never said otherwise. It was an analogy about how continuously working in the pursuit of a set goal can be enjoyable and rewarding in many aspects of life, even though the goal itself may be completely arbitrary. Going for a high score in a shooting game is just a single example of that.

Other examples could be as impressive as climbing a mountain, or as stupid as breaking the record for how many billiard balls you can fit in your mouth. Where video games fall on that spectrum is up to you.

Yeah, no, I follow you. I was just commenting on how the spectrum can really vary as you mentioned.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

What does running have to do with anything. Running is for health. Shooting games are for fun. If you have as much fun running as you do playing shooting games then you're the luckiest man alive because most people hate the shit out of it.

[MrOldSchoolCool]

What does running have to do with anything. Running is for health. Shooting games are for fun. If you have as much fun running as you do playing shooting games then you're the luckiest man alive because most people hate the shit out of it.

Some people have fun doing things that actually benefit you.

Ahhh, saying that is going to lead to an argument isn't it.

[Vamos]

What does running have to do with anything. Running is for health. Shooting games are for fun. If you have as much fun running as you do playing shooting games then you're the luckiest man alive because most people hate the shit out of it.

Some people have fun doing things that actually benefit you.

Ahhh, saying that is going to lead to an argument isn't it.

For what its worth i agree with you fully but unless you are talking with people who are avid and progressive fitness fans they simply will not grasp how such a thing could be fun.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

What does running have to do with anything. Running is for health. Shooting games are for fun. If you have as much fun running as you do playing shooting games then you're the luckiest man alive because most people hate the shit out of it.

Some people have fun doing things that actually benefit you.

Ahhh, saying that is going to lead to an argument isn't it.

Probably, because you barbed it like a douche bag when clearly I meant people didn't like it because it's a pain in the ass and not because it's beneficial to your health.


Progressive fitness wtf, don't flatter yourself. I jog, I just don't like it.

[MrOldSchoolCool]

What does running have to do with anything. Running is for health. Shooting games are for fun. If you have as much fun running as you do playing shooting games then you're the luckiest man alive because most people hate the shit out of it.

Some people have fun doing things that actually benefit you.

Ahhh, saying that is going to lead to an argument isn't it.

Probably, because you barbed it like a douche bag when clearly I meant people didn't like it because it's a pain in the ass and not because it's beneficial to your health.


Progressive fitness wtf, don't flatter yourself. I jog, I just don't like it.

You're taking this personally when Vamos and I have both been talking in general terms. Please don't use mean names. We aren't attacking you. I apologize for anything that came across as such.

[Special World]

I look forward to the day when I can 1CC all the games I love. Playing for score probably hinders my 1CCs, but it's just such a great milestone marker.

[TLB]

You're all offensive elitists.

Just look at your stance on credit-feeding. Who are you to call anyone out for being slightly more offensively elitist than you? You sit here on your high horse telling people not to credit feed, calling journalists scum because they're not as elitist as you when all they do is use the continues provided in the games as a means of completing them.

You try to dictate how the games should be played, but when some guy who isn't just a casual elitist hipster pretender shows up and offers his opinion you guys just crucify him for showing you the mirror. I'm pretty sure that when people complain about elitists from shmups.com, they're talking about you guys and your bloodlust for anyone who credit feeds.

I have consistently maintained that credit-feeding is fun and useful for familiarizing oneself with the game in later stages. If the games are so fun, it shouldn't matter how many credits you've used. If you keep playing, you'll eventually be good enough to clear on one credit.

[O. Van Bruce]

No prob with credit feeding. The problem is when you stay in that hole and calls the game "easy to complete" for giving you infinite continues. That's why most people here ask for limited ccontinues or at least consumable continues in most STGs.

Also, this...

I CAN'T believe that people are really offended by gus or his essay.
Skykid, I think that gus really hit you in the weak spot.
Remember: It's his life and lifestyle, it isn't any worse or better than yours.

It's fine if it's his lifestyle.
It's not fine if he slates other people for not following it.

And Cagar, I'm very sure he will regret later on going full shmup in his youth. He will eventually have to take care of himself and all the time he could have spent in preparing for it or at least doing something he won't be able to when he's old will make him regret it.

All for some numbers on a screen.

Don't get me wrong, I do like scoring and I like people who score, but not to a degree in which it may harm me.

[hail good sir]

would

[TLB]

You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say

[hail good sir]

I

[TrevHead (TVR)]

My stance: Play however you want as long as it's towards a goal*

Unlimited continues in a game without credits needs to die or atleast be relegated to a cheat code. There needs to be atleast goal posts on the playing field for it to be considered a game imo.

[O. Van Bruce]

My stance: Play however you want as long as it's towards a goal*

Unlimited continues in a game without credits needs to die or atleast be relegated to a cheat code. There needs to be atleast goal posts on the playing field for it to be considered a game imo.

welp... there are achievements on the 360... that's something at least.

[Vamos]

What does running have to do with anything. Running is for health. Shooting games are for fun. If you have as much fun running as you do playing shooting games then you're the luckiest man alive because most people hate the shit out of it.

Some people have fun doing things that actually benefit you.

Ahhh, saying that is going to lead to an argument isn't it.

Probably, because you barbed it like a douche bag when clearly I meant people didn't like it because it's a pain in the ass and not because it's beneficial to your health.


Progressive fitness wtf, don't flatter yourself. I jog, I just don't like it.

Increasing your ability is progressive no? Thats what i ment, for example im a roadie and in the last year have got my resting heart rate down to around 44 and focused on my hill climbing ability.Witnessing the growth first hand to me is a lot of fun and feels great.Im sorry you don't enjoy jogging but plenty of people do and not solely for the health benefits.

[hail good sir]

question

[trap15]

You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say

METALLICA RUUUUuuuUuuUUUUUUULES

[Kollision]

we just don't understand

[CptRansom]

You can do it your own way
If it's done just how I say

METALLICA RUUUUuuuUuuUUUUUUULES

m3tall1ca

Credit feeding is fucking awesome because it allows you to play the whole game (minus TLBs usually) so that even if you're dying every thirty seconds to brutal patterns, you can at least start to remember enemy entry points and whatnot.

My only problem with credit feeding isn't the actual feeding of credits, but...

The problem is when you stay in that hole and calls the game "easy to complete" for giving you infinite continues.

That. But even then, if people want to call the games easy to complete because of that, I don't mind. They can enjoy the game that way if it makes them happy (and it doesn't, because they're always bitching about "beating" the game in 30 minutes). Saying these games are easy when you credit feed simply lets me know that you're the type of gamer I'm probably not going to get along with, and all of your opinions on everything game-related are forever void and retarded henceforth.

Or, you know... those people are just ill-informed. Unless they've already been informed on how to get more enjoyment/replay value as well as not sucking, and they continue to do so anyway. Then fuck them.

I just woke up sorry for rambling oh god where is my coffee

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

Next person to credit feed, enjoy jogging, check their heart rate or be proud of their stage 2 game over high score gets a phone call from Les Grossman.

[Kollision]

Next person to credit feed, enjoy jogging, check their heart rate or be proud of their stage 2 game over high score gets a phone call from Les Grossman.

I lol'ed hard now.

What about Les's own movie? Not going to happen, heh?

[ratikal]

Credit feeding is only annoying when your waiting to play a game and the fucker playing it is only pressing the start and bomb button over and over. There were a ton of these guys at MAGfest, but I guess they didn't really know any better.

But man, if you are playing in a public place, check and see if anyone is waiting to play the game before you put in that other credit.

[Kollision]

Pure credit feeders (meaning the worst type, not those who CF to practice) should be condemned to credit feed R-Type forever.

[O. Van Bruce]

Pure credit feeders (meaning the worst type, not those who CF to practice) should be condemned to credit feed R-Type forever.

Oh the horror... I allways hate restarting from a checkpoint or the beginning of a stage... with no power ups

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Pure credit feeders (meaning the worst type, not those who CF to practice) should be condemned to credit feed R-Type forever.

Or Mushi Ultra last boss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3SmqBxc_0 I was originally looking to post a Let's Play where the creditfeeder bombed TLB for over 30mins while moaning into to microphone (Elixer / Vespane should know of it as he was the one who posted it in the forum years ago)

Or the arcade versions of any Gradius. The PSP collection arrived through my letterbox yesterday, and I tried creditfeeding those suckers just to experience some of the game, totally futile experience as those arcade versions are much harder than the Nintendo ports. The fact the PSP d-pad and analog are crap made it x100 harder.

I was looking forward to beating them over a long period of time, but now I'm not too sure, I might just stick to the emulated ports of the console versions. Since you are very experienced with the series what do you suggest? Go emulation on my PC where I might get side tracked onto another game, or crack on with the PSP collection get used to the d-pad, possibly using a small hitbox and easy difficulty & autofire to make up fire in inaccurate controls? I've beaten Gradius NES but I couldn't play for shit on the PSP version. I do suppose I could load up CFW and emulate the console versions.

How did others get along with mastering that lame PSP D-pad?

My stance: Play however you want as long as it's towards a goal*

Unlimited continues in a game without credits needs to die or atleast be relegated to a cheat code. There needs to be atleast goal posts on the playing field for it to be considered a game imo.

welp... there are achievements on the 360... that's something at least.

Ah I forget about them, who needs such paltry things as 1CCs 2ALLs and WRs when you can boast you've got 1000 points and an achievement completion to all your 360 chums who don't know what a 1CC is. That's REAL respect

[Jeneki]

Wouldn't credit feeding R-Type be the good kind? Replaying a section over and over until you master it seems like an effective way to improve.

[Mortificator]

Yeah, additional credits only make games with instant respawn easier. In checkpoint games, a section is tougher if you died and were sent back than if you still had your power-ups. That's why Gradius V immediately turns off its credit limit if you switch from instant respawn to checkpoints.

[Jeneki]

Or Mushi Ultra last boss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3SmqBxc_0 I was originally looking to post a Let's Play where the creditfeeder bombed TLB for over 30mins while moaning into to microphone (Elixer / Vespane should know of it as he was the one who posted it in the forum years ago)

I'm not sure what it is about Ultra mode that attracts newbies, maybe it's the spectacle?

There's nothing better than going to a game room, and playing something next to the guy credit feeding Mushi Ultra. It's like listening to an hour long orgasm, "AAAAAAAaaaaahhhhhh..." over and over and over.