Crimzon Clover ...is it still highly likely for steam?

[shaowebb]

I was checking through the Nyu Media forum and checked through their game request section. I saw someone had asked them about Crimzon Clover and if they considered bringing it over and their response made my jaw drop...

Crimzon Clover was actually one of the first titles we looked as a second slate candidate, but unfortunately it’s already in the works with another publisher (sad face.)

will that come to steam you think?

I really want it.

I don’t know any details of who the publisher is or what they have planned, but I would put the chance of Steam placement at ‘highly likely’.

That is all their ever was to this conversation. The last post was February 1st 2012.
http://nyu-media.com/forum/community-gr ... -thread12/

So does anyone have any clue who or what they were referring to? Maybe Rockin' Android had beaten them to it? Someone else maybe? I dunno...since I don't track this sort of thing often. Has anyone heard more on this since then and as to who it is who is working on Crimzon Clover coming over here?

[rancor]

The publisher is Taito for their NESICA system. I played it last month at the AMA show and it kicks ass. Comes out in the next few weeks in arcades over here.

[AntiFritz]

You didn't get any pictures at all did you? Interested to see if its a straight port or more of a remake.

[rancor]

It's 95% straight port. No - didn't get any pics as security was ridiculous. I went over it a bit here:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=44593

[AntiFritz]

Oh, thanks for that. Wonder if we'll get a xbla port or something in the future...

[exquisite_torture]

Oh, thanks for that. Wonder if we'll get a xbla port or something in the future...

Hope so, surely the Nesica hook up makes it more likely. Wasn't Strania a Nesica game?

[nZero]

Oh, thanks for that. Wonder if we'll get a xbla port or something in the future...

Hope so, surely the Nesica hook up makes it more likely. Wasn't Strania a Nesica game?

Yes, but the arcade version of Strania came out after the XBLA version.

[exquisite_torture]

Ah. This is why I post so infrequently.

[Aisha]

Why hold out for Steam? Just buy the PC version.

I was having a conversation about this very subject earlier. According to this post, Crimzon Clover was already being worked on by another localizer by the time Nyu Media had inquired. But that post was made back in December of 2011 (and Nyu Media probably inquired way before that), so you'd think that if a localizer had the game, we'd know by now. Then of course, the Nesica x Live version was announced a few months later, so all of the talk about there being another localizer in the picture could have just been one big misunderstanding. Although, I don't really see why the Nesica x Live version should preclude an overseas release of the original PC version...

Personally, I'm praying for a PC port of the Nesica x Live version, or at least a patch to bring the PC version up to par, but it's probably not going to happen for a while, if ever.

Anyway, now that the Nesica x Live version is more or less finished, we can look forward to Garukilla.

[shaowebb]

I was ready to pull the trigger on the PC disc from tokyoshmups.com after finally checking out the demo, but I read that and was curious if it was on its way. If it was I might have gotten it cheaper holding out for Steam is all.

Thanks for all the info on this BTW. The Nesica thing sounds cool and here's hoping that really does result in an XBLA or other kind of optimized port sometime because apparently that version gets a 3rd ship and some graphical work done to it. Still I doubt I'll cry over owning the PC version from tokyoshmups with no clear idea of when that may hit if ever. This game is really good.

[Observer]

If the game is coming to Steam it might be spotted in the registry way earlier than it should so we are covered there. At least NeoGAF doesn't miss this kind of thing, they are glued to the bloody registry.

It could well-be Yotsubane is taking his sweet time. Don't forget most doujin devs are really busy or have day jobs to deal with so I wouldn't be surprised if delays occur.

But I'm not giving up on CC. If no news pop up through the year, I'll see to inquiry myself when I got to Winter Comiket. Because, yes, I'm freaking going this year.

Holding back on this awesome game is painful, just go get it at Tokyoshmups, man! I have it, best fucking $18 I ever spent (got it during a Comiket before the yen/usd parity went to hell).

[bsidwell]

The Nesica thing sounds cool and here's hoping that really does result in an XBLA or other kind of optimized port sometime because apparently that version gets a 3rd ship and some graphical work done to it.

Er, the PC version already had 3 ships.

[MathU]

I never understand this fixation on wanting games to come specifically to Steam. Do you like your games bogged down with DRM? Is that it? Not that Steam releases have to use their DRM system... But wanting them to come specifically to it is basically asking to take a chance.

All you're doing by "hoping for a Steam release" is hoping for the title to go through an extra layer of publishing and for the developers themselves to get less of your money in the end, along with raising one's chances for DRM. Do you just take pleasure in loyally throwing your money at Valve for no particular reason--hoping that they can somehow profit from every one of your game purchases? Even if a game isn't sold over Steam, Steam usually does a decent job of cataloging games so you can still launch them with it, so it's not like wanting games to come to Steam for game recognition is a valid reason either.

Seriously, I don't get it.

[Squire Grooktook]

I don't think anybody is asking for Steam exclusivity. It just seems to be the go to for a lot of small devs.

I don't really mind the DRM. I know DRM = Evil incarnate, but I've never had any issues with it yet (perhaps someday). There's always other places besides Steam, like Desura and whatnot.

[bsidwell]

i don't acknowledge the existence of games that aren't on steam.

[Aisha]

The Nesica thing sounds cool and here's hoping that really does result in an XBLA or other kind of optimized port sometime because apparently that version gets a 3rd ship and some graphical work done to it.

Er, the PC version already had 3 ships.

One of them, I'm guessing Type-Z, was replaced with a brand new ship.

Also, Simple Mode has apparently been replaced by something called Boost Mode. There is also another new mode called Time Attack, which sounds like a caravan-type thing. I'm sure we'll get a more detailed list of changes and additions in a few weeks.

[shaowebb]

I never understand this fixation on wanting games to come specifically to Steam. Do you like your games bogged down with DRM? Is that it? Not that Steam releases have to use their DRM system... But wanting them to come specifically to it is basically asking to take a chance.

All you're doing by "hoping for a Steam release" is hoping for the title to go through an extra layer of publishing and for the developers themselves to get less of your money in the end, along with raising one's chances for DRM. Do you just take pleasure in loyally throwing your money at Valve for no particular reason--hoping that they can somehow profit from every one of your game purchases? Even if a game isn't sold over Steam, Steam usually does a decent job of cataloging games so you can still launch them with it, so it's not like wanting games to come to Steam for game recognition is a valid reason either.

Seriously, I don't get it.

I travel and have multiple PC systems I use. I can install it on any system I ever touch without the physical copy, I get a community forum for it, and I can screenshot and share. Plus I never have to worry about a disc getting damaged this way. Sorry, but you can't lecture me out of enjoying steam. I "throw my money at Valve" for VERY particular reasons. Im thrifty in this economy, Im social, and I enjoy guaranteed access on the go.

Its not like its something I wont import at its current price, but if holding off is cool because its rumored or hinted soon and I missed that then I'd hold off to gain all the things I said.

[MathU]

I can install it on any system I ever touch without the physical copy, I get a community forum for it, and I can screenshot and share.

You can do all of these things without the game being sold through Steam. Why not hope for a digital distributor which guarantees it won't be locked to some DRM platform instead?

[TrevHead (TVR)]

With Nyu Media and Rockin Android stuck on greenlight I'd be surprised for any doujin to get on Steam.

Which makes me wonder why Valve went to Bitsummit (the first big conference for Japanese Indies) either they are changing their MO again or were just trolling.

Oh, thanks for that. Wonder if we'll get a xbla port or something in the future...

Hope so, surely the Nesica hook up makes it more likely. Wasn't Strania a Nesica game?

Dunno about Strania but I know the doujin shmup Trouble Witches got an arcade port as TW Neo! which was later ported again to XBLA, maybe you are confusing the 2?

[CStarFlare]

The arcade version of Trouble Witches is Trouble Witches AC, which isn't quite the same as Neo.

I do hope the Nesica release does well, CC deserves all the success in the world. Might lead to an XBLA release as well!

[shaowebb]

I can install it on any system I ever touch without the physical copy, I get a community forum for it, and I can screenshot and share.

You can do all of these things without the game being sold through Steam. Why not hope for a digital distributor which guarantees it won't be locked to some DRM platform instead?

Because I like steam and all my stuff is networked onto it already on my gameslist? Seriously dont turn this into a crusade for whatever you're against. I use Steam and think all the front page ad time that Steam offers titles like this would be good for it. I don't exactly see XBLA doing much by stuff like this in terms of giving titles like this face time to put the product in front of people. I cant even remember how long Jamestown stayed on front page plus all the times it popped back up to draw more folks to it with deals after it had sat idling on the store later, but it was lightyears better than the amount of free advertising microsoft did. Plus even if it was to go to other distributors via PC and not console like my example, Steam has the biggest PC market share. More shoppers = more players.

Plus you know...the quote I dug up on Nyu Media specifically was talking about Steam.

No matter where Crimzon Clover lands though it deserves more face time. This thing is stellar and shouldn't be buried in page 9 of some online distributor's sub sections for genres in the indie only section.

[asu_tenan]

I want it on steam if it was the arcade version port + multiplayer support...

[MathU]

I use Steam and think all the front page ad time that Steam offers titles like this would be good for it... Plus even if it was to go to other distributors via PC and not console like my example, Steam has the biggest PC market share. More shoppers = more players.

I can understand wanting developers of good games to be successful. Wanting their success at the possible expense of rights that other players value is another thing though. Furthermore, that kind of logic where people should side with a distributor just because they're the biggest only discourages competition.

[Uzumakijl]

I understand your reasoning MathU but being realistic, Steam does give games a lot of promotion, You wont believe how many people buy stuff just because it's on sale, nowadays being on steam isn't all about the DRM or the client, but mostly of all the promotion these games get and potential sales from people who wouldn't have bought it otherwise.