Movies you've just watched

[boagman]

I will always love the Life Aquatic because it renders that overrated piece of garbage "Lost in Translation" completely obsolete.

We can agree to disagree without being disagreeable, then, because LIT was, I thought, a very good movie.

[DEL]

Just watched Kevin Smith's RED STATE. All I can get from it is that zionist Hollywood is making Christians look bad, like gun-toting fanatics. All part of the usual agenda I guess.

Got Tucker & Dale Vs Evil and Expendables 2 because they were cheap - will watch them soon.
EDIT - Halfway through Tucker and Dale and its excellent!

[GaijinPunch]

Just watched Kevin Smith's RED STATE. All I can get from it is that zionist Hollywood is making Christians look bad, like gun-toting fanatics. All part of the usual agenda I guess.

Well, if it looks like a gun-toting fanatic, and smells like a gun-toting fanatic...

For the most part they're making fun of those on the extreme far right, and they deserve it. You think run of the mill muslims are easy to objectify like their fundamentalist cousins? Plenty of people of faith in the middle (some of them even bible thumpers) but they don't own AR-15's just in case the military decides to declare war on it's own people.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Détective (1985).



Watched it for Ann-Gisel Glass of Rats - Notte di terrore fame (don't ask).

[Moniker]

Just watched Kevin Smith's RED STATE. All I can get from it is that zionist Hollywood is making Christians look bad, like gun-toting fanatics. All part of the usual agenda I guess.

Well, if it looks like a gun-toting fanatic, and smells like a gun-toting fanatic...

Sorry! The correct answer is this is a film by Kevin Smith. What might appear to be an ideological agenda is actually an incoherent mess of attempted counterculture with all the depth of understanding of early adolescence.

[DEL]

Moniker wrote;

Sorry! The correct answer is this is a film by Kevin Smith. What might appear to be an ideological agenda is actually an incoherent mess of attempted counterculture with all the depth of understanding of early adolescence.

Very true! I sarted to watch Kevin Smith's interview in the DVD's extras and he's spouting pure drivel, pure nonsense. I switched it off, thinking "what a confused and incoherent mind "

[chempop]

Red State was pretty messed up, I had to keep reminding myself that it was a Kevin Smith film, like that would someone make it acceptable... I'm not even a fan of him much, but I can see why he'd want to portray far-far right in this way. Not that I've seen it (I live in a very liberal bubble), but I can easily imagine his vision being not too far from the truth.

[GaijinPunch]

Haven't seen it, so can't direclty comment. Not sure where Moniker is from, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say I've spent far more of my life around the people and geographic locale portrayed in the movie than DEL. The said thing is, I have people in my family that I would be disconnected from if I told them what I thought about people who own AR-15's just in case the government turns agains them. So, I guess I can't get too verbal.

[Skykid]

What's wrong with Red State?

It may have all the purpose of an inflammatory online blog post, but some factions deserve that kind of heat to make it to the movies. I thought it was well directed, and while hardly subtle, its black humour was certainly amusing (made me laugh anyhow.)

I prefer filmmakers using the medium to say something rather than nothing, and to that end it wasn't without value, regardless of its rather childish one-sidedness.

[DEL]

GaijinPunch wrote;

Haven't seen it, so can't direclty comment. Not sure where Moniker is from, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say I've spent far more of my life around the people and geographic locale portrayed in the movie than DEL. The said thing is, I have people in my family that I would be disconnected from if I told them what I thought about people who own AR-15's just in case the government turns agains them. So, I guess I can't get too verbal.

Yes you're far more in the know about such people in the US than I am, and I'm sure you're right.
I'm just saying that Red State is a gun control agenda movie. Your 2nd Amendment gives you the right to bear arms for the purpose of overthrowing a US government that gets too tyrannical, and I totally agree with that.
Red State grabs an extreme case scenario and paints Christians as being gun-toting/using wackos. There's a line in the massive firefight where the Pastor says "that's a good Christian!" as the woman turns around and unloads an AK out the window.
Can you see the message here?
Its all about the zionist State of Israel guys (who now comprise 50% of your Senate) making guns and indeed Christians look bad.
Look at who's leading the charge against private ownership of guns in the US -> Feinstein and Rahm Emanuel.
If anyone thinks that gun control in the US is for the safety of the US Public, then they've gotta be pretty naive. The clubs that run the Show like the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) certainly don't care about the masses they call useless eaters.
This stuff probably belongs on the "Another Day another school shooting" thread, but RED STATE is that kind of gun control agenda film.

[Skykid]

I didn't get the gun control thing from it, although retrospectively I see where you're coming from - I just thought it was a commentary on the dangerous nature of Christian extremists, the cultural death of American youth and the hidden agenda of government - that's how the three acts focused themselves anyhow.

Can't really see a need for the US government to disarm the people at all, they have much bigger guns and more of them. As I mentioned previously, the time to invoke the 2nd amendment passed a good while back, just no one noticed. DAT SHIP SAILED. WATCH TV AND BUY SOMETHING.

[Mischief Maker]

GaijinPunch wrote;

Haven't seen it, so can't direclty comment. Not sure where Moniker is from, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say I've spent far more of my life around the people and geographic locale portrayed in the movie than DEL. The said thing is, I have people in my family that I would be disconnected from if I told them what I thought about people who own AR-15's just in case the government turns agains them. So, I guess I can't get too verbal.

Yes you're far more in the know about such people in the US than I am, and I'm sure you're right.
I'm just saying that Red State is a gun control agenda movie. Your 2nd Amendment gives you the right to bear arms for the purpose of overthrowing a US government that gets too tyrannical, and I totally agree with that.
Red State grabs an extreme case scenario and paints Christians as being gun-toting/using wackos. There's a line in the massive firefight where the Pastor says "that's a good Christian!" as the woman turns around and unloads an AK out the window.
Can you see the message here?
Its all about the zionist State of Israel guys (who now comprise 50% of your Senate) making guns and indeed Christians look bad.
Look at who's leading the charge against private ownership of guns in the US -> Feinstein and Rahm Emanuel.
If anyone thinks that gun control in the US is for the safety of the US Public, then they've gotta be pretty naive. The clubs that run the Show like the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) certainly don't care about the masses they call useless eaters.
This stuff probably belongs on the "Another Day another school shooting" thread, but RED STATE is that kind of gun control agenda film.

I'll be honest. At first I thought you were a wacko.

But then when you started telling me about an international conspiracy run by the Jews, that's when I realized you had a balanced head on your shoulders! I feel safe now, knowing there are individuals like you walking the streets armed.

[GaijinPunch]

Yes you're far more in the know about such people in the US than I am, and I'm sure you're right.
I'm just saying that Red State is a gun control agenda movie. Your 2nd Amendment gives you the right to bear arms for the purpose of overthrowing a US government that gets too tyrannical, and I totally agree with that.

It worked up until about 120 years ago. Now? Not so much.

But then when you started telling me about an international conspiracy run by the Jews, that's when I realized you had a balanced head on your shoulders! I feel safe now, knowing there are individuals like you walking the streets armed.

[CMoon]

@boagman - If you're not keen on the Wilson bros, you'd probably best steer clear of Bottle Rocket, since they're the two main characters (it is on Netflix, though). I think they're great, personally, but I can sorta see how some might be turned off.

Ah...that's pretty much the death knell, then. When you're starting off with that big of an obstacle, I don't think it's one that can be overcome, no matter how great the rest of it is.

Sorry, I forgot about the Wes Anderson discussion I started. Yeah, if there are particular actors you can't stand, that's a pretty objective reason not to like certain films. For me, I don't have a problem with any of those actors, so instead it is whether the film clicks with me or not. I liked Moonrise Kingdom but it didn't register with me on any deep level. Darjeeling Limited didn't click with me at all...I just didn't really understand or relate with anything going on in the movie. On the other hand, I can see the similarities to Bottle Rocket. BR isn't my favorite WA film by any means, but I like it and it works on that same love/hate relationship between two brothers. Did DL have 3 brothers? I barely even remember that film.

I also think it is true that all these films work better with multiple viewings. Probably my least favorite WA films will eventually grow on me. Rushmore was definitely better a second time.

[RGC]

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[lilmanjs]

Diamonds Are Forever. Bond being Bond, and the rest of the cast being slightly odd. One of the more unusual bond movies, but showed the changing direction the movies were going towards in the 70s. Still I love how they "killed" James Bond.

[ArmoredCore]

Takeshi Miike's Hara-Kiri remake on netflix. Dissapointing to say the least.

[Raytrace]

watching The Field - unbelievably I've never seen it before o_O

just as great as everyone says - Harris is mesmerizingly good in it.

[xbl0x180]

I loved Lost In Translation. In a way, it sits in contrast to another favourite film, Before Sunrise. I thought it had some good cinematography/photography, which is definitely better than what Linklater shot. Both movies had a decent score and song choices pasted onto the images - and both had a poignant sequence dealing with one song: the karaoke scene in one and the record listening booth in the other. At the end, one made you feel wistful and the other made you feel hopeful

[R79]

Can you see the message here?

Have all those repeated Truxton loops made you lose the plot mate? You increasingly seem very paranoid and extreme in your viewpoints (borderline anti-semitic frankly) Sad to see from one of our greatest living shoot-em-up vets Some of these off-topic threads are fascinating in what they reveal of the mindset and outlook of some players

As pointed out above, if right-wing gun-toting Christians is what they are, then the lampooning is wholly deserved. The only agenda there is comedy and entertainment, i.e., a big part of what Hollywood does.

If you want to see higher level media based Jewish people laughing at themselves, catch a few episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm sometime

[Mischief Maker]

Have all those repeated Truxton loops made you lose the plot mate? You increasingly seem very paranoid and extreme in your viewpoints (borderline anti-semitic frankly) Sad to see from one of our greatest living shoot-em-up vets Some of these off-topic threads are fascinating in what they reveal of the mindset and outlook of some players

Just because Elvis Presley was a pedophile doesn't mean you can't enjoy his music.

[boagman]

As pointed out above, if right-wing gun-toting Christians is what they are, then the lampooning is wholly deserved.

I fail to see why this is the case. I happen to be a relatively right-wing, *non*-gun-toting Christian. What does that make me? If I should decide that I want to arm myself (I live in the freaking *Detroit* area, for heaven's sake), am I therefore deserving of being lambasted for my logic of doing so? What if I just *really don't want to* get killed by some crackhead, or robbed on the job?

Often (and I haven't seen the movie in question, so I'm commenting in a general sense), editing to one's policitical mindset/bent is the way that many documentaries choose to make their often-quasi-nutjobbie point. Those whose opinions differ from theirs are edited in such a way as to make them look like complete and total nut jobs. I don't disagree that there *are* people out there that can (and do) have such skewed viewpoints as to be, in fact, nut jobs. The error, however, is saying or inferring that because one person is a nut job, and they're both Christian and a gun-toter, all gun-toting Christians are therefore nut jobs.

Since documentarians certainly have an agenda of their own, it's amusing to see those who would *rail against* "anyone at all" being stereotyped, doing that very thing themselves, and trying to "wash it clean" by making it into/calling it a "documentary".

[Moniker]

I don't understand the controversy. Red State is just the result of Kevin Smith having read about the Branch Davidians on wikipedia, and deciding to make it even cooler, by not having main characters or a plot. To be fair, Michael Parks put on a good show.

Anyway, in response to GP's query above, half my family is indeed right wing southern Christian conservative etc. Cousin was married in Waco recently. Movie still sucks.

[GaijinPunch]

I fail to see why this is the case. I happen to be a relatively right-wing, *non*-gun-toting Christian. What does that make me?

Not the people that the movie or people in this thread are poking fun at.

Anyway, in response to GP's query above, half my family is indeed right wing southern Christian conservative etc.

Pretty sure I can 1-up you there w/ like 80% of my family. In a recent conversation one of my relatives (who owns an AR-15, but lives in REALLY rural Texas) was told my a law enforcement agent "You should make sure you have plenty of assault rifles. If Katrina happened around here we can't protect you... it's every man for himself". That was a fucking police officer that said that.

Even as proud as he is to have his guns, he doesn't carry them, and he says he doesn't believe that everyone should have the right to carry one. Just too many idiots out there. So for that, I was pretty impressed.

[boagman]

In a recent conversation one of my relatives (who owns an AR-15, but lives in REALLY rural Texas) was told my a law enforcement agent "You should make sure you have plenty of assault rifles. If Katrina happened around here we can't protect you... it's every man for himself". That was a fucking police officer that said that.

Again, I live in the Detroit area.

A couple of years ago, there was a man who lived in the city who had been robbed, if I recall correctly, no fewer than twice in a week. The police not only wouldn't do anything to help the employed homeowner, they wouldn't even come to his home, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even file a report.

One week later, said man came home to find a person who'd broken into his home and was in the process of robbing it. The homeowner shot and killed this intruder, and his reward was being *imprisoned* for manslaughter.

Tell me, now: what was this guy supposed to do? I don't own a gun, I don't really *want* to own a gun, but if I were that homeowner, I can honestly say that I would have done the *exact same thing* he did.

I'd much rather an officer said what the Texas police officer said than to be saddled with a system that actively protects the criminals from the victims they persecute. Again: I don't own a gun, and I'd rather not own a gun...but I have *zero* problem with those who feel the need to protect themselves and those they love, as well as their property.

Different parts of the country, to be sure, but at least the Texas police officer was trying to be helpful!

[Ed Oscuro]

I recall the Detroit police were giving highly misleading statements of a legal nature when some guys organized a protest gun buy in counter to the Detroit area's official no-questions gun buy. Eh, bureaucrats.

It's a very sad story but unfortunately that's how it goes sometimes.

[CMoon]

Happy People, A Year in the Taiga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WirR-WgO-E

New documentary from Werner Herzog (but he's more a producer this time 'round, editing down a larger work.) Fascinating film about the life of taiga hunters in Siberia. Nothing like Into the Abyss or Grizzly Man, just a really nice overview of people who are (for the most part) still living the way they did hundreds of years ago.

[GaijinPunch]

Again, I live in the Detroit area.

So? It's not Comptom. Shit, Dallas in the 80's and 90's was a shit storm. A cop got killed about 100 yards from my house when i was in high school and that's the suburbs. I still didn't see the need to carry then, and definitely don't now on visits.

Tell me, now: what was this guy supposed to do?

Get a better lawyer. The law is quite clear on what is legal when someone has broken into your house.

I'd much rather an officer said what the Texas police officer said than to be saddled with a system that actively protects the criminals from the victims they persecute.

I think you're missing the point. The police are just people -- so, many of them are dip shits.

Again: I don't own a gun, and I'd rather not own a gun...but I have *zero* problem with those who feel the need to protect themselves and those they love, as well as their property.

I don't have a problem with that. I only have a problem with the "more guns less death" <Dr. Evil Quotes>Logic</Dr. Evil Quotes>

[1up]

Watched The Last Stand with Arnold Schwarzenegger this past weekend. It felt very 90's and was pretty entertaining/awesome all the way through. It had it all. Stupid plot, fast cars, psychotic badguy, bigguns, humor, one liners and fist fights. Arnold sure looks old, 65, and isn't as mobile but still awesome. But he is back, kicking ass and taking numbers. No shirtless shots, so couldn't tell if he's back into shape, but my guess would be no as he looked kinda bulky.

[jonny5]

Watched The Tall Man the other night; twists abound!!

Watched Severance too....g/f wasn't too impressed, I said it was a comedy . Some funny bits, but definitely not what she expected. I thought it was ok for what it was.

Watched The Machinist...strange film. Don't know if I liked it or not.

Also watched Boy Wonder, which was surprisingly good, with a nice twist at the end.

Gotta love hungover Sunday movie fests.