Mushihimesama Futari Ver1.5 & Black Label

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Congrats! Now do it on a PCB like a real man.
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Gus wrote:
ResumeDPosition wrote:So what would happen if you did another counterstop concerning uploading the replay to the XBL leaderboards...would it upload and erase your old replay or would it be impossible to upload? Since the score wasn't "beaten" doesn't it ignore the prompt to save the replay?
I have no clue. If I got a counterstop clear and that happened I'd just upload it to Youtube.
Obviously, if you counterstop and clear it, it will erase your previous perfomance which wasnt a ALL clear.

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Congrats on the counterstop! I've been working on Ultra as well, just had my first decent run:

Version 1.5 - Xbox 360 - Ultra - Palm
iconoclast - 2,868,383,779 - Stage 5 (Boss) - Abnormal
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Holy shit, that's some fast progress.
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Hello all. :D

Update on my score Maniac 1.5 with Reco Normal


04 | -S.L- | *593,244,747 | stage 5 (Boss) | Normal


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Version 1.5 - Xbox 360 - Maniac - Reco
Giest118 - 328,842,283 - ALL (Lx1) - Normal

Finally got my faggy little 1cc.
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after playing this game for about 4 months i finally got a score that i'm happy with.

version 1.5-pcb-original-reco
brokenhalo-330,078,373-all (lx2)-normal

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Black Label - X360 - God - Reco
Naut - 1,598,171,942 - 4
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Black Label - X360 - God - Reco
Weak Boson - 2,568,706,544 - 5

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Been playing this mode quite a lot recently so it's nice to have something to show for it. Still want to push for the 1CC.
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Nice to meet you, too
Thank you grammar where there is a lot wrong with studying English.

I do not know whether or not helpful, I will do my best to put video player because I want a little variety.


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Perfect score is 530,000,000
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/so/2830518
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Epic. Great to have you here, man! Really cool replay as well. I wish I had the balls/skill to play like that.
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CHUBOW wrote:Nice to meet you, too
Thank you grammar where there is a lot wrong with studying English.

I do not know whether or not helpful, I will do my best to put video player because I want a little variety.


Counter when entering fall 2000 BOSS
Perfect score is 530,000,000
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/so/2830518
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Black Label - X360 - God - Reco
Weak Boson - 2,802,548,654 - ALL

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Feels good!
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CHUBOW wrote:Nice to meet you, too
Thank you grammar where there is a lot wrong with studying English.

I do not know whether or not helpful, I will do my best to put video player because I want a little variety.


Counter when entering fall 2000 BOSS
Perfect score is 530,000,000
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/so/2830518
Amazing replay! :D More?
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Hi Guys,

I'm new to the forum and Shmups. I talked about this game in my post in the Self-Introduction Thread. I fell in love with this game, and would one day like to 1CC Futari Ultra. I'm slowly working my way there.

Just reached 184 Million on Original a minute ago. Previous high score was 117 Million. I've been working on trouble areas in training mode and it's really paying off. Once I 1CC original with over 200 Mill, I'll start posting my scores and pics. Not that 200 Million on Original is anything special, lol.

When you guys got a decent score on Original, did you keep trying for a higher score? Or did you guys go straight to Maniac?

Nice meeting you all.
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Welcome, man.

I probably look horrible saying this given what I've said in the past but if your goal is to 1cc Ultra then optimizing Original isn't going to help you much. I'm not saying it can't be a challenge if you get to the level of a 70k counter or something but the skills that go into that are really different from what you need to get through Ultra. In fact the game is such a big step up from the game's other modes and different from anything else out there I'd just recommend to play it as much as you can and get used to a lot of bullshit.

So yeah, move on to Maniac then Ultra when you can clear that.
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Thanks for the tips. While I want to 1CC ultra, I do like going for high scores. So maybe I'll do a progression like 1cc Original --> 1cc Maniac --> 1cc Ultra --> Counterstop Ultra.

After that I will probably go to Black Label God Mode and try for a really high score there 5 billion or higher (thinking really long term here).

Do you guys think CAVE can and would be willing to change the counterstop in Futari ultra? Like in a DLC? Why did they put that there in the first place?

Also, I saw that the black label WR is around 7 Billion, what kind of theoretical maximum score is there in Black Label?

Thanks.
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TheSyllogist wrote: Do you guys think CAVE can and would be willing to change the counterstop in Futari ultra? Like in a DLC? Why did they put that there in the first place?
Not even a vague chance of them changing it. Because science.
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Black Label is probably close to optimized.

As for why they chose 3,999,999,999

it's probably to avoid issues with unsigned 32-bit integer overflow at around 4,295,313,340 points.


I need to get back to this, since I still need to do those God runs.
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Chaos Phoenixma wrote:
Black Label is probably close to optimized.

As for why they chose 3,999,999,999

it's probably to avoid issues with unsigned 32-bit integer overflow at around 4,295,313,340 points.

Is 8 billion possible in Black Label?

I wonder why there is no counter stop in Black Label but there is in Ultra. It would be nice to see Ultra pushed to the maximum possible score.
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God mode seems to be pretty well maxed around 7.1 bil and Original and Maniac have much lower potential. The game has been counterstopped at 9,999,999 by a person using both players at once.

(Your multiplier only goes down when you collect blue gems, so one character kills everything to apply his multiplier, and the other character sucks in the gems and reaps the points. It's pretty clever.)
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Black Label - Xbox360 - God - Reco
Balloid - 3,406,297,191 - Stage 5

Version 1.5 - Xbox360 - Ultra - Abnormal Palm
Balloid - 130.971.337 - Stage 2 (lol)

UP: Black Label - Xbox360 - God - Reco
Balloid - 4,130,272,110 - Stage 5

btw should I switch to palm if I want to go above 5b? I know iconoclast did a really nice score with reco but the WR is with palm. Any advantage scoring-wise with palm that I am missing?
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Black Label - 360 - Original - Reco
RBS - 897,042,827 - ALL (Lx2)
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CStarFlare wrote:God mode seems to be pretty well maxed around 7.1 bil and Original and Maniac have much lower potential. The game has been counterstopped at 9,999,999 by a person using both players at once.

(Your multiplier only goes down when you collect blue gems, so one character kills everything to apply his multiplier, and the other character sucks in the gems and reaps the points. It's pretty clever.)
that's pretty awesome. is there a video of this available?
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Is there a video of the 7.1 billion world record?
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Also, are the forum high score tables being updated? GUS's high score in the first post isn't his new counterstop score.
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brokenhalo wrote:
CStarFlare wrote:God mode seems to be pretty well maxed around 7.1 bil and Original and Maniac have much lower potential. The game has been counterstopped at 9,999,999 by a person using both players at once.

(Your multiplier only goes down when you collect blue gems, so one character kills everything to apply his multiplier, and the other character sucks in the gems and reaps the points. It's pretty clever.)
that's pretty awesome. is there a video of this available?
The technique is on display here, but I don't think there's a video of the counterstop run. (the guy has videos of the whole run which is pretty close though) Someone posted a picture of the record on cave-stg a while back.
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TheSyllogist wrote:Is there a video of the 7.1 billion world record?
There's one pretty near to that by ZAP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6QGh-K71dA. It's with Palm though, when the current record is Reco.
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Erppo wrote:
TheSyllogist wrote:Is there a video of the 7.1 billion world record?
There's one pretty near to that by ZAP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6QGh-K71dA. It's with Palm though, when the current record is Reco.
That's pretty damn amazing.
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Balloid wrote:palm if I want to go above 5b? I know iconoclast did a really nice score with reco but the WR is with palm. Any advantage scoring-wise with palm that I am missing?
NAK reclaimed the record a few months back with Reco. The reason it was with Palm for a year was because ZAP got a near perfect run where he finished with 5 lives and 6 bombs while even in his new stuff I think NAK only finished with 5 lives and 2 bombs. From what I played of Palm it seems he has an easier time with Larsa because of his faster speed and his laser generating slightly more slowdown.
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