Fun with EA: "Micro"-Transactions, Online DRM, CEO Fired

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Fun with EA: "Micro"-Transactions, Online DRM, CEO Fired

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All upcoming EA games are to feature "micro"-transactions. And we'll love it.
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EDIT: And here we go: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... g-3-review

EDIT2: This topic now is also about the trainwreck that is CimCity (2013), a broken game with always-online DRM.

EDIT3: EA CEO John Riccitiello has resigned/was fired
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Pretty much all new games have micro-transactions. Any time you get charged to get access to a weapon that should have been in the game or a skin that should have been in the game, it's a microtransaction. No matter what they call it. DLC, Bonus Content, add-ons, etc. How about BULLSHIT!!!!

I'm sick and tired of it, really. Games nowadays are pretty much bare bones as they are and cutting bits and pieces to sell separately should be criminal.
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This is going to end badly. You can't just blindly shoehorn features into a product for the sake of MOAR REVENUE; it has to make sense for the customer. I'm sure some of EA's studios will eventually manage to do worthwhile things with microtransactions, but I expect them to be the exception.
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having got bored of shmups the last year and getting into pc gaming in a big way has shown me that this is a worrying trend.. people are actually spending shit loads of money i.e £100 + on this pay to win shit.
Fair enough if your title is free to play in the first place but now titles that you pay outright for are becoming pay to win :|
that little boy spent well over a grand on his phone on some shitty zombie game.lulz
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charlie chong wrote: that little boy spent well over a grand on his phone on some shitty zombie game.lulz
In case anyone missed that one, in a "free to play" iOS game called Zombies vs. Ninja they are selling packs of one-time use bombs in-game for 100 USD per pack; the boy in question was 5 years old and was using his father's iPad. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0 ... ir=Parents

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it's annoying for me cos i was planning on getting in on some battlefield 4 action when that comes out despite my deep seated hatred for ea.(i've thought about buying battlefield 3 but i think that games too near the end of it's shelflife to give ea the money they are charging for it)

tonight i'm going to try a free to play title called warthunder. i imagine it will be pay to win :x
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charlie chong wrote:it's annoying for me cos i was planning on getting in on some battlefield 4 action when that comes out despite my deep seated hatred for ea.(i've thought about buying battlefield 3 but i think that games too near the end of it's shelflife to give ea the money they are charging for it)

tonight i'm going to try a free to play title called warthunder. i imagine it will be pay to win :x
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As long as retarded consumers put up with that shit and pay for it, it's going to stay around.
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ea are quite like cave really the way they keep releasing the same game year after year and people keep buying em :lol:
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charlie chong wrote:ea are quite like cave really the way they keep releasing the same game year after year and people keep buying em :lol:
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This is mostly a thing from EA. I don't really expect microtransactions to become standard practice from every developer.

If it does come to that, then it's time to hang the controller. Or stick with the previous generations of games.
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Cheap date. Can I microtransaction my girlfriend?
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Slightly OT, since it's not about micro-transactions specifically, but whatever... I bought the God of War Saga collection on Amazon when it was on sale for $15 in November. The two 'Origins' games are downloadable versions, which I knew, so that's not what I had a problem with. It's that the download code 'expires' at the end of this month (6 months after the collection's release). I hadn't actually redeemed it yet, so it's a good job I checked before the date was up. The only place where the expiration date was listed was on the voucher inside the box. It's not listed on the back of the box or on Amazon's store page. Now maybe there's some way to call up and reactivate the code or whatever, but when you're buying a collection of 5 games, I don't think you should have to worry about whether or not some of them have 'expired' and you have to call up customer service to get it sorted out.

I believe E.A. also has codes in their games for DLC/online services that expire, though from what I've seen they're usually good for a year. I don't really see who benefits from putting expiration dates on these codes. Surely it just annoys your actual customers who've already given you their money and potentially puts them off from dealing with you again.
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The worst is when they put up tons of dlc as soon as the game is released. I was so disgusted by that I didn't buy Gears of War 3 until it dropped to $15 and I never bought any of the dlc either.

They are probably going to start charging to press the start button after you "buy" the game.
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It seems like these games are really designed by a bunch of people in a boardroom going, "How can we increase revenue?". I remember an interview where Myamoto said basically, "When we did SMB, we did what we wanted, and we didn't care how marketable it was. It wasn't our job to sell it". We're at the exact opposite end of the spectrum now-- playing an AAA game now and thinking you're playing a real game is like listening to Nicki Minaj and thinking you're listening to real music. Did you really expect some other outcome?
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MadScientist wrote:Slightly OT, since it's not about micro-transactions specifically, but whatever... I bought the God of War Saga collection on Amazon when it was on sale for $15 in November. The two 'Origins' games are downloadable versions, which I knew, so that's not what I had a problem with. It's that the download code 'expires' at the end of this month (6 months after the collection's release). I hadn't actually redeemed it yet, so it's a good job I checked before the date was up. The only place where the expiration date was listed was on the voucher inside the box. It's not listed on the back of the box or on Amazon's store page. Now maybe there's some way to call up and reactivate the code or whatever, but when you're buying a collection of 5 games, I don't think you should have to worry about whether or not some of them have 'expired' and you have to call up customer service to get it sorted out.

I believe E.A. also has codes in their games for DLC/online services that expire, though from what I've seen they're usually good for a year. I don't really see who benefits from putting expiration dates on these codes. Surely it just annoys your actual customers who've already given you their money and potentially puts them off from dealing with you again.
This is one retarded thing designed to get more people downloading games. I tend to boycott games that do this 'cause I wouldn't have bought a DISC if I wanted digital copies. Put all the goddamn content on the disc, when you're selling me a disc.
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It should also be noted that EA's and our definition of "micro" seem to diverge slightly.
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Between this crud and Origin, I don't see there being much chance of any EA games finding their way onto my system anytime soon.
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I still have an investor's packet from 1997 :(

Maybe I should've bought stock? Nah...

Speaking of micro-transactions, though, everybody's doing it and everybody's doing it badly. Even the hidden object games are doing it in a slap-happy fashion, like "Gardens of Time" on Google+ and Facebook, which add a stupid "decorate this garden (or else you can't get new scenes)" mechanic and lots of other junk.

The one thing that EA hasn't done yet is implement some kind of timer for play time, like Gardens of Time has. It seems like a fair way of spreading out play time (which might help reduce "rush hour") but this is of course highly inconvenient for the player.
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Friendly wrote:It should also be noted that EA's and our definition of "micro" seem to diverge slightly.
Eurogamer wrote:Here's a game that's not shy about handing you repair bills at the end of a race and one that doesn't blush over an in-game car that costs almost £60 in real-world money.
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Well earned, I'd say:
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Microtransactions are why I haven't bought Dead Space 3 yet, a franchise that I absolutely love. I'm waiting until cheap second hand copies exist just to deprive EA of money.
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^^Yeah, same. It's a shame, because all else being equal, they really do put out a ton of great games. I don't usually cotton to boycotts, but this pushes my bullshit threshold to the limit. Then again, I'm the kind of person who gets annoyed by unobtrusive microtransactions in F2P games...
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Why charge for the game if they are going to be nickeling-and-diming later? Give the razor away for free, make money on the blades. That's the only way I'd ever support that kind of stuff. They can't cry foul and claim they are doing this as a way to recover revenue lost to piracy (if that's an excuse), since getting that DLC means they already sold a copy of the game it's meant for.
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Specineff wrote:Why charge for the game if they are going to be nickeling-and-diming later? Give the razor away for free, make money on the blades.
I don't like that approach either (aka "freenium), especially when the "blades" wear out fast and there is no way to just pay a one time price to buy the full game. EA did that with Real Racing 3 and it sounds like you have to keep paying money to progress with no way to just buy the full game.
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Biggest lol-o-rama of "micro" transactions was VF5's costumes/items. You play the game to pimp out your character -- they just let anyone buy everything at launch. Stupid.
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If you don't like this content, then consider:

A. Getting people to realize they shouldn't be buying them and will follow through with their wallets.

B. Proposing a strategy to game companies that results in even more profits and would be preferable to consumers.
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system11 wrote:Microtransactions are why I haven't bought Dead Space 3 yet, a franchise that I absolutely love. I'm waiting until cheap second hand copies exist just to deprive EA of money.
Does the game have any microtransactions / DLC problems, though? No need to punish them when they're getting it right.

I did the same thing years ago, though, with the first account-ridden Battlefield games. Don't really know what I've bought from them since, other than their distributions of a couple games on Steam.
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And the lost sales from me will be labeled as piracy.
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spoot wrote:And the lost sales from me will be labeled as piracy.
Nah. It will just push them to integrate everything online further, though.
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