Why Not Just Use a CRT TV ??

[Scumbum]

I'm not trying to troll or anything and I think its awesome theres other guys as critical and anal about playing their classic games in perfection like me . All I care about is Classic Gaming , my cut off point is the Gamecube , thats when I lost interest in Modern Games .

So my question is with all the Money/Time/Effort/Energy in getting LCD TV's to look and feel/no Lag , like a CRT TV , why not just use a CRT TV ??

I read all these threads about scaling , Lag , video processing , resolution , refresh rates......and all I do is turn on my Sony 35" Trinitron CRT TV and it does all those things effortlessly .

I also have some Sony PVM CRT Monitors that I play games on .

If CRT TV's were all gone and rare , I can see the effort in making an LCD look and feel like a CRT , but people are giving these CRT TV's away .

So why not have an LCD for your modern game systems and a 19" CRT for playing the classic old school systems on ?

[Drachenherz]

Hehehe... yeah, why not?



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B&O MX4000 and MX6000... Loving them so far, even with an Xbox 360 - the cave ports are just toooooo good on this 29" CRT tate setup... And soon I'll be able to play my vertical pcbs on this, roaaarrrrr.

[blizzz]

Sure, why not. If I had the space for a big CRT I would use it. I think the main reason is that most people only have one couch area, and that is occupied by a big flatscreen TV nowadays.

[moh]

Sure, why not. If I had the space for a big CRT I would use it. I think the main reason is that most people only have one couch area, and that is occupied by a big flatscreen TV nowadays.

mmhm, not to mention, there are some people that dont like having to lug around a giant crt, when they can just rotate a nice light LCD. Personally, I like not having to worry about discolouration, and convergence issues.

[fagin]

Some of us have gone full circle...... back to CRT's. I currently have 9..... along with a shedload of processors and scalers for modern displays. It's all good fun.

[Drachenherz]

Some of us have gone full circle...... back to CRT's. I currently have 9..... along with a shedload of processors and scalers for modern displays. It's all good fun.

You know, has it occured to you that you could be possibly sailing into "CRT-addiction" territory?

[Scumbum]

Some of us have gone full circle...... back to CRT's. I currently have 9..... along with a shedload of processors and scalers for modern displays. It's all good fun.

I have 5 right now cause I got rid of some but I'm gonna start picking up some more .

When I see one at a garage sale I pull over and try to get it cheap , $5-$10 .

I'm gonna stock pile them so even in the future when they might be rare , I'll have a bunch to always play games on .

[wilwong1971]

Yep it gets quite addictive! I've really gone off Xbox360/PS3 3D gaming at the moment:




I have a Samsung 24inch LCD running next to my B&O MX4000 and the CRT beats it hands down. Will be replacing the CM8833 with another B&O in Tate mode next week!

[Endymion]

If CRT TV's were all gone and rare , I can see the effort in making an LCD look and feel like a CRT , but people are giving these CRT TV's away .

I can give you at least one damn good reason.

It is true that the public at large does not give a crap about a CRT. Any CRT. But this sidelines them so much that it is increasingly difficult to find any CRT model, let alone a particular version if you happen to have a need, want, or liking of such, which is not already in an adulterated state. And that's putting it nicely. Even crappy CRTs are not so easy to find, as most folks who have them, usually have such a tough time unloading them at all, that they eventually DO unload them in a way that nobody would want to see--think, kicked off the back of a truck into a ditch on the side of an old, untraveled road somewhere. I see more broken CRTs on the side of the street nowadays than I ever see craigslist postings of CRTs that I might actually care enough about to buy, and I'm the handy type who doesn't mind rolling back his sleeves to try and fix a thing or two, but there isn't a lot I can do about broken CRTs. The ones that are still out there, nice and large especially, are an endangered species as very few of us seem to come into them, and the folks who still have them just don't give a damn enough to have them well-kept.

[ryu]

the pictures that recent large screen displays show are only slightly worse than those that better crts produce, so it makes sense to favor them in combination with scaling hardware for their size alone

[blizzz]

This thread makes me seriously want to pick up a CRT. Would a B&O MX4000 for ~50€ be a good choice? Could also get a 55cm Sony Trinitron KV-M1920D.

[Overkill]

Well, as you can see, most of us don't are just playing in LCD's/plasmas. Most of us are having the best of both worlds: Good old crt monitor and big lcd/plasma on the living room. You may see the same people chating on how to get 240p and low resolutions on crt monitors, and the same folks talking about the last firmware on xrgb mini, or other new video processor in town. I have setups to play on a big sony trinitron, on a sony pvm, on a small phillips cm8833, on a B&O 4000, on an arcade monitor, on an 21 pc crt monitor, on a small 1080 lcd, on a big 40" lcd, and you know what? i love them all! i love to go back to my old crt as i love to see it in giant screen with xrgb.

[ChuChu Flamingo]

Anyone serious about gaming will use a CRT. With that in mind, I think 240p on flat panels has come a long way to be almost perfect. On the other hand, 480i will never be perfect and will have nice delicious input lag.

[kamiboy]

I bought a Framemeister to tie me over for an interval of a few months without a CRT.

After a month of fiddling with it I gave up and ended up buying two CRT's to tie me over instead.

Any alternative to a good CRT is a compromise, short and simple. There is no substitute for the real thing.

Same goes for games and emulation by the way, but that is just me.

[AeroCityMayor]

I'm with ya d00d!!!

My main TV is still a 32" flat screen CRT as I still don't like the LCD ones. The only LCD screen I have in the house is for the computer and that's only a space thing!

10 JAMMA cabs with CRT monitors and a SG with a 14" Sony Trinitron for when I just don't have enough space in the cabs

If I had a 35" CRT TV, I don't think I'd leave the house

Nice one!

Cheers,

Ralph.

[Drachenherz]

I'm with ya d00d!!!

My main TV is still a 32" flat screen CRT as I still don't like the LCD ones. The only LCD screen I have in the house is for the computer and that's only a space thing!

10 JAMMA cabs with CRT monitors and a SG with a 14" Sony Trinitron for when I just don't have enough space in the cabs

If I had a 35" CRT TV, I don't think I'd leave the house

Nice one!

Cheers,

Ralph.

Hey Ralph, how's your Fritzl, ehm, Aero-basement progressing?

[AeroCityMayor]

Hey Ralph, how's your Fritzl, ehm, Aero-basement progressing?

O/T - sorry to OP!

hahahahaha

I'm in the Canaries at the moment but the meet is only 5 weeks away (16th March) so I'm on the vinegar stroke now d00d

I will be posting more "significant" WIP in the coming few weeks!

Cheers,

Ralph.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

I use CRT for my supergun. The fake stuff can look "cool" but it never looks real if you actually went to arcades and input lag is a dealbreaker with shmups. If you want/need one big enough though, it gets to the point where you need 2 because rotating it sucks. I have a giant one in the basement not even currently in use because there is no room for it in my room and I would not bother rotating it by hand for switching between hori and vert. It's just insanely heavy. Much more than a 21 incher would be a bitch to constantly rotate by hand. If you use a supergun and have your controls just 1-2 feet away from it though you don't really need more than that.

[R79]

I use a CRT for PS2, SS, GC, DC, MD, SFC, N64 and XBOX1

I use a low ping HDMI monitor for 360, and a VGA one for PC

The amount of classic games available across all 3 screen set-ups would take me way too long to type out here right now.

[blizzz]

Some of us have gone full circle...... back to CRT's.

I've just gone the circle too Grabbed a B&O MX4000 with Beo4 remote for 50€. A lot better than spending 400€ on an XRGB mini and also no more worrying about lag.

[ZellSF]

I have a CRT (connected and ready to use), but the problem with it is that it's not 50". And I think 50" is too small for a TV.

[kamiboy]

I have a CRT (connected and ready to use), but the problem with it is that it's not 50". And I think 50" is too small for a TV.

Move closer to the TV.

The 14" CRT I am playing on right now fills more of my field of vision than the 52" LCD on the wall in the background.

[Scumbum]

I have a CRT (connected and ready to use), but the problem with it is that it's not 50". And I think 50" is too small for a TV.

Move closer to the TV.

The 14" CRT I am playing on right now fills more of my field of vision than the 52" LCD on the wall in the background.

Yeah distance to the TV matters .

Like if you go to the Movie Theater , that screen is freaking huge , I don't know how big it is , but if your sitting in the last row all the way in the back , now how big does that screen really look ?

The bigger screens are for big rooms and multiple people to view . But if its just one person playing a video game , moving in close to a small screen can fill your whole field of vision like you said .

[ZellSF]

Closing in enough to the TV to make 14" seem as large as 50" would severely limit how comfortable my gaming position is, so no.

Move closer / farther away from the TV is not the solution to wrong TV size, and all those TV sizes aren't being made just to accommodate more viewers...

Imagine CRT is out of the question and you're alone, you have the choice between two identical TVs, one's large and one's small. Would you think which one to get doesn't matter because you can just change your viewing position to accommodate?

[BuckoA51]

I just don't have the space.

[kamiboy]

Closing in enough to the TV to make 14" seem as large as 50" would severely limit how comfortable my gaming position is, so no.

Move closer / farther away from the TV is not the solution to wrong TV size, and all those TV sizes aren't being made just to accommodate more viewers...

Imagine CRT is out of the question and you're alone, you have the choice between two identical TVs, one's large and one's small. Would you think which one to get doesn't matter because you can just change your viewing position to accommodate?

But CRT is not out of the question for me and I find sitting close to a 14" rather comfortable. Sometimes I even move closer to my LCD to get a more impactful viewing experience.

I actually had the chance of buying a 20" CRT, but opted for 14" because it was cheaper and less bulky. So far it is working out great.

[rCadeGaming]

CRT's all the way. My entertainment center has a wonderful KV-27FS120 in it that I use for everything up to Gamecube, and sometimes older-style games on newer systems, like Third Strike Online or Mega Man 9 through a Super Emotia. I need to get myself a Japanese 360 and see what shmups look good through a Super Emotia.

I've become known for "taking CRT's off of people hands." I stopped actively looking for them at about 6, and now I have 10. I need to go through and test and purge again.

If I do want to play something in 1080p or watch a movie, I just set my LED TV down on a little table in front of the CRT. What I really need is a setup where the LED is hung on a mount that allows it to raise up and reveal the CRT behind it. I think this is the best solution for the space issue, allowing both display types to coexist in the same setup. Rotating is a problem too though, and really requires a seperate dedicated CRT, something I need to build a cab for. Both of these will happen, eventually.

I'm not sure what the big deal is with weight, a 27" can be moved by one person, and why do you need to move it around unless you're moving houses/apartments?

[Krakko]

Tired of dealing with geometry/convergence issues and I'm just not happy with doing the whole 'dual tv' thing for modern and classic gaming. A good scaler allows me to have my entire setup focused on a single display. It's cleaner and takes up less space.

[fagin]

I just don't have the space.

You would if you junked all those scalers!

[Jeneki]

Five CRTs here. I usually aim for around 20" in size, which for me seems to be the best balance between portability and viewing. I do have one 36" beast, which thankfully I found the service menu to tweak the overscan and quality to my liking, and is surprisingly nice.