Daioujou or Mushihimesama, my dilema!

Leeram · Post by **Leeram** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:32 pm

When I play a game I like to give it my best shot. I can't always do them but I always try to train on one game in particular. With Ikaruga a got to the last boss after about 40 hours of practice. I didn't beat it, I had 8 seconds left. But I had done enough and I moved on.

The thing is I work and look after two kids so that 40 hours was made up over about 9 months! That's 9 months of concentrating solely on one game, only paying lip service to others.

I moved from Ikky to Daioujou, which I really love. However I can't play anything else whilst playing it. I have managed to work out strategies for level 3 and about half of level four. So I'm making reasonable progress. The trouble is that Daioujou, as much as I love it, requires absolute precision to build up chains. I find myself dying time after time simply to try and get a hyper option to help me out. It just gets frustrating. Without the chains it's hard to progress, once you try to chain you have to be so fucking precise that it drives you mad. I love the game though. My problem is that this is going to take me far longer than Ikky to complete.

I bought Mushi when it was released and gave it a quick go a few times; just to pay lip service to it because I was playing Daioujou seriously. I can't play two games at ones, trying to memeorize two just doesn't work. Anyway, I played Mushi a few times last week and I really like it. It is as hard as Daioujou (I'm playing on ultra, or should I say trying to) but doesn't ned the absolute precision of chaining. Obviously you can chain, but it doesn't matter if you don't. I've managed to get a strategy for Level 1, which I can't do yet, but the framework is there.

So I'm stuck in a quandry. Should I leave Mushi 'till another day and finish my DOJ assault, which will take me another year at least. Or should I go with Mushi which I actually enjoy playing more, because it is a less strict game.

Trouble is if a pick Mushi I know I will never go back to DOJ and I will regret it forever probably. Once I complete either Mushi or DOJ I intend to give the vertical world a rest and move to a hori shooter, well two of them in fact, Gradius V and Pulstar.

What would you do if you were me? Have you ever been in a similar situation? Desperately wanting to move on but equally as desperately wanting to finish the game you are playing?

Cheers

Leeram

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:09 pm

I love both games but I would never trade in a year of varied gaming fun to just live in DOJland. That's just me though. I didn't vote.

Pa

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:36 pm

Mushi is my favorite Cave game and has lots of modes to keep you entertained, DOJ is VERY hard and annoys me after 30 mins...

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:39 pm

I voted Mushihimesamma too. It's the game you enjoy more, and that's what games are really about : your enjoyment. There are the different play modes in Mushihimesamma, so you have all the various different bullet patterns to mess around with, which is a bonus.
I like Dai-Ou-Jou too, but there's something cold about it that prevents me from loving it, like I do with all the other Cave games. To 1cc DOJ would be an incredible achievement though (especially with a good score and perfect chains), and it would be the perfect ending to your vert shooter phase (no matter how temperary it is).
I have to admire your dedication to the one game though. I just can't do it. This is probably why my scores are crap.

zlk · Post by **zlk** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:44 pm

Even though DOJ is my favorite game of all time, I think you should choose mushihimesama. You have three levels of difficulty to choose from, you only have to complete 1 loop to finish the game, and the game also feels more relaxed. Given your time constraints, try mushihimesama. I think you will have more fun.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:53 pm

EspGaluda all the way.

Nei First · Post by **Nei First** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:52 am

Zweihander wrote:EspGaluda all the way.

Yeah I was gonna say exactly the same thing. ESPGaluda's difficulty is more accessible than Mushi and DOJ, and the game is damn fun too, probably the most fun out of the three.

Just a suggestion. Have you tried playing DOJ for just survival as well as score? Maybe you might find the game more enjoyable this way.

Anywayz, I love DOJ's difficulty, it gives me an adrenaline rush and "I find that fun in itself." In your case though I'd probably say just go with Mushi, cos there's really no point playing a game you don't enjoy, or get much fun from.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:41 am

To stay on-topic:

If you insist on picking between DOJ and Mushi (even though Galuda is 10x more fun than either, IMHO), i'd say Mushi. For me, Arrange Mode was the EASIEST near-1CC experience in a Cave shooter EVER. Got to the true final boss, AND took a chunk of life out of him before promptly getting assraped.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:44 am

Finish the job even if it will take you 2 years -> DOJ

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:13 am

Plasmo wrote:Finish the job even if it will take you 2 years -> DOJ

now, is that two years of playing it an hour or two a day, or two years of sitting there with an IV-needle feeding tube and a piss jar at your disposal?

sffan · Post by **sffan** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:21 pm

Just play both games and see how far you can get with each of them. Instead of concentrating on one game as if it's a project, have fun with both of them. Maybe you won't get as far with each, but at least you won't be getting sick of playing the same game over & over.

Leeram · Post by **Leeram** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:40 pm

Currently running at 17 votes to 14 in favour of Mushi.

I never even considered EspGaluda because I don't already own it. I can't justify buying another Cave shmup, no matter how good, without at least having a proper assault on the first two.

I favoured Mushi, but Plasmo's post stuck in my mind.

Finish the Job..

Good point, maybe playing Mushi is just taking the easy way out of DOJ, chickening out if you will, developing a yellow streak, feeling the Cave induced fear, turning tail and running, my ample belly is yellow, I am not a number - I am a free mouse, Brave Brave Brave Brave Sir Robin!!

My mind is made up, DOJ it is.

Thanks everyone.

Cheers

Leeram

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 7:45 pm

Best of luck to ya, sir.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:03 pm

!
Excellent you are one brave person!
NEVER GIVE UP!

PaCrappa · Post by **PaCrappa** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:08 pm

That's certainly the hardcore route. Good luck out there.

Pa

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:40 am

I am going back and forth playing each right now. But Mushi edges out DOJ out slightly in overall enjoyment. Mushi is a challenging shmup but isn't frustrating like DOJ can be. So I voted Mushi.

I just want to be able to 1CC DOJ someday I know my limits.

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:42 am

welcome to the house of 1000 broken combos leeram

enjoy your stay

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:43 pm

I feel like I have accomplished something when I can string a 100+ combo.

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