Bought a SONY PVM-14L5 toay! Need your commnets please!

[c0dehunter]

Hello all,
Well, I had to retire my PVM-2030 and make room for newly purchased SONY PVM-14L5. It is superbly clean system (build date Jan 2005), came from a non-smoking environment, original owner, and came with its original box and manual! The seller asked for $275 and allowed me to spend almost an hour to play with it before I finally made up my mind!

OK, I have already connected my PS2 and GameCube using Component cables (via BNC adapters) to this monitor, and the image quality is phenomenal.

The thing I need to understand is, how can I get RGB signal from these consoles, do I need to get a RGB Scart to Sony PVM Monitor Converter (BNC):



Do I need anything extra (sync striker, or additional part/add-ons) for getting an RGB image?

And then for each console get its own RGB to SCART cable?

PS1 RGB to SCART


PS2 RGB to SCART


GameCube RGB to SCART


2) How can I adjust the geometry, size, position and other picture aspects on my PVM-14L5

3) Is there going to be a huge difference between Component and RGB on PVM-14L5? I mean the image quality and the pronounced scanlines on this monitor (both PS2 and GameCube) are amazing, so much so that if I didn't know that it was connected via component cables, I would have thought it was a RGB.

4) Necronopticous is correct when he says that 14" is a pretty descent size, since I have been using my Commodore 1084-S for a long time, and I never regarded its image size too small.

Thanks for your kind comments and recommendations.

[NWrain]

Congratulations on your new purchase!

Only the Euro-Pal Game Cubes are capable of RGB. If you all ready have the very rare Game Cube component cable, I would just continue to use that.

For PS2, the official PS1 cable you have pictured is wired for Japanese pinout. If you want to use that "RGB Scart to Sony PVM Monitor Converter (BNC)" cable, I would get a Euro scart cable. I believe if you use Scart RGB for the PS2, you are stuck with 480i as your max resolution. Use the component cables and RCA-BNC adapters for 480P.

In this situation, you don't need a Sync Strike.

That Game Cube RGB cable you have pictured is actually a Super Famicom (SNES) cable.

For my PVM-M2MDU, to enter the service mode I had to press Menu, while in the menu push Enter and Degauss. Be sure to keep note of your original settings.

[Fudoh]

In general: if you have component cables for a system already, you don't need to "upgrade" to RGBs.

If you decide to go to RGB make sure to get scart cables with european pinout matching the Scart/BNC adapter.

[c0dehunter]

Thanks. I tried the MENU, DEGAUSS, but it didn't do anything. I wonder how can I change the screen size or geometry on this CRT?

[c0dehunter]

In general: if you have component cables for a system already, you don't need to "upgrade" to RGBs.

If you decide to go to RGB make sure to get scart cables with european pinout matching the Scart/BNC adapter.

The question is: Isn't RGB superior to Component?

I mean the whole point of me getting this CRT was to utilize the best image possible out of it.

[fagin]

Component and RGB (as you're referring to here) should offer the same video quality.

[Fudoh]

maybe you mistake component and composite ? Component's the one with three connectors for video (red/green/blue) and composite is the one with just yellow for video....

[c0dehunter]

No, I am very well aware of that, but I was under impression that RGB is a tad better than Component (although both have separate R, G, B, signals).

So are you saying that they are the same?

[Fudoh]

theoretically RGBs is a tiny bit better. No color compression, three color channels instead of two, but in real life, it does not justify the upgrade. Especially not since you use a L5 and with RGB you lose the capability to use 480p from your systems.

[c0dehunter]

It is interesting to note that when I play PS1 games using my PS2 (connected via Component cables this monitor), the game image is very stable (that is not interlacing it noticeable, since my eyes can see these flickers).

[Fudoh]

certainly. 99% of the PS1 games are 240p, while 98% of the PS2 games are 480i.

[c0dehunter]

I see, thanks!

[c0dehunter]

Does anyone know which cable do I need to connect this CRT to a modern PC?

I am thinking about this cable:



http://www.allaboutadapters.com/15vgato5bncr.html

I have found cables WITHOUT the HSync and VSync connectors



(basically R,G,B, instead of 5), do these cable work for me, or do I absolutely need the H and V connectors as well?

I appreciate your comments.

[Fudoh]

The L5 does not support direct RGBHV input, right ? So none of these cables would work. A VGA to component transcoder would certainly work. I don't know if 480p in RGBs is supported, if yes, you need a custom cable with some sync processing.

[kamiboy]

Actually all you need is the first cable and a simple adapter to combine the H & V signals into one and insert it into the external sync input of the L5. Then you just have to select 640x480 or, I assume, 1280x720 as output resolutions on your PC.

Also remember to push the external sync button on the CRT so it knows to use it as its sync source.



I am not sure how the latter cable works. Does it just route the H & V sync into the green output?

In that case it might work as I assume not picking external sync on the L5 results in it trying sync on green.

[Fudoh]

Does it just route the H & V sync into the green output?

no, it does not transport sync at all.

[camredfield]

Just to clarify, I think it doesn't combine the sync because the bottom cable is SVGA to component BNC rather than RGBHV. I could be wrong though.

[Fudoh]

the bottom one is a component breakout cable for HD15 ports that deliver YUV already (or RGsB).

[c0dehunter]

Hello,
I am about to get a SCART RGB cable for my Sega Saturn (US, NTSC, model 2) and I needed your opinion:


This is a thread that I found:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthrea ... B-Question


I have a Sony PVM-2030 and a PVM-14L5. My favorite and most used among the two is PVM-14L5: I have already purchased a Scart to BNC cable for this monitor:
http://www.retrogamingcables.com/sony-p ... r-bnc.html

I need to know two things:

1) What RGB Scart cable do I need for my Saturt?
2) Do I need to modify my US Satrun for this purpose, or would it work?
http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4236.0

I am thinking about getting this cable:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Sega-Saturn-RGB- ... 25688aa24a

Please let me know!

[c0dehunter]

I found this:

http://www.retrorgb.com/Saturn
http://www.retro-access.com/ourshop/pro ... aturn.html

The thing that I don't understand is that first it advertises a RGB cable for Saturn on the top of his page,but in the middle and the end of his article says that it is only good for model 2.

This is what he says and I quote:

"The first thing I noticed was that if you use a raw sync cable with a Model 2, it produces weird horizontal lines on the screen. I made sure to test it on a friend’s Model 2, just to make sure there wasn’t a problem with my Saturn, but the same thing happened."

What does he mean by RAW sync, does he mean RGB?

He goes on to add:


"In conclusion, here’s what I suggest:

- Get a regular (composite) sync cable. There's barely a difference between the two cables on the Model 1 and the Model 2 obviously has issues with the raw sync. I have also heard that there are issues with some Japanese versions of the Saturn using raw sync, so it’s best to just stick with regular, composite sync."

Is this true? I have a model 2 and I want to be able to use RGB and get the same SCART RGB for it.

None of the websites or sellers on the eBay that sell Saturn RGB claim that their cable is ONLY good for model 1, so I assume these cables would work just fine on Model 2s as well. (

Please let me know!

[fagin]

Raw sync is composite sync as opposed to composite video for sync.

I've never heard that using raw sync will induce jailbars... it's normally the other way round.

[c0dehunter]

So can i connect my Saturn using an RGB cable then?

[fagin]

Yes, but it depends as to which type of sync signal requires, which may mean you need a certain type of SCART RGB cable.

[BuckoA51]

I'm using Raw Sync with my Model 2 Saturn and the picture's fine, no jailbars at all. I found using raw sync cleared up that dot crawl effect you get on certain colours, and of course the XRGB3 needs raw sync to avoid the screen blanking issue.

I doubt however that there will be any difference at all between composite video for sync and raw sync on something like a CRT.