Ikegami TM14-2RH: R-Y, B-Y signal? *and some general monitor

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Ikegami TM14-2RH: R-Y, B-Y signal? *and some general monitor

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I'm familiar with setting up certain "pro" monitors to use with older systems and output a higher quality by using RGB (connecting the scart of a console to a breakout board that takes the scart signal and transfers it to RGB (also most of these modules do VGA), which can go into these types of monitors.

The monitor I just got only has R-Y and B-Y Bnc's though, and I'm not quite sure what that means. I also cannot find a manual of my model (Ikegami TM14-2RH). I did plug in my Saturn using a BNC to RCA on the bottom two input slots, and I get a picture (that happens to differ when I switch from HI - 75 ohm).

My questions are...
How does this whole R-Y and B-Y thing work in regards to gaming?
What would I need to do to get a proper RGB signal, or anything really (other than straight component)?
Does that 60 label on the back possibly mean that it outputs a different voltage than the other input?
What difference does the HI - 75 ohm switch do?
Can I still take a sort of breakout box so I can hook up my computer to it through VGA?

Eventually my goal is to be able to output RGB signals and also acquire a way to attach my computer to it and use MAME. If anyone has any advice it would be much appreciated, and thanks for the info I've gotton so far on the forums.


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if anyone knows how to fix this I can change it so they are instantly viewable
just don't upload 7MP images....
The monitor I just got only has R-Y and B-Y Bnc's though, and I'm not quite sure what that means.
your monitor should support both, RGBs and YUV (component video) - at least that's what the controls suggest. If you set the sync switch to EXT, it's RGBs. If you set it to INT, it's component video. R-Y and B-Y and the two color channels "U" and "V" of the component signal.

Please post a normally sized image with all the connections in ONE photo.
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Fudoh wrote:
The monitor I just got only has R-Y and B-Y Bnc's though, and I'm not quite sure what that means.
your monitor should support both, RGBs and YUV (component video) - at least that's what the controls suggest. If you set the sync switch to EXT, it's RGBs. If you set it to INT, it's component video. R-Y and B-Y and the two color channels "U" and "V" of the component signal.
I don't think this is consumer component video. The monitor is designed to to display the output from the camera in a TV station which probably isn't normalised. There's no sign of an RGB connection in those (rather poor) photos.
camredfield wrote:What difference does the HI - 75 ohm switch do? Can I still take a sort of breakout box so I can hook up my computer to it through VGA.
This monitor is only designed for a TV camera, not an IBM computer! The high impedance switch is for connecting multiple monitors to a single video source.
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Alright, thanks for the help with the images.
I don't think this is consumer component video. The monitor is designed to to display the output from the camera in a TV station which probably isn't normalised. There's no sign of an RGB connection in those (rather poor) photos.
No, not consumer, but it's referred to as component, which confused me at first. About the RGB connection, though, that's what I thought, but I'm thinking, when you said this Fudoh....
your monitor should support both, RGBs and YUV (component video) - at least that's what the controls suggest. If you set the sync switch to EXT, it's RGBs. If you set it to INT, it's component video. R-Y and B-Y and the two color channels "U" and "V" of the component signal.
...are the U and V inputs located where the 2 inputs are below sync (on the largest picture)? If not, I don't understand where the RGB would be. I understand now how to switch between RGB and component, but where exactly would the RGB jacks go?

Also, viletim, if it would help, I can take a better picture of just the back of the television, with inputs and outputs.
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The SONY PVM L series uses the same inputs for RGB and component. Similar to this you have to switch manually between the two yourself though an option. Thus logic dictates your component inputs also act as your RGB inputs.

You simply route the red signal to R-Y, and the Blue to B-Y.
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just confusing that it says OUT above the connectors on top.
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Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. There should be a set next to them labelled "IN".

Maybe the TV has no RGB/Component input but is capable of outputting the results of its comb filter. Or maybe that unit is just missing the input board.
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GAH, ah god I feel stupid now that you put it that way. Thanks, I understand know. when I said I was 'familiar' with these types of monitors it was kind of based on having a friend who has one, but after reading the boards for a few more days and looking at different setups/explanations I definitely got a better grasp of what was up with all the inputs. Thanks again for answering!
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