Raiden Legacy -- New iOS/Android Collection from DotEMU

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I'm finding the lagging/unresponsiveness stands out more on slower ships?
Also, every so often my ship gets "stuck" right at the bottom of my ipad screen
Which is as annoying as fook when you have just nailed a good run.

Still a steal at 2.99.... So tempted to buy an icade.
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A bit of a general question on the iCade systems: how long is the actual input lag using the iCade ? In the videos I saw on Youtube (not with Raiden, but mostly with the Atari stuff) it often looks quite extreme. Some to extend that when the users changes from rapidly from left to the right, the on-screen action nearly inverts the movement.
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i havent bought it. my prepaid credit card had luckily run out of funds. Than i watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0nRjmZuKO0
And oh boy do i have some questions:

why the hell is the plane following BEHiND the finger? In each game. Are these the times of quake when u had to calculate the lag of 56k modem and do actions in a preemptive way? Why nobody except cave and taito gives a fvck about the most important aspect of a game? or even comprehend its meaning.

im not mentioning buttons positioned awkwardly (TOO HiGH), being pressed accidently all the time on the video.

What about a sound? there is a lot of glitches starting right from the plane selection, during the game i hear a horrible mix of effects vs music. (strikers anybody?) Maybe its youtube but i doubt it. if the mix was right, the recording would sound right too.

Anyway, i got what a expected. What anybody would expect being taught by the marvelously rich and harsh experience of the past ios "ports". it pains the real fans though to see that their beloved games are being raped and given a half-(quarter)-hearted treatment.
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What about a sound? i heard a lot of glitche, i hear a bad mix of effects vs music. (maybe its youtube but i doubt it. if the mix was right, the recording would sound right too).
That's what I've been getting in all of the games, but especially in Raiden. Random explosions playing when they shouldn't be and music/video going wonky for framerate.

Regarding the buttons, to be fair, you can adjust them to precisely where you want them by moving them around.
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thanks . what about the reaction time? i see the plane LAGGiNG behind the finger. Sorry for double asking but its so horrible i refuse to accept the fact. i rather want to believe its the guy's camera :D or vertical sync . or else...
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I haven't tried the slow ships but I found the control responses to be okay with the Judge Spear, could be a limiter thing, or possibly non-relative touch controls ala Cave (so he's deliberately making it offset to the finger by a certain amount) - this I'm not sure about. I'm running it on an iPhone 4G for the record.

EDIT: posted another message on Raiden Games' Facebook page. This time I got a response:
Raiden Games (Official) Yes, we are actually working on it
Let's see if we get a patch fixing that soon. :)
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Wow, that's the first video I've seen of the game running on an iPhone
Is everyone's as choppy as that?
It plays waaaaaaaay smoother on the ipad.

Glad to here there's a patch on the way though the unresponsiveness is
My excuse for not being able to 1cc the game, blown it soon :D
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BPzeBanshee wrote: EDIT: posted another message on Raiden Games' Facebook page. This time I got a response:
Raiden Games (Official) Yes, we are actually working on it
Let's see if we get a patch fixing that soon. :)
I really hope that's the good news I want it to be!
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how much more is everyone restarting raiden fighters
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Getting my iCade tomorrow so I can't wait to try it with RL. :-)
So excited.
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Was Raiden DX and 2 ever playable on MAME, is there any other emulators that play the arcade version?.

I have the PSX collection but not sure how good/close Raiden DX and 2 are on the Sony machine??
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lettuce wrote:Was Raiden DX and 2 ever playable on MAME, is there any other emulators that play the arcade version?
If they were there wouldn't be an entire, 2.5-year-old blog dedicated to emulating them.
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gs68 wrote:
lettuce wrote:Was Raiden DX and 2 ever playable on MAME, is there any other emulators that play the arcade version?
If they were there wouldn't be an entire, 2.5-year-old blog dedicated to emulating them.
Wasnt aware of such a project
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Raiden DX is playable in MAME on Earth-358. MAME team on Earth Prime has been slacking off! Earth-358 sounds like a fun place, there are no gambling machines or pins there.

Edit: Actually, I just discovered that their version of Raiden DX was made by Comad :oops:
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Ed Oscuro wrote:Raiden DX is playable in MAME on Earth-358. MAME team on Earth Prime has been slacking off! Earth-358 sounds like a fun place, there are no gambling machines or pins there.

Edit: Actually, I just discovered that their version of Raiden DX was made by Comad :oops:

Errr what???
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Got this email after a bit of Facebook pestering:
Hi,

Thank you for your feedback, I am Christian Cortez and I am one of the developers of Raiden Legacy. I am sorry for the late response, your message was in the Spam folder, that's why we did not see it at first.

For the performance and sound issues, we are aware of the problem. Raiden Legacy is a very challenging project and we worked really hard to improve the game performances. Unfortunately, we know there are still issues on iPhones 3GS and 4 (and also iPod Touch 4Gen). We are still working on it, but we can't promise that there will be a significant improve.

For the 5 lives, it is a choice we made in order to set the game easier for new players. We did not want them to have the continue screen every minutes, that's why we decided to add 5 lives per credits.
We know that this is a difference with the original games, but we are trying to target all the players, hardcore players and also beginners.

Best Regards,

Christian
I replied suggesting to make Hard mode use the 3 lives, making it like Cave's Hard/arcade modes on iOS. Looks like we may never get a performance fix for this though.
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Over on Facebook, they're teasing some sort of surprise to be announced on Friday:

https://www.facebook.com/RaidenGamesOfficial

Some people seem to think it might be Viper Phase 1.
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I hope not. They'll screw that one up too. :|
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http://www.dotemu.com/en/contest/raiden ... y-m-hamada

And it's a competition. Get the highest score on Arcade, Hard mode that you can get through GameCenter and win a prize if you get into the top 3. I gotta say, I'm liking the prizes.
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How is iCade support after the update? I'm about to pull the trigger on this because I have a big boy iCade on the way and I need something other than Blazing Star to play. ;)
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Haven't yet played any game on the iCade, where the lag wasn't unbearable, but I guess Raiden could be the one :)
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Oh the hell with it. I cant say no to $1.99. I bought it. If the iCade support happens to suck it's still pretty fun with touch controls.
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Just finished a half hour session with Raiden Legacy and my big boy iCade. If it lags, I can't tell.

Fantastic collection. Buy the fuck out of it.

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Ed Oscuro wrote:Raiden DX is playable in MAME on Earth-358. MAME team on Earth Prime has been slacking off! Earth-358 sounds like a fun place, there are no gambling machines or pins there.

Edit: Actually, I just discovered that their version of Raiden DX was made by Comad :oops:
XD Nediar no playable Bizarro World. No made by Ubies. No play on EMAM.
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Raiden Legacy is ON SALE!

Only $0.99 today! :D
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/raiden- ... 80156?mt=8
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It's DotEmu, which means it's not even worth a dollar. Stick to MAME, Raiden Project and/or Raiden Fighters Aces.
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DotEmu wrote:Last question, what would be your best arcade shmup you'd like to see on smartphones?
If you have to choose "THE ONE" :)
I feel I might get a grilling for mentioning this: but a Parodius game, particularly Parodius Da! / Fantastic journey.

A lot of people don't take scoring on shmups all that seriously. Likewise, Parodius is a series that isn't about being serious. It's about pure, clean, barmy, smiling from ear to ear fun. I'm sure, what with cartoony style games like Angry Birds being all the rage on phones, Parodius would be right at home.

Of course, getting the rights from a company like Konami could be difficult...

Well, my two cents.
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Parodius (particularly Sexy) is too Japanese, absurd, and lewd to catch the interest of the Angry Birds crowd. Not to mention hard...there's no easy credit feeding with checkpoints.
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