Raiden Fanfiction/Anime

[BPzeBanshee]

Look harder. There's a carrier-like ship in Stage 1 with parts blown out of it on the ground, and a water-filled explosion hole in Raiden 2/DX.

[Obiwanshinobi]

There's a carrier-like ship in Stage 1 with parts blown out of it on the ground, and a water-filled explosion hole in Raiden 2/DX.

I take your word for it, but sounds like an afterthought to make those who care feel less awkward. Kind of like the 2nd plane being blue after all.
Not that I would guess what beef Ikaruga folks have with all those machines, but Ikaruga officially has a story, so there's little left for me to guess.

[KAI]

雷電II ストーリー:

世界連合軍の誇る超高空戦闘爆撃機"雷電"と外宇宙生命体との戦闘から三年後・・・ 一時は勢力を弱めた外宇宙生命体が再び強大な戦力を取り戻し、戦闘はさらに激化、次第に制圧されていく地球。

この危機を打ち砕くため、世界連合軍は機動性をさらにアップし、新兵器である"プラズマレーザー"、"拡散ボンバー"を搭載した"雷電II"を開発。 人類の未来を賭け、再び外宇宙生命体に立ち向かっていく。

Bla bla extraterrestrials, bla bla Plasma Laser, bla bla Fuckin' huge explosions...

It says nothing about 12 years old girls TT__________TT

[Captain]

So you're basically saying that you hate how the earth actually fought back the aliens more easily in Raiden?

[EmperorIng]

I mean, the world of Gun Frontier looks troubled to me.

That's because the Wild Lizads nosed out all the space gold.

And not a single piece of bread was given!

[trap15]

A Gun Frontier anime would be the tits

[Captain]

Which reminds me:
Metal Black is the epitome of war-torn shmups. (aliens included!)

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

It is possible there's a lot more to Raiden's story in Japanese material like the book you linked to, EFJP. Xevious also had only a blurb for its story in English, yet a whole novel in Japan. However, I get the feeling that Raiden's devs just didn't care much about story. The numbered games don't seem to have an arc, Cranassians just attack for time number x and the Raidens beat them back. Raiden Fighters has a few more plot points, but it wasn't until the second game that anyone even bothered saying what we were fighting for in the first.

In regards to there possibly being more to the story, I am going to assume that the hidden underground radar towers and gold pyramids in Raiden DX suggest that maybe the Cranassians were here on Earth way before humans were. Which reminds me of the storyline of Resistance: Fall of Man. Also, I am guessing that the Raiden Fighters series' story takes place before the original series, given the setting and enemies faced. However I cannot think of a possible explanation for the future fighters being in the game, storywise. In Raiden Fighters 2, judging from the markings on the MK-II and MK-II Beta, you are playing as a United Nations pilot.

[Captain]

It is possible there's a lot more to Raiden's story in Japanese material like the book you linked to, EFJP. Xevious also had only a blurb for its story in English, yet a whole novel in Japan. However, I get the feeling that Raiden's devs just didn't care much about story. The numbered games don't seem to have an arc, Cranassians just attack for time number x and the Raidens beat them back. Raiden Fighters has a few more plot points, but it wasn't until the second game that anyone even bothered saying what we were fighting for in the first.

In regards to there possibly being more to the story, I am going to assume that the hidden underground radar towers and gold pyramids in Raiden DX suggest that maybe the Cranassians were here on Earth way before humans were. Which reminds me of the storyline of Resistance: Fall of Man. Also, I am guessing that the Raiden Fighters series' story takes place before the original series, given the setting and enemies faced. However I cannot think of a possible explanation for the future fighters being in the game, storywise. In Raiden Fighters 2, judging from the markings on the MK-II and MK-II Beta, you are playing as a United Nations pilot.

Skyknight probably has it all figured out by now.

Xeno fighters involves constant time travel

You have your answer.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

Skyknight probably has it all figured out by now.

What exactly do you mean by this?

Xeno fighters involves constant time travel

Time travel... I forgot about that in Xeno Fighters.

You have your answer.

[Captain]

What exactly do you mean by this?

I mean that thats your other "hint" other than the time travel present in XF

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

Look harder. There's a carrier-like ship in Stage 1 with parts blown out of it on the ground, and a water-filled explosion hole in Raiden 2/DX.

Don't forget the desolate wasteland with burned out houses right before the stage 2 boss in DX and the ruins in stage 4.

Played 1 and DX, but I don't recall anything of the sort. No ruins, no heavy industry pumping out all those machines (whereas Garegga gives me the impression of some war effort going down there).
I didn't see a country at real war, but I have some expectations that Raiden doesn't meet. I mean, the world of Gun Frontier looks troubled to me. The world of Raiden does not.
Look at the city of Raiden, then the city of Varth.

Ok, so the visuals don't evoke a feeling of being at war, but a good majority of the music tracks have a sad, melancholic feel to them that sets the mood.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

What exactly do you mean by this?

I mean that thats your other "hint" other than the time travel present in XF

Ok thanks for clarifying.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

Though if you came up with some palatable explanation why the plane is RED, I'd be mighty impressed.

Here, a NON-RED Raiden jet, just for you.

[Mortificator]

I am going to assume that the hidden underground radar towers and gold pyramids in Raiden DX suggest that maybe the Cranassians were here on Earth way before humans were.

DX's hidden Sol radars were almost certainly inspired by the Sol Citadels in Xevious, where the invaders turn out to be the original inhabitants of Earth. Whether Raiden's Sols have story significance or are just an homage is up to you, however.

[KAI]

A Gun Frontier anime would be the tits

Needs more flying ships.

[trap15]

gunfrontier.jpg

I figured someone would mention that :V

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

I am going to assume that the hidden underground radar towers and gold pyramids in Raiden DX suggest that maybe the Cranassians were here on Earth way before humans were.

DX's hidden Sol radars were almost certainly inspired by the Sol Citadels in Xevious, where the invaders turn out to be the original inhabitants of Earth. Whether Raiden's Sols have story significance or are just an homage is up to you, however.

That's a great idea! I loved the story in Resistance: Fall of Man, even though it left a lot to be desired and discovered, so I will have the Sols play a key role in the story.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Ok, so the visuals don't evoke a feeling of being at war, but a good majority of the music tracks have a sad, melancholic feel to them that sets the mood.

Dunno, like which one? Subjective, to say the least. To me, Gun Frontier is about the only shmup where music evokes sadness (not really typical of the genre). Typical of Taito, though.

[ondafly]

Perhaps in Raiden we are the invading force

I would love to get my hands on the 88 page booklet from The Aces High superplay and somehow get it translated. There has to be something in there about the storyline. As you can see in one of the pics, there is a a guy who looks like he is a aircraft mechanic or flight controller, which means there might be more characters.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthre ... 2056524387

Andrew76 will be chuffed to see himself getting a mention - I've pointed him at this thread, so perhaps he might have an insight !

[Captain]

Ok, so the visuals don't evoke a feeling of being at war, but a good majority of the music tracks have a sad, melancholic feel to them that sets the mood.

Dunno, like which one? Subjective, to say the least. To me, Gun Frontier is about the only shmup where music evokes sadness (not really typical of the genre). Typical of Taito, though.

Seems like I have to mention Metal Black again.

It's called "project Gun Frontier 2" for a reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPf6BuYvlKo

This also has a Zero Wing vibe to me.

[Gespenst]

I am going to assume that the hidden underground radar towers and gold pyramids in Raiden DX suggest that maybe the Cranassians were here on Earth way before humans were.

DX's hidden Sol radars were almost certainly inspired by the Sol Citadels in Xevious, where the invaders turn out to be the original inhabitants of Earth. Whether Raiden's Sols have story significance or are just an homage is up to you, however.

And fairies

That's reminds me of the Raiden III's rather atambiguous ending though.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Seems like I have to mention Metal Black again.

It's called "project Gun Frontier 2" for a reason.

Metal Black is more typical Taito in my book. Most of the time I barely notice the music, but there are moments when it catches me off guard (whereas Gun Frontier OST sounds narrative all the time - I fall for it, but I'm not sure if that's the way music SHOULD work in games).

Raiden has some of the most memorable tunes around, but it's meant to get you pumped rather than make one shed a tear. Typical shmup fare in that respect.
What's unusual is that's there is no sign whatsoever that we are the good guys defending something. Or avengers for that matter. I remember the water-filled crater now, but it looked so much like a pit dug to build something upon or a water basin that I didn't think "war" when I saw it.



The job you do leaves less bucolic sights along your path.

[Captain]

What's unusual is that's there is no sign whatsoever that we are the good guys defending something. Or avengers for that matter.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

Ok, so the visuals don't evoke a feeling of being at war, but a good majority of the music tracks have a sad, melancholic feel to them that sets the mood.

Dunno, like which one? Subjective, to say the least. To me, Gun Frontier is about the only shmup where music evokes sadness (not really typical of the genre). Typical of Taito, though.

Listen to these.
Listen to the songs I posted in this thread http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... &start=300
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6VBwv2T86Q 0:57-1:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuLxd5GDtQ

Gun Frontier is not the only one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N13jug0oMbA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VxePBsdM3Q

Although developed by Visco, but published by Taito, Ashura Blaster has some melancholy tracks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Nb3E-OqJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kkNNpsFpE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVqj7ZdrhPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rihLo-GbevU

And fairies

That's reminds me of the Raiden III's rather atambiguous ending though.

That's exactly what I have been wondering about for so long. Judging from that ending scene, I am guessing that the Fighting Thunder ME-02 was actually the spirit of the fairy, and when it is about to land, and it turns into the fairy, the crashed jet on the ground is the Raiden MK-II from the classic games. I am also willing to bet that this is the same location from Raiden 1; near the first stage boss, you can see a crashed Raiden jet in the dirt.

[opt2not]

Possible reasoning you could write in to why the Raiden ship is red: the Raiden ships are supposed to be these badass state-of-the-art fighters right? Then it stands to reason that bright colours draws more attention, so why not have the badass fighters draw all the attention from enemy attackers while the rest of the military have more reprieve from the onslaught.

If you put together a short story, you will need to have a multitude of characters, not just the pilot of Raiden. Having some characters in the regular human forces would add more scenerio depth.

You could come up with an explanation to the Red and Blue ship differences that involve the bomb choices, or even the forward/back, lateral movement differences.

Just some ideas for you to think about.

[trap15]

If you have to make up so much additional shit, why even bother to tie it directly to Raiden? Just write a series of short stories, or a novel, or whatever, and then just drop in little callbacks to Raiden (name some huge "boss" enemies something similar to Raiden bosses maybe?).

[ciox]

Listen to these.
Listen to the songs I posted in this thread http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... &start=300
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6VBwv2T86Q 0:57-1:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuLxd5GDtQ

Gun Frontier is not the only one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N13jug0oMbA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VxePBsdM3Q

Although developed by Visco, but published by Taito, Ashura Blaster has some melancholy tracks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Nb3E-OqJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kkNNpsFpE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVqj7ZdrhPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rihLo-GbevU

Not bad, but I wonder if this can be beat: Gluon

[Captain]

Gluon can beat Gluon.

[ciox]

Gluon can beat Gluon.

Not for that sad bereavement feeling it can't
But it's a good trump card, the high point of the sequel.

There's a ton of melancholy tracks in the Psyvariar games in general, I imagine that decision came to the devs naturally since the game is a lot more non-hostile than most shmups.