Under Defeat HD
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EmperorIng
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Man, this New Order soundtrack is sooooo good. I love how the stage 1 BGM plays during the boss fight, and the slower st2 remix.

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Not too sure about this yet. I like the old-school kind of vibe, the pared-back weaponry, and the straight-ahead scoring.
I don't like being sniped by enemies that are only half on-screen, or it fact being scrolled off, the slight pause before bullets actually hit your level, and the way the game will absolutely ream you unless you have the option ready to roll at exactly the right moment.
Just finally worked out a pretty fail-safe method for the second boss, managed to hit the latter half of ST3 yesterday with some 750k after a few credits, but it's been a long, long time since I turned a shooter off in a black rage because it 'wasn't playing fucking fair' ha.
And fuck that New order mode. Eugh.
I don't like being sniped by enemies that are only half on-screen, or it fact being scrolled off, the slight pause before bullets actually hit your level, and the way the game will absolutely ream you unless you have the option ready to roll at exactly the right moment.
Just finally worked out a pretty fail-safe method for the second boss, managed to hit the latter half of ST3 yesterday with some 750k after a few credits, but it's been a long, long time since I turned a shooter off in a black rage because it 'wasn't playing fucking fair' ha.
And fuck that New order mode. Eugh.
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Just can't get my head around the hitbox in this game, man...
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^^ hitbox is just around the rotor blades central mount. It is a bit bigger than traditional ones as you've probably noticed 

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You see it flashing at the start of the level
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Thanks for the tips... I didn't realise it flashed at the start...
it being bigger I can handle, it just seems like, I dunno... like sometimes I get hit and I'm "the fuck that hit me!"
Also, the number of times a bullet misses me but I manage to dodge back into it...
GNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Still wanting to get back home and play it again, though!
it being bigger I can handle, it just seems like, I dunno... like sometimes I get hit and I'm "the fuck that hit me!"
Also, the number of times a bullet misses me but I manage to dodge back into it...
GNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Still wanting to get back home and play it again, though!
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Best way to go ever. Brings back memories of Psyvariar.Stevas wrote:Also, the number of times a bullet misses me but I manage to dodge back into it...
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Obiwanshinobi
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So that other thing that is modern about Under Defeat are slow bullets? Good to know.Stevas wrote:Also, the number of times a bullet misses me but I manage to dodge back into it...
GNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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It's not so much that they're slow, it's that they don't travel uniformly. They either start off slow and speed up, or start fast and slown down. With the latter types, it's incredibly easy to reflex dodge a bullet, go "phew", then stupidly dodge back into it.
I've also found I'm often circling a bullet as it goes down the screen, with my brain screaming "shit, it got me - oh, it didn't" over and over.
As I say, the hitbox is messing with my head a little.
I've also found I'm often circling a bullet as it goes down the screen, with my brain screaming "shit, it got me - oh, it didn't" over and over.
As I say, the hitbox is messing with my head a little.
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I haven't seen anyone mention this yet... are the score-boards for the EU release segregated or are they integrated with the preexisting JP boards?
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Id guess separate as im sitting at about 15th with 750k on arcade mode.
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Klatrymadon
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Yeah, definitely separate. I was #1 for a wee period in the first couple of days, and there were only 20-30 entries.
(I don't think there have been any 1CCs yet, either. I'm working on it, though!)

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Gonna get this in da mail bawx early next week.
Really pepped.
If nothing else it's got both Hosoe and Yasui.
Really pepped.
If nothing else it's got both Hosoe and Yasui.

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Yes, that's why I imported the Japanese one very early this year and bought the PAL version too. New Order music by Yousuke Yasui and the original Arcade songs by Shinji Hosoe! Love those compositions and instruments~ :3
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People LIKE that New Order soundtrack... Fuck.
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Super Laydock
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Ooh this turned out to be a great buy.
Had been tempted to buy the JP version, but price-wise I'm glad I waited.
Great value for money and the first good use of my Tate-able Syncmaster 2494HM.
And for the record... the New Order soundtrack isn't half bad either (though I don't play that mode now I can Tate
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Had been tempted to buy the JP version, but price-wise I'm glad I waited.
Great value for money and the first good use of my Tate-able Syncmaster 2494HM.
And for the record... the New Order soundtrack isn't half bad either (though I don't play that mode now I can Tate

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Not the most interesting question, but when you pin this to the dashboard, does it show the cover art? I've tried it several times, here, and it still doesn't, even though the cover art is definitely available (it's displayed in 'My Games')...
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Wish I'd seen this ad a bit sooner, as it reveals that the US release of this game will only be available via Amazon (unless this was already announced someplace and I missed it). In any event, my copy is ordered, and will hopefully arrive as quickly as cheap-o shipping can carry it, heh.
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So, they're basically not even making an attempt to market it in stores? I guess it'll be cheaper for them to sell it this way though...BulletMagnet wrote:Wish I'd seen this ad a bit sooner, as it reveals that the US release of this game will only be available via Amazon (unless this was already announced someplace and I missed it). In any event, my copy is ordered, and will hopefully arrive as quickly as cheap-o shipping can carry it, heh.
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Super Laydock
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At least it gets a physical distribution, so show your support by getting this version.BareknuckleRoo wrote: So, they're basically not even making an attempt to market it in stores? I guess it'll be cheaper for them to sell it this way though...
Here, in the Netherlands, no major (online) stores carry the game. But most independent game shops do, so at least it is non exclusive.
Here it's 10 euro cheaper for a physical copy than the digital (PSN) one too btw...

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For some weird reason, the PS Vita / PS3 version of Sine Mora contains Wilhelmina Muller from Under Defeat.


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It costs $10 more at amazon.ca for $39.99, the BS Canada Tax 

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Aww, not announced for the XBLA version?Friendly wrote:For some weird reason, the PS Vita / PS3 version of Sine Mora contains Wilhelmina Muller from Under Defeat.
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I really can't blame them, considering how many unsold copies of Raiden IV, Deathsmiles et al continue to cast shadows across Gamestop's shelf space...physical copies of some of the recent DJ Max games have only been made available online in the US, so they're hardly the first to do this. I do wish they'd been a bit clearer concerning the avenues they did plan to use, though...maybe retailer exclusivity wasn't the original intention?BareknuckleRoo wrote:So, they're basically not even making an attempt to market it in stores? I guess it'll be cheaper for them to sell it this way though...
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Out now in North America for PS3! Dontcha all forget 

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Not out in Canada yetRSG_Spoonparty wrote:Out now in North America for PS3! Dontcha all forget

I'll try to buy it still... many thanks to your team RSG_Spoonparty!
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stoneroses
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Just finished ordering from amazon.com. Finally something for the PS3 I am interested in. Always makes me feel good to support these titles when they do come out at retail.
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Can anyone confirm if the European 360 version runs on US consoles? Also, wasn't there talk of bringing the US 360 version in North America in digital form?
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Shmups released by Rising Star Games are all region locked.
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