Restart Syndrome - High Score Boards

[Erppo]

I can't think of a way that wouldn't have problems if you start looking into the actual scores. Games can have so different score progressions and it's very hard to tell how high level some board is at average. I like the idea of using only the rankings and taking the number of entries in the board into account. That is not entirely without problems either, but sounds like the best option for now.

It might also be a good idea to take games that have multiple boards into account somehow. I don't think ranks in two different modes of one game should be worth as much as ranks in two completely different games, but you could argue against this too. I'm especially thinking of the abundance of Touhou difficulty levels.

[CStarFlare]

I'm a little leery of getting too complicated with ranking scores; I think it would be best if the rules used to assign scores are fairly easy for users to understand. Otherwise I worry that it will be written off as a ranking of arbitrary numbers. It's just for fun, but I do want someone to be able to look at the ranking and plan their advancement without having a calculator handy.

How does this work for STGT? The threads I find seem to just say that they're using the same scoring method as last year's STGT. I realize it's a different environment, but curious nonetheless.

For scoring a rank based on number of entries, maybe it would work better if there were a cap in place - say, the max points you can get on any board is 20, with anyone below 20th place getting either 1 or 0 for their entry.

[CStarFlare]

Bump - I've got sitewide rankings put together. I threw together a couple other misc rankings on this page - cumulative score, number of clears, and most active scoreboards.

Considered listing the least active boards as well, but there's probably hundreds that have no entries - starting to reconsider whether adding all difficulties for console games is really necessary. Aside from the general lack of interest in anything other than default, I don't think I've really been consistent with including them in the first place.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

Since you like these score attack stage things, can we have leaderboards for

DFK Arrange B

Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 3
Stage 4
Stage 5


I know I wouldn't bother improving on my scores on any of the stages cause I don't like the mode, but I'd like to submit my scores for it at least.

[AntiFritz]

Since you like these score attack stage things, can we have leaderboards for

DFK Arrange B

Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 3
Stage 4
Stage 5


I know I wouldn't bother improving on my scores on any of the stages cause I don't like the mode, but I'd like to submit my scores for it at least.

What's wrong with here http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35484 ?

EDIT: Ignore me, I'm and idiot. I got mixed up with this thread http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43179

[Shimatora]

Loving the new site ranking addition!

[Erppo]

Yeah, this seems quit nice.

I was thinking of maybe having a second column showing the average rank in boards the user has scores in. That one has the downside of punishing people from submitting lower scores in some boards, but I think it would complement the current ranking (which works the opposite way and rewards having stuff on as many boards as possible) pretty well.

E: Thinking it more, that one is not that simple since it would get skewed a lot by boards with only 1 or 2 entries.

[CStarFlare]

Since you like these score attack stage things, can we have leaderboards for

DFK Arrange B

Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 3
Stage 4
Stage 5


I know I wouldn't bother improving on my scores on any of the stages cause I don't like the mode, but I'd like to submit my scores for it at least.

I actually don't care for it either (grinding ), but it's a valid mode. Do you think it's necessary to have boards for each stage, or just have the total? I kind of dislike the individual stage format but not sure if people who actually play it care about the individual stage rankings. I think that's the thing that caused me to skip it to begin with - I was unsure of the best way to do it so I just skipped it.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

I'm not sure which way would be best. I like the stage format better.

Really, there's not much information about the mode. Maybe it'd be more enjoyable if I knew what to do.

[Meseki]

I just figured out the cause of my issue with uploading .png files. It's caused because Internet Explorer is setting the Document Mode to Quirks Mode, probably assuming the site was designed for very early web browsers (around IE5?), and for some reason that stops me from uploading .png files, but not .bmp files. Switching the Document Mode to IE9 standards through the Developer Tools (F12) allowed me to upload .png files, but that setting resets everytime I come back in a different tab.

According to this documentation page on Internet Explorer, putting this in the website header should force Internet Explorer to use the latest Document Mode available:

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<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" >

[CStarFlare]

Thanks! Gave that a shot and that seems to have fixed the issue for new entries, but not having any luck with uploads done after the fact. Will spend some more time with that MS support page you provided and see if I can get it all wrapped up.

[Cagar]

Make the overall ranking work only in tables with over x entries?

[trap15]

Weighting based on entry counts would be better.

[Chaos Phoenixma]

Doesn't seem like there's a forgot password thing to get a new password.

I had it set to remember the password. But then my computer screwed up. Now I can't get on cause I don't remember the password and there's nothing to reset it. I'm currently using an old computer that I can't really do much with outside of browsing the Internet and playing some lower requirement stuff since the computer I was using isn't working.

[CStarFlare]

Shoot me a PM with the email address you used to register and I can reset your password for you.

[NTSC-J]

A friendly reminder that more people need to register their scores.

Also, it'd be nice if a few more games were added.

[CStarFlare]

Yeah absolutely. I kind of dropped the ball on that these last few months - I'll start going through the High Score board and pulling out games to add again.

[hail good sir]

sweater

[RNGmaster]

Hey, I'd like to update some scores but totally forgot my password. What's the protocol here?

[CStarFlare]

Check your PMs.

For everyone else, just want to say that we've got 240 games up for the moment, and I still have a decent list of things to add. (I find a lot of new titles while researching for others - many of them don't even have scoreboards here!) We'll hit 250 within the week, and there's no end in sight. If you haven't been around in a while, drop by and see what's new.

[Meseki]

I just posted two scores for Patriot Dark, but I can't submit replays because the files are .rpl files. I can't upload it in a .zip file either (on IE9 or Google Chrome), so I'm assuming it may be actually checking the archive and not finding an acceptable file type inside.

[CStarFlare]

Try again, I think I fixed the issue. I set some of the file upload parameters too tight; I expanded them a bit and I seem to be able to upload my zips.

[Squire Grooktook]

I signed in and entered my most recent scores. Cool site bro.

Ps: Maybe add Thunder Cross?

[oboewan42]

Just a small little nitpick: Jamestown ends at stage 3 on Normal, stage 4 on Difficult; Embodiment of Scarlet Devil ends on stage 5 on Easy.

Also, a question: how should continues in Jamestown be handled? The game has a hard limit of 2 continues and doesn't reset your score after each continue; instead you get a substantial end-of-level bonus for each unused credit. Effectively, it's like having 9 lives.

Finally, what about options that give score handicaps? For example, BWRP gives you a 500K bonus for each remaining life at the end of the game if you play with autoguard off, while the Touhou games give you a substantial end-of-level bonus reduction if you increase the number of starting lives, though (unlike continues or slowdown mode) it doesn't invalidate your score on the in-game leaderboards or affect your ability to save replays.

Just checking before I submit some scores that may or may not be legal. Not like I'll place very high anyway

EDIT: Also, one small bug I found: if you're logged in and you view someone else's profile, they'll show up with your initials instead of theirs. I was wondering why so many players had the initials AMW!

[CStarFlare]

Fixed Jamestown Normal and Difficult and EoSD Easy. Also fixed the initial bug - wonder when I broke that.

There aren't really any exceptions to the one credit/defaults rule. If there are situations where people think non-default settings are worth playing under, I've set up separate boards for them to preserve compatibility. For example, I think there's a game that lets you turn revenge bullets on and I set up a separate board for games where suicide bullets were on.

[oboewan42]

Cool. Just checking (new to the scene here)

[Meseki]

For RefRain ~prism memories~, Easy mode ends at Stage/Central 4, as opposed to Central 5.
Also, though probably less important (as it can be stated in the comments), I think there are three points the game can end as a clear: after Central 5 midboss, after Central 5 boss, and after Central 0 (extra boss after Central 5 boss; Re: only, I think. I haven't beat the Central 5 boss yet).

[CStarFlare]

Didn't realize the game could end in so many places. Do you know how the game determines where it will end?

[Meseki]

Didn't realize the game could end in so many places. Do you know how the game determines where it will end?

To face the Central 5 boss, you have to fill the lifebar gauge against the midboss by dealing enough damage before it finishes all of its attacks. If the gauge isn't full when the midboss is done, the Stage Clear screen appears and the game ends right there (giving a bad ending I believe).

As for the Central 0 boss, I don't know exactly how that works. From what I saw in a video, it seems it may always come after the Central 5 boss on any Re: difficulty, but I can't confirm if there's anything else to it, as I can't beat the Central 5 boss in one credit on any difficulty.

[CStarFlare]

Interesting. What does the scoreboard display when your game ends after the midboss?