Does a bigger screen size make shmups easier or harder?

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Tated 50 inch monitor cab running Battle Bakraid:

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Interesting how it looks kind of lopsided being a projection monitor in Tate and all.
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Anything from 20"-29" is fine. I don't notice too significant of a difference anywhere between those sizes. As long as you can feel it out and can see everything happening NEAR the hitbox, it's great for me.

I have to definitely agree in full about the playing near to the screen point though. You get a lot more focused and pumped up when all you see is the action.
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Man, if I had a 32 inch tate, I would be fine.
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Bigger is usually better.....
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27" seems to be good for me. But I played on a larger monitor tated (Raiden FIghters Jet) and it seemed too big. I actually had to move my head a bit up to see the incoming enemies. Didn't like that.

27 or 29 at a slight distance (1-2 feet) seems to be the best for me.
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ST Dragon wrote:Playing shooters on my 21" Stereo TV is just fine. But on my Mom's 29" TV, playing Axelay, Gaiares & Thunder Force III & RayStom, is a shocking experience indeed!
Imho anything larger than that sligthly deforms the sprites & it's harder to dodge the bullets.

BUHA wrote:I've played my PS2 and Gradius V on a 125 inch screen (I am not kidding). My friend has a projector that he plays his games and watches movies on and it takes up our WHOLE dorm living room wall. We're pretty popular around here because of it.

But back on topic. Obviously, it was just TOO big. You have to totally look all the way across the screen to see what is on the other side. and then you can't see your ship anymore, and then you can't see the bullets that are near you. I've never played any vertical games on it, his projector won't "tate". But it'd probably be pretty fun.

Playing F-Zero GX on that thing is impossible. We play it on first person mode on one of the crazier courses and it just goes too fast it makes us all want to puke. Playing 4-player split screen is chaos.
With a display of that size, playing vertical shooters in Yoko mode, is the least you should worry about ;)

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I'm with Cigs and Ex, 13" commodore. You can take in more and I like to be looking down on the screen.
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Post by ST Dragon »

You want large?
One should play Do Don Pachi, Blazing Stars, Ikaruga, Gradius V etc... on the Jumbotron in Sky Dome Stadium (Toronto/Canada).
Imagine flipping that to play in Tate mode! ;)

Now that would be some sight!
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At my local movie theater, they use TI DLP for movies now...

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At my local movie theater, they use the latest in Texas Instruments' Digital Light Projection (DLP) system to show all the latest Hollywood flicks on the big screen. I got to see a DLP version of Star Wars Episode III and the details of the background scenery were super crisp. In fact, watching the limited release of SW-Episode 3 DLP version was exclusive to the Central Valley of California. My local movie theater got exclusive rights to show it in entirely in digital format from George Lucas himself.

I can just imagine playing some of the cool horizontal or vertical arcade shmups on the kick-ass movie screen...that would be fucking cool or what!?

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Dave_K. wrote:
TalkingOctopus wrote:Another vote for larger screens make SHMUPS easier. However, they don't make all types games easier. I find robotron much more difficult on a large screen.
I agree, with your Robotron example. In that game you need to keep the entire playfield in view at all times since you are being attacked from all directions at once.
I've tried the Ultracade version of Robotron on a 33" cabinet- gah. Trying to micromanage your enemies on a 33" screen is tough unless you're far back enough to get a decent view. It's not a problem if you sit about 5' from the screen, however.

If I'm using my 19" Tate monitor, I tend to sit closer.
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been used to playing only on a 19", it was also at a low angle (classic cab), but now that i've been playing on the aero city (26 or 27" ??) i feel more involved in the game, although there have been a couple times where I've messed up because I wasn't paying attention to the top right corner of the screen. I've also beaten high scores finally. I'd say its a great size, I wouldn't want it any larger really.
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Playing on a 29" cab is so much easier for me. Solid controls/large clear display.
My recent comments on the Mushihimesama Hi-Sc thread about the PS2 Port seeming 20% harder than the PCB, are really down to the difference and benefits of playing on a large display cab.
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Re: At my local movie theater, they use TI DLP for movies no

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PC Engine Fan X! wrote:At my local movie theater, they use the latest in Texas Instruments' Digital Light Projection (DLP) system to show all the latest Hollywood flicks on the big screen. I got to see a DLP version of Star Wars Episode III and the details of the background scenery were super crisp. In fact, watching the limited release of SW-Episode 3 DLP version was exclusive to the Central Valley of California. My local movie theater got exclusive rights to show it in entirely in digital format from George Lucas himself.

I can just imagine playing some of the cool horizontal or vertical arcade shmups on the kick-ass movie screen...that would be fucking cool or what!?

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Actually, the Highland 10 here in Austin has a DLP system, and I saw ROTS (in it's entirely digital form) on it there, so I don't know how exclusive that is. But you're right, the picture quality was absolutely amazing.

I'd love to play me some Gradius V on that puppy...
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Been having trouble with my tv lately(20in lcd flatscreen) so i've only been playing in yoko. It seem to be fine on a larger monitor, but is there actual diferences in the graphics for some shmups between yoko and tate modes?
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Been playing RF on my new cab, a 25" monitor. While 25" has alot of phatness potential. I think for shmups it's a little too big.
I think somthing like 23" would be better.

With this 25" I have to keep reminding myself to take one step back to have a better overview, but the graphics keep luring me in.

Maybe I just have to practise more, perhaps.

Anyway bigger isn't better, it's much cooler but not better I'd say go for 23" (if that is even a size in which monitors come).
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TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:25" to 29" is whats used in the arcades.
For myself, I use a 27" JVC. I wouldn't go smaller than a 20 incher though...even for Tate.
I think 27 is pretty much perfect. I use a 27 inch sony telly, my only quarrel is on mine, a portion of the side and top are cut off which is a real problem in some games (not so much in others though)

I hope to be getting a nice samsung this weekend though, I've had really good experience with samsung CRT televisions. They are just that good!
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kidneythief wrote:
TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:25" to 29" is whats used in the arcades.
For myself, I use a 27" JVC. I wouldn't go smaller than a 20 incher though...even for Tate.
I think 27 is pretty much perfect. I use a 27 inch sony telly, my only quarrel is on mine, a portion of the side and top are cut off which is a real problem in some games (not so much in others though)

I hope to be getting a nice samsung this weekend though, I've had really good experience with samsung CRT televisions. They are just that good!
Your tv most likely has a secret service menu where you can centre the image correctly. Look for "service menu"and the model of your tv on the net or go to one of those video/audio forums and they'll tell you.
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Post by fraggore »

just as in life gurth is the answer. bigger screen easyer to see the bullets. you try playing ikaruga on a 14" monitor good but ya got to sit realy close.

butt you can have to much gurth sitting close to 32" tv and playing shmups you got to keep looking around the screen. so its a answer of the right gurth and the sitting posistion.
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MovingTarget wrote:Been having trouble with my tv lately(20in lcd flatscreen) so i've only been playing in yoko. It seem to be fine on a larger monitor, but is there actual diferences in the graphics for some shmups between yoko and tate modes?
yeah theres a difference. in tate, they can output up to 480x640 pixels. in yoko, the maximum resolution is cut down to 360x480. so not only is the picture smaller, technically youre also losing detail (134,400 pixels to be precise). course thats for high res 3d games. its a bit different with sprites cause the image may have to be scaled for one mode or the other, brings up some different issues.

back on topic, 25-29" is ideal for me. preference comes mainly from playing on a tated 27" for a while, then getting an astro city and pretty much only playing on that since.
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