Recommended Anime/Manga?

[Raytrace]

ok I just finished watchin Space Battleship Yamato - I'm SO glad the internet didn't manage to spoiler it for me - such epic bittersweet tragedy - loved it

is there a spoiler tag/bbcode on this forum ?

[xbl0x180]

ok I just finished watchin Space Battleship Yamato - I'm SO glad the internet didn't manage to spoiler it for me - such epic bittersweet tragedy - loved it

is there a spoiler tag/bbcode on this forum ?

You could try changing the font size to tiny and, for others to read it, they would have to quote you or to cut and paste it on another document back to normal font size.

Uchu Senkan Yamato IS Matsumoto Leiji's anime legacy, moreso than Captain Harlock (even though I like those designs better)

[Raytrace]

ok, it was SOOO epicz to see the completely stoic Captain crying in his last moments, and the what (I think) was implication of his soul going into Yuki...

[drauch]

Everyone knows the most heartbreaking episode is Analyzer's love interest.

[Randorama]

Manga/Anime will become more mainstream academic topics in a few years. I have department colleagues who are doing some research on this topic, and an ex-girlfriend who will complete a Ph.D. thesis on the birth/evolution of Seinen and Josei Manga/Anime.

The same discourse applies to Videogames. Ten years ago they were taboo, now there are departments on videogame theory, and colleges offering BAs on this topic. You can ask to our own Berty MKII, or google for Jesper Juul or Ian Bogost. My landlady invited me to a lecture on a Japanese literature scholar doing research on classic Mangas (e.g. Tezuka's more adult-oriented works, Ashita no Joe).

The bottom line is simple. If the need for knowing a market arises, or scholars run out of topics of research (or both), then somebody will study it in a university.

[xbl0x180]

Stop throwing around the term "moe" in reference to older works, it didn't become a thing until the mid-2000s.

"Moe" signifies a very distinct blobby, featureless style of character design.

Yes, it signifies what you wrote above. Still, "moe" has a more general meaning, which includes budding [of young girls]. Besides, the same idea of including "little girls doing cute things" didn't just arise in the past 15 years. This has been around for much longer than that. Personally, I just like the way they used to be drawn and characterised - they resembled teenagers and they acted smart (i.e., Lum, Yohko)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)

However, harem-themed anime became more and more prevalent, and those characters were either drawn as preteens and/or were characteristically stupid (i.e., Belldandy, Sasami, and pretty much any other moeblob since then).

[Raytrace]

Everyone knows the most heartbreaking episode is Analyzer's love interest.

yep that was amazing too - especially when he says 'I will still love you though...'

yeah it's hilarious but sad, when he's on the sunbed and talking to the other guys in full 'lad mode' - poor guy

[KAI]

まじかるすいーとプリズムナナ-発表告知ムービー

わくわく!!

[Op Intensify]

Nope, that's not at all a cash-in on Madoka's popularity.

[Raytrace]

まじかるすいーとプリズムナナ-発表告知ムービー

わくわく!!

what is that?

[Raytrace]

watching Farewell To Space Battleship Yamato, I've only just gotten to the 'launch' part, but I am really liking it already, I'm a sentimental type and the references to the Captain etc. (especially from Dr. Sado/Sade) just completely get to me :p

[KAI]

what is that?

Powerpuff Girls by Shaft

[Raytrace]

what is that?

Powerpuff Girls by Shaft

I see, I'm pretty sure I'd no like

[cj iwakura]

November 13 is going to be an awesome day. Serial Experiments Lain and Children Who Chase Voices from Deep Below are both getting US Blu-ray releases then.

Lain is eighty bucks, though. Ouch. They know that ABe dorks like myself are going to buy it no matter what, and they're right. (I bought the DVDs immediately after they went out of print, before the price shot up.)

Right Stuf has a preorder for $53.99, done and done.

http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827 ... 6150/4/0/0

[Op Intensify]

Right Stuf has a preorder for $53.99, done and done.

Thanks for letting me know!

[KAI]

Watching Sanctuary's OVA



I'll give the manga a try.

[duckman]

Does anyone else notice how anime seemed to become a lot uglier and shittier sometime around 2001? I think that was when most major anime studios started switching from hand-painted cels to digital coloring -- and boy did it fucking show! Every show, without exception, started to have washed-out colors, cheap barely-existent shading (if there was shading at all), crappy-looking backgrounds and terrible digital effects. Worse, the character designs began looking blander and less structured (that is, blobby - for the worst offenders today see K-On! (literal "moe-blobs") and Masaaki Yuasa). And don't get me started on all the damage brought on by Gonzo and their atrocious 3DCG!

So yeah, I'd say 2001 is the year Japanese cartoons bit the dust.

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[KAI]

A lot of pre-2001 animes had the same problem, you know?

[duckman]

A lot of pre-2001 animes had the same problem, you know?

I'm not saying there weren't anime before 2001 that looked shitty, just that most anime after did.

[Op Intensify]

Worse, the character designs began looking blander and less structured (that is, blobby - for the worst offenders today see K-On! (literal "moe-blobs") and Masaaki Yuasa).

Terrible example. Yuasa is the only director to date to actually do anything interesting and unique with that style (Kaiba). It's clearly used as an homage to classic artists like Tezuka and Ishinomori, and it's kept entirely consistent within the strange, abstract environmental designs.

[Daigohji]

Watching Sanctuary's OVA



I'll give the manga a try.

The Sanctuary manga has been in my top five since I first read it in the mid 90s. Superb artwork, a huge cast of strong-willed characters with not a single teenager in sight (aside from the occassional starlet getting boned by corrupt politicians), a complex and constantly twisting plot with epic scope, tension that cranks up and up. In fact, now I want to go and read it all again.

[Hagane]

the worst offenders [...] Masaaki Yuasa

If I had to count pre 2001 anime that are more interesting and better looking than Masaaki Yuasa's stuff, I wouldn't even have to use all the fingers in my hand. As Op said you probably picked the single worst example to back your (tired, incorrect) point.

[Raytrace]

Farewell To Space Battleship Yamato - well I wasn't expecting that ending at all - really enjoyed it though...

[xbl0x180]

Does anyone else notice how anime seemed to become a lot uglier and shittier sometime around 2001? I think that was when most major anime studios started switching from hand-painted cels to digital coloring -- and boy did it fucking show! Every show, without exception, started to have washed-out colors, cheap barely-existent shading (if there was shading at all), crappy-looking backgrounds and terrible digital effects. Worse, the character designs began looking blander and less structured (that is, blobby - for the worst offenders today see K-On! (literal "moe-blobs") and Masaaki Yuasa). And don't get me started on all the damage brought on by Gonzo and their atrocious 3DCG!

So yeah, I'd say 2001 is the year Japanese cartoons bit the dust.

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           /	 Here lies  \ 
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          |      Anime      |
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          |	    1963      |
          |	     -        |
          |	    2001      |
          |                 |
          |      R.I.P      |
          |_________________|

TROOF!

[duckman]

Worse, the character designs began looking blander and less structured (that is, blobby - for the worst offenders today see K-On! (literal "moe-blobs") and Masaaki Yuasa).

Terrible example. Yuasa is the only director to date to actually do anything interesting and unique with that style (Kaiba).

It's hard to "do anything interesting and unique" with a style if the style itself looks bad.

It's clearly used as an homage to classic artists like Tezuka and Ishinomori

Except Tezuka and Ishinomori's character designs had actual structure and didn't constantly morph and deform like Play-Doh. Plus, whether or not Yuasa is making "homages" to anyone doesn't affect whether the designs look good or not.

By the way, I did like Yojou-han Shinwa Taikai, but not because of Yuasa's art style.

[Hagane]

Yojou han's character designs are amazing. What is poor is the animation, I guess because they wouldn't give him much money for a series most anime fans wouldn't watch.

[duckman]

Yojou han's character designs are amazing.

Yusuke Nakamura is an awesome artist.

http://www.animepaper.net/gallery/wallp ... e_nakamura

What is poor is the animation, I guess because they wouldn't give him much money for a series most anime fans wouldn't watch.

Most of Madhouse's TV anime from the last decade or so had pretty poor animation. All of their good animators must have been too busy working on Redline.

[Hagane]

Dennou Coil had pretty nice animation.

In any case, most TV anime before wasn't any better in the animation department. LOTS of animation shortcuts, still frames or characters only moving their mouths when talking. TV anime has never been a paramount of animation quality, really.

[duckman]

In any case, most TV anime before wasn't any better in the animation department. LOTS of animation shortcuts, still frames or characters only moving their mouths when talking. TV anime has never been a paramount of animation quality, really.

Pretty much this. Movies and OVAs have always had all the good animation.

[KAI]

Just watched Rintaro's Kamui no Ken/The Dagger of Kamui

I need more like this.