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hey guys, I have a couple questions regarding the tools you use to work on circuits and other hardware.

1) Is there any problem with using screwdrivers that have magnetic tips when working with circuits and the such?

2) Recommendations for a good quality soldering iron? (looking to replace my $10 iron with something a bit better)

3) Recommendations for a decent multimeter?

I'd love to know what tools you guys use, and whether you recommend them or not.

Any input would be appreciated :D
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1) I get back to you on that.
2) I recommend a soldering station for one obvious reason: adjustable temperature control. What's your budget for one? For $80.80 you can get a Hakko FX-888. Hakko is considered one of the better company and this one is no exception since its built quality is pretty good at it's price range. Weller stations aren't bad either, which you can get one for $42.95
3) Fluke Multimeters, no question about it!
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I can't imagine a case where magnetic tips would be a problem. You won't be disassembling anything with enough current (maybe a battery will still be installed on some boards) to cause shorts, and a dropped screw would be just as much of a problem. Scraping a screw across traces when trying to pick it up would be a bigger problem. But maybe somebody else has some ideas here; I think it would be a good idea, though. I wouldn't go out of my way to spend a lot on magnetic-tip screwdrivers though.
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beatsgo wrote:1) I get back to you on that.
2) I recommend a soldering station for one obvious reason: adjustable temperature control. What's your budget for one? For $80.80 you can get a Hakko FX-888. Hakko is considered one of the better company and this one is no exception since its built quality is pretty good at it's price range. Weller stations aren't bad either, which you can get one for $42.95
3) Fluke Multimeters, no question about it!

+1 on the hakko fx-888. if you don't mind shelling out a little extra it's definitely worth it.
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Magnetic is fine, and yes very handy if you drop a screw in a tight spot you can't get to with your fingers.

I've been limping along with a $10 RadioShack 15W soldering iron for many years, and I'm really finding it's limitations now that I've gained some experience. I'm way overdue for an upgrade to a proper adjustable soldering station, and man a third hand with a magnifying glass would be the mutt's nuts.

I have a simple multimeter, but more often I just need to check continuity. It has an alligator clip on one side, a needle probe on the other, and a battery and a small lightbulb in the middle. Does the job with no muss or fuss, and no risk of running too much current through something accidentally. I think I would find one that buzzes or beeps a tad more convenient in some cases, and unfortunately my multimeter doesn't have that function, so take that for what it's worth.
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+1 on hakko soldering stations. best heater on the market, multiple tips, hot sex.

as for a multimeter - i use the cheapest one i could find and it does the job. a nice option to have is a continuity test with an audio signal (beep) so you don't have to stare at the screen all the time when operating with the probes.

i would also recommend buying at least one or two ceramic screwdrivers or screwdrivers with ceramic tips. dirt cheap on ebay. these are perfect for operating surface mount potentiometers without the risk of the screwdriver slipping and shorting some place it shouldn't.
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This is one of the few times you'll hear me recommending a shit tool, but myself and some local friends have been using this $59 (shipped) Ebay soldering station, and we've all been quite pleased.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180701054905
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gabe wrote:This is one of the few times you'll hear me recommending a shit tool, but myself and some local friends have been using this $59 (shipped) Ebay soldering station, and we've all been quite pleased.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180701054905
Looks like that one sold out, here's a very similar one, but a bit more expensive:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/380172520911
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what do you guys think of this ceramic screwdriver set?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/4pcs-Ceramic-Ali ... 3f16ce3750
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what do you guys think of this ceramic screwdriver set?
I would recommend a set of Felo E-Smart screwdrivers for the big stuff, and WIHA drivers for the smaller (Phillips #0/#00/#000) bits and other screw heads like Torx or Hex.

http://felo.de/en/catalog/series/esmt/
http://www.wihatools.com/

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moh wrote:what do you guys think of this ceramic screwdriver set?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/4pcs-Ceramic-Ali ... 3f16ce3750
looks alright - i actually want to order a single one from the same seller.
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One thing to consider when choosing a soldering iron is whether you can get replacement tips and parts. The well-known brands like Weller may be a bit more expensive, but they are also widely carried, removing that issue.

The Hakko irons are well regarded, but both the irons and tips are widely cloned. If you're buying outside official channels there's a real risk you won't get the genuine thing. The clones mostly work fine, but you could save some money by going directly to the clone brands (eg. the Aoyue irons that are popular among the maker crowd are basically clones of older Hakko gear).

If you're planning on probing high voltages or mains you should stay away from the cheapest multimeters just for personal safety, otherwise pretty much anything should do. If you're really interested, watch some old EEVblog multimeter reviews to get an idea what to watch out for. Fluke meters are very good, but also expensive and quite frankly overkill. On the plus side they're so well built you can pick up a beat-up second-hand old meter for relatively cheap and still expect it to work almost as good as new.
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