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PVM 2130QM

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Sold a bunch of stuff recently, scalers, CRTs etc. Was pretty much just left with an iScan HD and a shitty knock off brand LCD, luckily for me a mate was getting rid of a TV (PVM 2130QM) and asked if I wanted it. A surprisingly brief chat with the Mrs later and I found myself the proud owner of a killer CRT.

Anyway, having a couple issues with the set at the moment. From what I understand there is no controlling the geometry on these sets via a remote, actually requires adjusting from the PCB. Not really wanting to go through that every time I switch consoles, is there any sort of external RGB interface with geometry controls on it that I could feed my consoles into before hitting the PVM? Realistically it's not a massive deal I guess but the left shift on the image annoys me and with a monitor of this caliber I want it to be perfect.
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The Sony PVM sets have a pretty extensive service menu, so check it out first.
You get screen shift functions with most of the Extron RGB interfaces. Horizontal is easy to find. Vertical is a bit less common. The interfaces work with 15khz RGB, but require clean sync - just like your monitor, so no problem there.
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Unfortunately I don't think this model has a service menu, all adjustments have to be made via the PCBs: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?9nk3b1vemvlfpve

Any idea on models from Extron? Having a look on ebay at the moment and there is a fuck tonne of these things.
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Whichever one you like. One with a h-shift control knob on the front obviously. 160 xi maybe ? The 202 has horizontal and vertical shift, but it uses a DSub9 RGB connector instead of DSub15, so you have to build a custom cable.
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Thamiel wrote:Unfortunately I don't think this model has a service menu, all adjustments have to be made via the PCBs: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?9nk3b1vemvlfpve
where did you get that from? i've always only found sites that sell these manuals.

>Color Temperature 9300C

:?

and i've been wondering why the whites on my monitor are so damn bright. that explains it. i guess the pvm 2950 is the only one featuring a switchable colour temp?
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ryu wrote:
Thamiel wrote:Unfortunately I don't think this model has a service menu, all adjustments have to be made via the PCBs: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?9nk3b1vemvlfpve
where did you get that from? i've always only found sites that sell these manuals.

>Color Temperature 9300C

:?

and i've been wondering why the whites on my monitor are so damn bright. that explains it. i guess the pvm 2950 is the only one featuring a switchable colour temp?
I bit the bullet and payed for it, hope you can get some use out of it mate.

I still have the iScan HD, with the appropriate cables would the geometry controls from that unit work when using the RGB passthrough? Still waiting on a power supply to test things.
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No, you cannot use the Iscan with a 15khz monitor.
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Fudoh wrote:No, you cannot use the Iscan with a 15khz monitor.
Didn't think so, was just getting kind of hopeful haha. I'll pick up the extron and give making the cables a go myself, good excuse to practice soldering.
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This is how geometry adjustments are performed on this model, not exactly convenient for quick tweaks to picture shift.

Video is also quite interesting regardless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBqm4Th ... re=related
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depending on the consoles and cables you use you might only have to tweak it once though. i've tweaked mine once for the saturn and i think it's perfect for all 240p rgb scart sources
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Irritatingly SVideo is nearly perfect geometry wise, it's just over RGB that the SNES shifts. My RGB 64 is glorious haha!
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wait. it has the correct position with an rgb modded n64? that's odd. so far i've had the shift with all rgb sources before i tweaked the h-shift. but i'm getting a n64 with rgb output soon, so i'll see if it displays correctly for me even though i've turned around the pots.

i've had the experience that everything's displayed just fine with composite over scart, and i'm sure the pvm 2130QM does not display s-video. are you sure you're not just feeding it composite video?
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ryu wrote:wait. it has the correct position with an rgb modded n64? that's odd. so far i've had the shift with all rgb sources before i tweaked the h-shift. but i'm getting a n64 with rgb output soon, so i'll see if it displays correctly for me even though i've turned around the pots.

i've had the experience that everything's displayed just fine with composite over scart, and i'm sure the pvm 2130QM does not display s-video. are you sure you're not just feeding it composite video?

Yeah the RGB 64 is perfect. Absolutely positive this set displays SVideo, just looking at that service manual though...my back panel is different to the one shown. In that manual I linked looking at the illustration my monitor has two SVideo inputs where the diagram has video and stereo jacks under "Monitor out".

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interesting. the back of mine is the same as in the manual, so i've got no s-vid inputs. : / kind of sucks because i suspect the older snes models with the weaker rgb output (which mine is one of) might look better on this monitor through s-vid.
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ryu wrote:interesting. the back of mine is the same as in the manual, so i've got no s-vid inputs. : / kind of sucks because i suspect the older snes models with the weaker rgb output (which mine is one of) might look better on this monitor through s-vid.
I tried SVid, although the geometry was nearly perfect the picture sucked. I've noticed that there is a few different SVideo cables around the net for specific models of SNES (PAL, NTSC) i've probably just got the wrong cable for my model.
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