A serious note. TVs, on their side (tate)

[DeBurgo]

Hi, sorry to bump this thread, but I think it really should be stickied or something. Thank you so much it, though.

Mostly, rotating your TV if the case looks strong and it's not a 32" behemoth, is going to be safe enough - it'll be better to have one you can permanently put on its side, obviously for practical reasons try to get one that will be VERY stable (flat sided). Many people here have been spinning their TVs like it's a sport, without issue.

I've already rotated my 32" behemoth though, and now I'm actually a little scared to touch the thing to put it back. It wasn't hard however, it was actually surprisingly light (lighter than my 19" computer moniter, or at least it felt that way for its bulk). It's not the only TV I have (and in fact it was a free hand-me-down) so, it's just to let you know that I'm not completely nuts. The casing felt fine, but I'm more worried about the aformentioned internal parts that might screw up. I AM being extra-careful however, making sure not to make any bumps.

I'd love to know more information about the model of the TV and how safe/unsafe it is to rotate it, though, if possible. It's a Toshiba, model # CF30F40R. I don't imagine there's any way to safely check the integrity of the monitor myself, is there?

pics please. I'd love to see a big tv tated

oh, no problem, taking pics was the first thing I did



I turned it back and it seems to be doing alright. I do not think I want to press my luck, however. It "feels" ok when turning it, but... also the bottom is not completely squared off, but it's completely stable if I put a towel under it like I did in the picture (the back part of the casing is fairly flush with the wall, too, so it's impossible to fall backwards).

[Danny]

Heh I am quite lucky, found a pretty big TV in a skip a few months back an it's big enough but not to big to TATE so guess what I'm using this spare TV for now...

p.s: If it break... meh who cares I got the TV for free

[MovingTarget]

When tateing my 20 inch lcd the screen sometimes cuts out after awhile, I can sometimes fix this by turning it off, putting pressure against the control panel, then turning on again. This will either work, work for 5-20 mins, or work for a split second before switching off again. It sometimes now happens in the normal position, but not after applying that trick above. So I'm somewhat reluctant in trying tate again

[ParryPerson]

I just tate'ed my 2 20'' flats with no problems at all.

What is really comes down to is common sense. The riskes involved are like saying that by driving a car, you can die. Which you can. If you have a crappy car that needs brakes and new tires, you use common sense. If your a horrible driver (TV handler) and have a horrible car (TV to big/old/touchy) then you should probably think twice about going on a road trip.

I say, go for it. (if your not stupid/don't have a huge tv/aren't a klutz)

[elvis]

When tateing my 20 inch lcd the screen sometimes cuts out after awhile, I can sometimes fix this by turning it off, putting pressure against the control panel, then turning on again. This will either work, work for 5-20 mins, or work for a split second before switching off again. It sometimes now happens in the normal position, but not after applying that trick above. So I'm somewhat reluctant in trying tate again

See my post in the "Can I tate my plasma?" thread. It's likely your LCD is pooling hot air which can't escape because of the oritentation of the unit. The unit then cuts out as a safeguard.

Try some fan-forced cooling to solve your problem.

[everlust]

Since i had a dual-monitor setup of 22" LCD monitor's for my PC, i just decided to tate one permanently. Bought the wrong mount for it though, doesn't allow rotation, but can just be bolted rotated in portrait. Still good.

At the moment, I'm even scared for this small screen that weighs 11 pounds, anything bigger and I'd probably shit bricks rotating lol. End result is magnificent and instant love with vert shmups though.

Also, brilliant guide, though i can believe this stuff moreso applies to CRT and Plasma's, and the larger range of LCD's. Though got me a bit more aware about this despite knowing some of the implications. I actually have a friend who has a 37" Plasma rotated. Really racks my brain seeing say, Ikaruga being played on a tate 37". I get minor headaches for some reason from it hahaha, and just can't concentrate while playing. I don't know if it's just me, but with a rotated 37", i had trouble adjusting my....'eyes', and seeing the 37" = headache + dizzy spells.

[Ed Oscuro]

Interesting thread, don't remember seeing it before (almost before my time anyway). Interesting that Bloodflowers didn't mention heat dispersion, although that's mainly become an issue with people disrupting the flow of plasmas and the like. I'd be surprised if even a CRT that's eleven pounds (like a tiny Sony pro broadcast monitor) has anything in it susceptible to damage, aside from joints, but according to bloodflowers even light things can be dislodged. But CRTs are fundamentally different from LCDs which are (almost?) completely solid-state. The main worry there is the lifespan of the CFL backlight dimming leading to a noticably dingy image.

In the previous post Evils brings up what is pretty much the sole issue for LCDs - they are so light that you almost never have to worry about stress, especially not from weight. The frame is a significant part of the weight of a LCD, especially for smaller units. Heat is what you have to worry about.

The other major issue for LCDs is one that shouldn't apply directly to separate computer monitors at all, but for laptops. The hinges on laptops are a notorious point of failure and in fact my screen occasionally shows some green glitches that are probably the result of a bad hinge. The average LCD computer monitor doesn't have this problem, and even those that rotate have the hinge fixed to a mounting point on the back of the panel housing, usually with no wires whatsoever running through. Thin film panels would be a no-brainer replacement for CRTs...if it weren't for the fact that they're LCDs and have that whole host of issues fundamentally.

Also, brilliant guide, though i can believe this stuff moreso applies to CRT and Plasma's, and the larger range of LCD's. Though got me a bit more aware about this despite knowing some of the implications. I actually have a friend who has a 37" Plasma rotated. Really racks my brain seeing say, Ikaruga being played on a tate 37". I get minor headaches for some reason from it hahaha, and just can't concentrate while playing. I don't know if it's just me, but with a rotated 37", i had trouble adjusting my....'eyes', and seeing the 37" = headache + dizzy spells.

Normally that would be due from squinting (small screen + high resolution) but I suppose you could get the same from tracking all over a huge screen with your eyes. There could be something else going on that I can't imagine at the moment (Plasma isn't known for a limited viewing angle, it does have flicker for generating shades of gray from white + black but that shouldn't be an issue).

[themachinist]

I had a 20" flatscreen tube tv. I wasn't rough with it but I didn't baby it either when tate-ing and eventually the picture developed a slightly distorted shape.... lul.s

[Jack_from_BYOAC]

I have a Mitsubishi Megaview 37" presentation monitor that I have tated in my room now. It was already malfunctioning, so I said what the hell.

A few notes

-focus is not as good tated. Even fiddling with the internal pot I can never get it right

-discoloring is still apparent even after several degaussings. It's been like this for a year and it still hasn't gone away.

-the screen is darker, and occasionally has a wavery appearance. This could just be the monitor on it's last legs anyway.

BUT

It's a blast to play vertical games on such a large screen. And the monitor is still very very high quality. The color is incredibly vivid. I play the PSX version of Dodonpachi on it usually, and the laser just seems to glow with a particular nuclear power*I sit in the floor in front of it I actually have to look up and down a little bit sometimes to see everything. Bullets are very large!

I prefer playing on a smaller screen though. Anything above 29" for a shmup just feels a little too big, like I can't focus on the entire screen at once.

*probably because it is! hope I don't go sterile from sitting in front of all that radiation. makes my head feel kinda funny...