Is Larsa too hard?

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Is Larsa too hard?

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I was just wondering if I was the only one who thought that Larsa was too hard on original mode?

I mean at high rank her attacks are mind numbingly bullshit to deal with. I'd much rather fight her on Maniac any day than on original. On maniac her attacks don't consist of infinity speed bullets and dice rolls.

Or am I the only one...
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1.5 Original I'm guessing?

I don't think her difficulty is as jarring as Garra in Ra.de, especially compared to the rest of the game. She does have a certain attack in phase 2 that always gets me though. I think its a nice difficulty for the last boss.
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have you tried learning things and then practicing said things

that usually helps
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With the port, she is pretty easy to practise, if you don't mind hearing Reco/Palm and Larsa bitch at each other every time.

It definitely builds confidence for some of the easier patterns, which should show you where to place each bomb. With the amount of resources you can get to her with, shouldn't be a problem with some practise.
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azinth wrote:have you tried learning things and then practicing said things

that usually helps
Lol I can do her on 1 life, I'm just saying that for the level of difficulty of game she follows, she's poorly designed
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...am i the only one who can't even get to larsa on 1 credit? =[
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Illyrian wrote:dice rolls.
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moh wrote:...

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...am i the only one who can't even get to larsa on 1 credit? =[
You are not alone.

I've beat black label original recently, but still working on v1.5 right now.
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As the Starcraft kids say, learn to counter.
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danmaku+fast bullets+tiny hitbox
horrible combination.
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I think she is a bit disproportionately hard for how the rest of the game plays out. This is for Original 1.5 I'm assuming.

Reason she is so much easier in Black Label is because her life bar actually goes down.
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Same here, even though Arrange/Novice modes are bearable, I still can't handle Larsa normally. (1.5 and BL modes.)
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All of her attacks can be dodged if you practice enough. Granted, some are taxing or less taxing depending on what type you use. You have to use your bombs wisely because some of the patterns are quite dangerous to risk fully no-missing. The last thing you want is blowing 30mil of your score because you didn't identify your bomb situations.
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moh wrote:...

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...am i the only one who can't even get to larsa on 1 credit? =[
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Aquas wrote:All of her attacks can be dodged if you practice enough. Granted, some are taxing or less taxing depending on what type you use. You have to use your bombs wisely because some of the patterns are quite dangerous to risk fully no-missing. The last thing you want is blowing 30mil of your score because you didn't identify your bomb situations.
This.

Evem the best players in the world have to bom through Larsa as her attacks are likely to randomly just punch you in the face. stage 1 attack 3 comes to mind. Compared to the rest of the boss fights in that game she is just boring and random.
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The best players don't have to bomb Larsa, they sometimes bomb because they can't be arsed to put a really good run on the line by being stingy with bombs for a comparatively minimal increase in the final score.
Illyrian wrote:her attacks are likely to randomly just punch you in the face
Illyrian wrote:she is just boring and random
You might want to stop saying things are random, it doesn't reflect well on your intelligence.
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But that's why Original 1.5 Larsa IS easy... bombs take down a lot of her health.
Maniac you need a lot more bombs to spam your way through. Also you can't tell me that her final phase on Maniac is easier than anything she spews at you on original!!
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Larsa's fittingly difficult for a final boss, without the insane difficulty jump the aforementioned Ms. Gaara is. The most jarring difficulty jump I've seen so far is DDP2:BS's stage 5 - shit gets serious in the 2nd half of the stage there in a hurry from loleasyNMNB to the point where I'm guaranteed to dump 3-4 bombs in the space of about a minute. The bosses are all pretty lame though, but if you 1CC the game the TLB takes a similar massive WTF difficulty leap relative to the game's other bosses (although it's no Hibachi either considering it's a TLB) and makes you sorely wish you got a few point extends in the game. I will record a 1cc of this game eventually, damn it~
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She really is rather dull. Dragon Emperion with her on it's back LOOKS cool but the fight itself is just dull.

As I said before, really good fun on maniac difficulty
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Larsa is the end of the game. Nah, I don't think she's too hard.

A better question would be early game walls; something like Cyvern stage 2 boss. If I make it past there, I'm pretty much guaranteed to make it at least to stage 4.
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Gotta earn your generous clear bonus and special Larsa counter bonus :P
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Jeneki wrote:Larsa is the end of the game. Nah, I don't think she's too hard.

A better question would be early game walls; something like Cyvern stage 2 boss. If I make it past there, I'm pretty much guaranteed to make it at least to stage 4.
This reminded me of Batsugun. 2nd boss seemed harder than anything else in the game.
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dunpeal2064 wrote:
Jeneki wrote:Larsa is the end of the game. Nah, I don't think she's too hard.

A better question would be early game walls; something like Cyvern stage 2 boss. If I make it past there, I'm pretty much guaranteed to make it at least to stage 4.
This reminded me of Batsugun. 2nd boss seemed harder than anything else in the game.
I feel that Jupiter is harder than anything, but Madzella is a close second. still love that game though :D
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If you are trying to milk Jupiter, its harder, but I found the fight to be easier than Madzilla when just going for the kill.

Both of them are harder than the last boss though.
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dunpeal2064 wrote:
Jeneki wrote:Larsa is the end of the game. Nah, I don't think she's too hard.

A better question would be early game walls; something like Cyvern stage 2 boss. If I make it past there, I'm pretty much guaranteed to make it at least to stage 4.
This reminded me of Batsugun. 2nd boss seemed harder than anything else in the game.
All 3 of Hellfire's stage 3 bosses. I swear they make up almost half the game's difficulty alone, and it's already a steep learning curve.
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The worst WORST most disproportionately difficult boss is without a doubt 3-5 in Nightmark in the Dark.

It's actually TWO bosses, at the same time, spamming mobs and flying around. And a horrible stage layout.

Here is a video:
http://youtu.be/mo_rHzHyJuw

It's so out of whack with the other 4 bosses. I've 1CC'd the game lots of times now, and still this boss will seriously fuck up my runs 40 or 50% of the time.
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eh, she's aiight. just play the game a bunch.

also, if those voices get annoying, BECAUSE THEY DO, you can turn them off if you're running the port.
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