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Raytrace wrote:haha I suppose a lot of people will disagree with this, but in the last week I'm just after rewatching all the Evangelion Episodes 1-26 and End Of Evangelion, and to be honest I actually enjoyed it even more the second time round...

NGE was the first anime I watched properly (apart from say Wicked City and Akira with friends during the mid 90's 'Manga' western anime boom), this was only a year ago or so (yep, Im that n00b), so I had nothing to compare it to when I watched it. Now I've watched a fair bit since, I still really like it, ok some of the psycho babble gets a bit too much sometimes, but the genuinely otherworldly feel of certain parts are just incredible. I'm talking mainly of all the berserker scenes, there is a real feel of uncontrolled violence in those scenes IMO. The cinematography/scene design is beautiful too, and while yes a LOT of cels are re-used, it never felt annoying to me. Also not watching the english dub this time around made Shinji way less whiney (though Misato's gravelly voice is way cooler in the eng dub).

So anyway yeah, I'm an unashamed massive Evangelion fan :p
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I'm on episode 89 of LOTGH - in other words I'm past the 3rd season - this series has NO fear of killing off characters, I haven't felt so emotionally attached to characters in a show since Saul Tigh and Adama in BSG (new)...
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Would not recommend Macross II: Lover's Again much, I didn't hate it, but it just didn't seem to be going anywhere and the script was pretty boring, then again it could have been the subs, but I don't think so...
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Raytrace wrote:I'm on episode 89 of LOTGH - in other words I'm past the 3rd season - this series has NO fear of killing off characters, I haven't felt so emotionally attached to characters in a show since Saul Tigh and Adama in BSG (new)...
You make me want to watch LOGH (main series) again - I burned through ridiculously fast last summer, it was so good. But I got distracted by work+school before I could start A Hundred Billion Stars and Spiral Labyrinth, so I want to clear those out before revisiting! I miss the exploits of the Rosenritter in particular. "It... it's the Rosenrittaa! Uwaaaa!"

I was consistently surprised and impressed by the character development in the main series. So many distinct and endearing personalities on both sides of the conflict, with nobody's future guaranteed. I liked it when after one particularly seismic event a character dejectedly remarked that they didn't have the option of resurrecting dead friends "like in some lame anime," haha.
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BIL wrote:
Raytrace wrote:I'm on episode 89 of LOTGH - in other words I'm past the 3rd season - this series has NO fear of killing off characters, I haven't felt so emotionally attached to characters in a show since Saul Tigh and Adama in BSG (new)...
You make me want to watch LOGH (main series) again - I burned through ridiculously fast last summer, it was so good. But I got distracted by work+school before I could start A Hundred Billion Stars and Spiral Labyrinth, so I want to clear those out before revisiting! I miss the exploits of the Rosenritter in particular. "It... it's the Rosenrittaa! Uwaaaa!"

I was consistently surprised and impressed by the character development in the main series. So many distinct and endearing personalities on both sides of the conflict, with nobody's future guaranteed. I liked it when after one particularly seismic event a character dejectedly remarked that they didn't have the option of resurrecting dead friends "like in some lame anime," haha.
yeah the Rosenritter and Schenkopp are pure badass , them, Cobra, Ramba Ral, they're the sortof characters I like in anime, though there doesn't seem to be as much of them anymore.

yeah the talking about anime bit happens on two seperate occasions I think - hilarious :)
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Watched 2 eps of Macross 7, kinda don't mind it so far, I think the art is good and at least it does seem to have some of the SDF Macross feel and more direct connections, I really like the geodome type city ship, reminds me of both Battlestar Galactica (both) and Silent Running (actually I'm pretty sure the ones in original BSG were actually the models from Silent Running)

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Finally finished all of LOTGH it shows the quality of a series when I literally on reflection can't even find one element of it I found unsatisfactory.
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I'm working my way through LOTGH as well, among various billion other titles. Yeah, it's pretty much perfect. Only minor grievance I can point out is the occasional change in animation style. First makes its appearance in the introduction of the Rosenritter in full, and noticed it again with one particular scene with Yang Wenli sitting in a chair. Rest of the show was animated in the "classic" style, except any shot that was on Wenli. Kind of annoying.
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Raytrace wrote:Finally finished all of LOTGH it shows the quality of a series when I literally on reflection can't even find one element of it I found unsatisfactory.
Also, you have now pretty much spoiled yourself for 95% of anime shows. After LOGH most anime just fails to impress at all.
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Ghegs wrote:
Raytrace wrote:Finally finished all of LOTGH it shows the quality of a series when I literally on reflection can't even find one element of it I found unsatisfactory.
Also, you have now pretty much spoiled yourself for 95% of anime shows. After LOGH most anime just fails to impress at all.
yes I suppose it is amazing, but it is very different to any other anime stuff I've seen, so I don't really put them in the same department in my brain :p. I seriously believe if it was set in say Rome or Medieval Europe and made as a 'real' (i.e. live action) series, it would be lauded by critics as highly as things such as the West Wing.

I do have to admit though, apart from original MSG, 0080 and 08th MS Team, nothing I've seen so far comes close to LOTGH in terms of pure quality. Even if you were merely to read it's script or even just a list of it's little philosophies of mankind/war debates, it wouldn't be boring.
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drauch wrote:I'm working my way through LOTGH as well, among various billion other titles. Yeah, it's pretty much perfect. Only minor grievance I can point out is the occasional change in animation style. First makes its appearance in the introduction of the Rosenritter in full, and noticed it again with one particular scene with Yang Wenli sitting in a chair. Rest of the show was animated in the "classic" style, except any shot that was on Wenli. Kind of annoying.
Rosenritter are so brilliant, Shenkopp is legend. Is the guy who wrote the LOTGH novels still alive? Is there any chance of any more LOTGH (in any form) ?
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Yoshiki Tanaka is still alive 'n kicking. Some of his other novels have also been adapted into anime and manga, they might be worth checking out. Actually, I should do that myself.

It's been over ten years since the last LOGH anime release, so I kind of doubt we'll be seeing any more. Then again, the most recent game came out only four years ago, so who knows? I wouldn't hold my breath, though.

Oh yeah, he also made Tytania, another sci-fi space opera, which got adapted into anime but I thought that was pretty boring, it lacked the magic LOGH has. Maybe LOGH is so great even the creator can't surpass it.
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cool stuff - Imma check as much as possible of his stuff definitely...
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Ghegs wrote:Yoshiki Tanaka is still alive 'n kicking. Some of his other novels have also been adapted into anime and manga, they might be worth checking out. Actually, I should do that myself.

It's been over ten years since the last LOGH anime release, so I kind of doubt we'll be seeing any more. Then again, the most recent game came out only four years ago, so who knows? I wouldn't hold my breath, though.

Oh yeah, he also made Tytania, another sci-fi space opera, which got adapted into anime but I thought that was pretty boring, it lacked the magic LOGH has. Maybe LOGH is so great even the creator can't surpass it.
there still isn't any full translation of the novels is there? I've only ever been able to find about once chapter last time I checked. I have to say another amazing thing about LOTGH was the fansubs, ok obviously I'm not able to know how close they are to the Japanese, but even just taken apart from that on their own, they are very well written and wordy.
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watching episode 2 of VOTOMS, love the dark mood of it. Nice to hear the voice of Bucock from LOTGH as the Police Commisioner. I'm pretty sure M'que or whatever his name is (the guy who likes to flick his fingers at crystal objects before battle) in MSG movies is the same voice as Oberstein, such a brilliantly calm but threatening voice...
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Yasuhiro Imagawa's Giant Robo, Getter Robo Armageddon, Tetsujin Go and Shin Mazinger.
Highly recommended, that guy knows about super robots and manliness.
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Raytrace wrote:I'm pretty sure M'que or whatever his name is (the guy who likes to flick his fingers at crystal objects before battle) in MSG movies is the same voice as Oberstein, such a brilliantly calm but threatening voice...
Indeed - that's the late Kaneto Shiozawa. He also voiced Rei in Hokuto no Ken, Shin Kazama in the original Area 88 OVA trilogy, Grey Fox in Metal Gear Solid and Random Hajile in Snatcher, amongst many others. I was sad to see he'd died so young when I looked him up. Rei is a favourite performance of mine, since he got to cut loose occasionally, shading that menacing restraint with Bruce Lee yowls and the odd pitch-black quip. :mrgreen:

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BIL wrote:
Raytrace wrote:I'm pretty sure M'que or whatever his name is (the guy who likes to flick his fingers at crystal objects before battle) in MSG movies is the same voice as Oberstein, such a brilliantly calm but threatening voice...
Indeed - that's the late Kaneto Shiozawa. He also voiced Rei in Hokuto no Ken, Shin Kazama in the original Area 88 OVA trilogy, Grey Fox in Metal Gear Solid and Random Hajile in Snatcher, amongst many others. I was sad to see he'd died so young when I looked him up. Rei is a favourite performance of mine, since he got to cut loose occasionally, shading that menacing restraint with Bruce Lee yowls and the odd pitch-black quip. :mrgreen:

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a brilliant voice - the guy who does Bucock in LOTGH I'm sure I've heard before also, usually in some sort of learned/wise/authorative role, another brilliant tone to his voice.
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I'm on episode 7 of VOTOMS. I recommend.
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VOTOMS is pretty sweet, but I wonder how you'll feel about the ending.
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Votoms is pretty stellar stuff, but I could certainly see one not liking the ending. The last few episodes had me kinda worried, but overall I like the way it turned out and the message it portrayed. Still need to watch that The Last Red Shoulder OVA, though.
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Im on ep 12 of VOTOMS and it's getting better constantly IMO, hope the ending isn't a total letdown :(

I also finally watched Redline, I proper liked it, the art was incredible and the characters/aliens were like something out of an early 80's/late 70's brit comic (ok I do just mean Eagle/2000AD :p ). That mafia don constantly getting either speed or coke rubbed in his gums by his entourage was horrible :/ - still, I loved it, even the ending.
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Finished watching Durarara!!, aka DRRR! and Dullalala!, an intended wordplay that becomes immediately obvious when you get acquainted with the premise. A very enjoyable series from the author of the praised Baccano!—which is generously yet subtly referenced throughout the 24 episodes.

Can't say I'm happy with the wrap-up (a hint towards a second season, hopefully), as some very important plotlines are left unresolved and certain characters undeveloped. Those that are resolved and developed, though, are very strong; they leave you with instant gratification in every single episode. I do admit to liking the first half of the series better, though, as it feels more FLCL-ish in nature, lighthearted and fun, which is reflected by a very catchy Baccano-ish opening. The unexpectedly sharp turn towards the darker narrative elements, not unlike the one in Gurren Lagann, made some characters look annoyingly awkward and stale, and made most of the others feel like they'd been completely idle in their pursuits for years before the main events had started, during which everything somehow contracted into a singularity of interconnected non-stop action.

That being said, this series is still one of the best out there, and is surely worth a watch for the impressive storytelling and a great cast of unique and likable characters, especially in the first half. Don't bother with the specials (DVD episodes 12.5 and 25) unless you really really like the show, they add nothing of importance to the story.
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Rinne No Lagrange 2 why oh why Lord??? :/ o_O :s :(

Rorouni Kenshin film might be good though
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Kizumonogatari's novel was good, i can wait to see Shaft's version.
Zaregoto is a must read too.
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been watching Macross 7 with my 3 year old son, I have to say, ok well the music is pretty bad, but the series isn't as bad as I was expecting, I already VASTLY prefer it to Macross II Lover's Again.

It is pretty hilarious the way he just starts singing in everyone's face all the time too.
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Well, the U.S. Robotech fans were quite starved for any new Macross anime back in the early 1990s, hence Central Media Park's desire to fully underwrite Episodes 5 and 6 entirely of the Macross II; Lovers Again OVA series circa 1992 (otherwise, it would've suddenly ended at episode 4 which wouldn't have been a good thing to leave that particular OVA series hanging).

I'm surprised that it was picked up for release as an arcade yoko based shmup PCB title of the same name from the likes of NMK and Banpresto in 1993 for the Japanese game centers. The U.S. based arcade distro, Fabtek, never did officially distribute either the 2nd sequel of Macross II nor Macross Plus Jamma conversion PCB kits for the American arcade scene (despite having distributed the 1st Banpresto/NMK produced PCB kit of "Space Fortress Macross" stateside in 1992). It was quite common to see a few SFM PCBs at some of my local arcades back in the early-1990s and into the mid-1990s.

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Raytrace wrote:been watching Macross 7 with my 3 year old son, I have to say, ok well the music is pretty bad, but the series isn't as bad as I was expecting, I already VASTLY prefer it to Macross II Lover's Again.

It is pretty hilarious the way he just starts singing in everyone's face all the time too.
I LIKE Macross 7 for the music! I used to collect videos of this series when it was first airing in Japan and watched them raw, so the music was the only thing I could really understand and get into. One thing for sure, I definitely prefer the chara designs for Macross 7 and Macross II to those ugly Masayuki designs for Macross Plus 8)
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US Renditions originally distributed Macross II (then it was Manga Video, I think). Was CPM involved with this series? I know they did this with their chara logo MD Geist, but I had no clue they were also involved with Macross...
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xbl0x180 wrote: I LIKE Macross 7 for the music! I used to collect videos of this series when it was first airing in Japan and watched them raw, so the music was the only thing I could really understand and get into. One thing for sure, I definitely prefer the chara designs for Macross 7 and Macross II to those ugly Masayuki designs for Macross Plus 8)
Yeah I suppose it isn't that bad, just his over enthusiasm is a bit hard to get used to eheh, I like Dancin On Planet Dance or wotever its called, sounds like a marginally heavier song by Rush or something :p.

Yeah Macross Plus chara designs weren't nice at all deffo.
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