Genre fusion shmups

[Ebbo]

Yeah, but Ikaruga is waaaaay too popular among shoot'em up beginners, so it clearly doesn't serve being a true "shmup" but a "puzzle" game.

[pixeljunkie]

PS - While it's cute that everyone has repeated "Ikaruga is a puzzle game" to the point where some people actually believe it now, it really isn't, and if you include Ikaruga you basically have to include most shmups with actual scoring systems.

Agreed. You just have to memorize which enemies are coming up next in order to score better. I don't see it as being any more of a puzzle game than any other memorizer. Is R-Type a puzzle game because you have to memorize the best route through environmental hazards?

+1

[xris]

Shmup fighter, Destrega for psx. A decent 3D fighter with an emphasis on fireball combat. Good for it's time, especially from Koei. Lots of charas, lots of long range attacks. The hand to hand sucked.

[Neko]

Shmup fighter, Destrega for psx. A decent 3D fighter with an emphasis on fireball combat. Good for it's time, especially from Koei. Lots of charas, lots of long range attacks. The hand to hand sucked.

The Psychic Force series are similar to Destrega; they're more of projectile-combat fighters.

Tukai!! Slot Shooting for the Sega Saturn is a puzzle-shmup hybrid.

[moonblood]

On that note, I think that auto-scrolling platforming (like world-1 stage-4 in SMB3) is a type of 2D gaming that has yet to have its potential awesomeness exploited.

Atomic Runner / Chelnov is pretty cool

[Observer]

STG + full 3D sphere shooting action + mechs + kickass + cheesy live action acting = Press start, Omega Boost!

STG + Dungeon Crawler/Isometric game = Erst Kerf (and, what's better, it quite works!)

STG + Arkanoid = Touhou 1 ~ The Highly Responsive to Prayers (not sure this one was a good idea)

[EinhanderZwei]

STG + full 3D sphere shooting action + mechs + kickass + cheesy live action acting = Press start, Omega Boost!

Hell yeah, this game kicks ASS! And I mean, ASS!

STG + Dungeon Crawler/Isometric game = Erst Kerf (and, what's better, it quite works!)

And what about stuff like Alien Shooter?

[Ghegs]

On that note, I think that auto-scrolling platforming (like world-1 stage-4 in SMB3) is a type of 2D gaming that has yet to have its potential awesomeness exploited.

Atomic Runner / Chelnov is pretty cool

I wish there'd be more of these. There are few somewhat similar ones on PCE (Genji Tsushin Agedama and Veigues Tactical Gladiator) but I recall at least the former was kinda meh when I tried it way back when.

[Neko]

Found another interesting versus puzzle-shmup: Dolucky no Puzzle Tour '94

[Obiwanshinobi]

Wolf Fang - 2D jumpy run'n'gun with auto-sidescrolling.

[ROBOTRON]

Anybody here ever play Shatter? I know its a brick breaker but it feels more like a hybrid shmup.



this game is so baddass.

[Jeneki]

The NES version of Section Z added an exploration aspect to the game. There's branching paths at the end of each "section", which you needed to explore to find weapons, upgrade energy, and unlock certain paths. I always laughed about how touching a door without unlocking it first KILLS YOU.

[lgb]

SHMUPS + Fighting = Touhou games

Not really. Senko no Ronde (Wartech) on Arcade/Xbox360 is closer to SHMUPS + Fighting

he was talking about the Touhou games that actually are fighters: Immaterial and Missing Power, Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, and the expansion pack for the latter; the Story Mode plays less like a fighting game arcade/story mode and more like a real shmup/fighting crossover

also Daemon Bride is a commercialized take on said Touhou games

What we need is a bullet hell game that generate itself automatically from any music file (MP3, OGG, name a few), a mechanism just like Audiosurf, but generates bullet pattern.

Bullet Philharmonic Orchestra

[Reaper gI]

STG + Arkanoid = Touhou 1 ~ The Highly Responsive to Prayers (not sure this one was a good idea)

Latter stages of Nayukanoid get very very shooty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qEmI7q44Vk

Touhou fighters are a bit shooty in arcade single player. Also bosses for mystical chain.
Too many H-STGs to count.
All arena ones where you get melee weapons and some shooting stuff like PKA (pocket Kanon and Air), bosses especially.

weird genre crosses are fairly common in dojin soft, I await turn based STGs with utter amazement for anyone who could make that not suck.

[lgb]

the closest you're going to get to that is Knights in the Nightmare, or something like Archon but with shooting battles

[cuttingagent]

I await turn based STGs with utter amazement for anyone who could make that not suck.

I was just thinking of that last night. You could have to dodge bullets while waiting for your turn meter to refill so you could unleash your own danmaku spells. You could use the 4 face buttons as a d-pad for navving the menus and the triggers for select/cancel. The beauty part would be that unlike an RPG you don't get time to think about SHIT because you're having to multitask dodging and using spells. If you had to use heal spells and the like alongside offensive spells, man, you'd just be PRAYING for a long cutscene so you could rest your poor brain. I think it could work pretty well--if integrated competently.

[Captain]

What we need is a bullet hell game that generate itself automatically from any music file (MP3, OGG, name a few), a mechanism just like Audiosurf, but generates bullet pattern.

Shmusicup

[Kollision]

SHMUPS-Puzzler: Twinkle Star Sprites

Why do people insist on this?
TSS can be many things, but puzzler? No way.

[Drum]

SHMUPS-Puzzler: Twinkle Star Sprites

Why do people insist on this?
TSS can be many things, but puzzler? No way.

It shares a few similarities with Puyo Puyo and the like. Not wholly superficial similarities either.

My pick: Dan Da Dan.

Not really any room for quibbling about this one, pretty straight genre mashup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08prtYUKx2Y

Fun game.