Your all time favorites.
Out: Blood Omen, Toshinden, and Jumping Flash. Replacements: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Twisted Metal, Tekken 1/2/3.Turrican wrote:Speaking of such lists, 1up.com has a "Definitive Dozen" feature for PS1 that I agree very much with:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.off ... Id=3143465
If I could add two games to the above list, and turn the Ten to a Dozen, I'd add Super Mario Bros 3 and Tetris (GB)
Hmm, I ran a poll like this on the SegaXtreme boards a while back. At that time I posted this:
1. Metal Slug (Neo Geo)
2. Rez (Dreamcast)
3. Shinobi (Arcade)
4. Civilization (PC)
5. Fallout (PC)
6. Rastan (Arcade)
7. Shining Force (Genesis)
8. Flashback (multiple platforms)
9. Donpachi (Arcade, PSX/SAT)
10. ... hard to nail down, but I'll say Streets of Rage 2 (Gen)
Although, interestengly, my opinions have changed a bit since then. I'd probably swap Shinobi and Rez's positions, and also swap Civilization with Fallout. In place of DP I might but DDP, but I'm still not sure on that one.
edit - didn't realize there were so many Shinobi fans here. Right on! Shinobi and Rastan were my first loves in the arcade. I had done a fair bit of gaming (mostly on Atari) before that, but those two (along with others, a bit later, like Paperboy, Cadash, Double Dragon, and Rampage) were the games that made me want to hang out in the arcade or corner store all day. Anyway, the original Shinobi is a masterpiece, and doesn't get nearly enough love in the gaming press.
1. Metal Slug (Neo Geo)
2. Rez (Dreamcast)
3. Shinobi (Arcade)
4. Civilization (PC)
5. Fallout (PC)
6. Rastan (Arcade)
7. Shining Force (Genesis)
8. Flashback (multiple platforms)
9. Donpachi (Arcade, PSX/SAT)
10. ... hard to nail down, but I'll say Streets of Rage 2 (Gen)
Although, interestengly, my opinions have changed a bit since then. I'd probably swap Shinobi and Rez's positions, and also swap Civilization with Fallout. In place of DP I might but DDP, but I'm still not sure on that one.
edit - didn't realize there were so many Shinobi fans here. Right on! Shinobi and Rastan were my first loves in the arcade. I had done a fair bit of gaming (mostly on Atari) before that, but those two (along with others, a bit later, like Paperboy, Cadash, Double Dragon, and Rampage) were the games that made me want to hang out in the arcade or corner store all day. Anyway, the original Shinobi is a masterpiece, and doesn't get nearly enough love in the gaming press.
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Alright, time to discuss a bit some of these fine selections: 
Still one of my fave racing games, although I always have a tough time deciding between it and Super Mario Kart. Mario Kart 64 is the ultimate 4 player game in my opinion, better than Bomberman -- just total mayhem! Although for one-player action, I like Wave Race 64 the best -- I think its control is perfect.
Out Run still kicks tail too. Sega really knew how to make great arcade machines back then -- the Out Run sitdown cab, the actual bike for Super Hang-On etc. I like Turbo Out Run even better -- was especially good at it way back when -- as well as Super Monaco GP, which is certainly one of the best racing games I've ever played. There was nothing like playing that one, with the awesome force feedback steering wheel and all the gearshifting you need to do around the hugely technical Monte Carlo track. Ahh, memories....
Puzzle Bobble 2 has a design that I find immensely appealing, and of course the gameplay is caffeine and nicotine rolled into one -- very easy to get sucked in. My other fave puzzle game is Magical Drop 3 for the NeoGeo, where the action is hugely fast and furious.
I actually feel that Super Mario World is underrated in some ways by people who came to it after having played SMB3. They'll often cite the many suits you can use in SMB3 -- fire, frog, raccoon, tanooki, hammer bros (which is awesome, admittedly) -- and that in SMW you just have the fireflower and the cape. This is true, but you also have Yoshi, many of the levels have an alternate exit, and I think the ghosthouse and castle design is the best in the series, with some great tests of joypad dexterity and some really perplexing puzzles.


Bubble Bobble -- nothing quite like it is there? I enjoy the sequel, released eight years later in 1994, although I find the colours a bit too pastel in that one. I also enjoy Toaplan's original Snow Bros, but this one's the best I think. So much fun, especially after you've powered up your character with rapid-fire long-range bubbles! Level 99 is a real bitch too, which makes it that much more rewarding when you finally do beat it and can pop the bubble of the game's one and only boss character on level 100.
Robotron!
Is there a more intense game than this one? Once the game really gets going -- which happens distressingly quickly -- it seems you are rarely more than about two missteps away from your inevitable demise. There is so much stuff going on in this classic, there's no time to think, you must react, now, in order to have any chance at all. Awesome game, I thought about putting it on my list as well, but only after ten spots had already been claimed. I like Smash TV too, but it simply doesn't provide me with the same rush as the insane Robotron.
What's this? Some kind of FMV or something? (Obviously, I haven't played it myself....)

Last Blade! Is there anything more beautiful on the Neo? Astonishing artwork and animation -- no repeating backgrounds either -- immersive sounds and music, typically fabulous SNK play control and fight mechanics. An incredible game. I'm actually not that big into fighters, but I can't help but admire what SNK accomplished with the Neo: Last Blade, Samurai Shodown 2, Real Bout Fatal Fury 2, Mark of the Wolves, KoF '99 et aliis -- truly games for the ages.
It seemed like the "clues" were red herrings more often than not, and I remember kneeling at the right place at the right time purely out of desperation, after having exhausted all other possibilites! You can imagine how I fell out of my chair, unable to speak, when I unlocked something by doing so....
There really are some great titles on the Genny, aren't there?


As for SM64, I don't revisit this game very often as compared with Mario's 2D incarnations, but this was really something when it was released in 1996, wasn't it? I remember being kind of lost, all wondering and almost dazed, in this incredible 3D world. And getting the final few of the 120 stars is a great challenge too.
I've always found Gaplus a bit much, but Galaga '88 is great fun. I still like the original Galaga best however.
Kuribo's Shoe is unforgettable!
Yep, that's me. I spent forever in the arcades -- back when there were arcades -- trying to make my pocketful of quarters go as far as they possibly could. Good times.... 

F-Zero is awesome isn't itMarc wrote:F-Zero
Out Run
Puzzle Bobble 2
Super Mario World

Out Run still kicks tail too. Sega really knew how to make great arcade machines back then -- the Out Run sitdown cab, the actual bike for Super Hang-On etc. I like Turbo Out Run even better -- was especially good at it way back when -- as well as Super Monaco GP, which is certainly one of the best racing games I've ever played. There was nothing like playing that one, with the awesome force feedback steering wheel and all the gearshifting you need to do around the hugely technical Monte Carlo track. Ahh, memories....

Puzzle Bobble 2 has a design that I find immensely appealing, and of course the gameplay is caffeine and nicotine rolled into one -- very easy to get sucked in. My other fave puzzle game is Magical Drop 3 for the NeoGeo, where the action is hugely fast and furious.
I actually feel that Super Mario World is underrated in some ways by people who came to it after having played SMB3. They'll often cite the many suits you can use in SMB3 -- fire, frog, raccoon, tanooki, hammer bros (which is awesome, admittedly) -- and that in SMW you just have the fireflower and the cape. This is true, but you also have Yoshi, many of the levels have an alternate exit, and I think the ghosthouse and castle design is the best in the series, with some great tests of joypad dexterity and some really perplexing puzzles.
I don't imagine too many people are going to have played this one. I tried it via emulation maybe a year ago, but I didn't play through till the end, so I don't know it very well. I do prefer the NES Salamander to the arcade game, and I like the PCE version best of all, so maybe I would like the MSX version as well.Super Laydock wrote:Salamander (MSX)

I discovered Monsterworld IV only within the past year; platformers are my first love, and this is a great one, I agree. The control is so fluid, it really is a joy to move your character around. The environments are well-designed, beautifully drawn and animated with a very appealing colour palette ... gotta get my Genesis emulator working on my new machine!Herr Schatten wrote:Monsterworld IV
Bubble Bobble

Bubble Bobble -- nothing quite like it is there? I enjoy the sequel, released eight years later in 1994, although I find the colours a bit too pastel in that one. I also enjoy Toaplan's original Snow Bros, but this one's the best I think. So much fun, especially after you've powered up your character with rapid-fire long-range bubbles! Level 99 is a real bitch too, which makes it that much more rewarding when you finally do beat it and can pop the bubble of the game's one and only boss character on level 100.
I'm not as big a fan of the series as some, mostly because I don't know them all that well, but one thing's for sure -- Phantasy Star sure knocked the socks off anyone who played it back in 1988. Dragon Warrior, Final Fantasy -- these legendary series had yet to be introduced to the West, so for many, Phantasy Star was their first taste of the Japanese-style RPG.azmun wrote:Phantasy Star (Master System)
I love Super C too; I've always liked it better than Contra, and I've always liked the NES games better than the arcade originals. Fave Contra is still Contra 3 though.Andi wrote:Super C (NES)
Robotron 2084 (Arcade)
Robotron!

ahar wrote:the opening scene of Chrono Cross

I've heard great things about this one; did you manage to play all three components, or just the one that was released in the West? As an aside, I notice a heavy Sega presence in your listDiabollokus wrote:shining force 3

The West's SMB2? The one that's not really a Mario game? Ironically that's my favourite Mario game of them all. I prefer the NES version too, as compared to the remake on SNES in 1993.PaCrappa wrote:Super Mario Bros 2
Last Blade
Last Blade! Is there anything more beautiful on the Neo? Astonishing artwork and animation -- no repeating backgrounds either -- immersive sounds and music, typically fabulous SNK play control and fight mechanics. An incredible game. I'm actually not that big into fighters, but I can't help but admire what SNK accomplished with the Neo: Last Blade, Samurai Shodown 2, Real Bout Fatal Fury 2, Mark of the Wolves, KoF '99 et aliis -- truly games for the ages.
I remember this was the first game I got for my NES. It was baffling!Rob wrote:Simon's Quest

Rob wrote:I would also require at least 10 Sega Genesis games

I would, definitely.Shatterhand wrote:Are you interested in reading the name of 150 games ?

Indeed. If this didn't make my top ten, it only just missed out. It sports what is truly one of the greatest soundtracks I've ever heard, which goes a very long way towards making the game easy to spend time with. I also find it very addictive; I couldn't stop playing until I'd gotten Grand Master with both characters on each of the three configurations of each stage. And then, I continued to play....bloodflowers wrote:Tenchu

NiGHTS is something I've always wanted to play. I remember seeing it on display in the store once -- it sure looked very interesting. *sigh* May have to wait awhile to play this one.judesalmon wrote:NiGHTS
Super Mario 64
As for SM64, I don't revisit this game very often as compared with Mario's 2D incarnations, but this was really something when it was released in 1996, wasn't it? I remember being kind of lost, all wondering and almost dazed, in this incredible 3D world. And getting the final few of the 120 stars is a great challenge too.
This one will never die. It's still an excellent shmup; I always come back to it every now and again for another go.MadSteelDarkness wrote:Galaga
I've always found Gaplus a bit much, but Galaga '88 is great fun. I still like the original Galaga best however.

Another one of the great soundtracks! Really fun to play too, although it's a mite too difficult -- I've never been able to beat the last level. Also, playing without autofire is a real handbreaker. Still, an excellent take on the Xevious concept and a classic in its own right.IlMrm wrote:Dragon Spirit
nZero wrote:Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES) ... Fear the shoe.

Possibly so. I like the game lots, but I find that I can't go back to it as much as other Castlevania titles. For me, it's lacking a bit in replay value, so excellent though it is -- and as much fun as I had playing through the game before I got to know it really well -- I don't consider it one of my favourites.Turrican wrote:Castlevania SotN (I bet this one will end to be the one more frequent in ALL the posts here!)
That describes me excellently well. Appealing music goes a long way towards shaping my taste in games, films etc.Turrican wrote:it's almost a playlist... Music does influence my gaming passion so much.
it290 wrote:[Shinobi and Rastan] (along with others, a bit later, like Paperboy, Cadash, Double Dragon, and Rampage) were the games that made me want to hang out in the arcade or corner store all day


Don't know what it is about F-Zero, just the entire feel of the thing is so right. Possibly the most analogue-feeling digital racing game I ever played. Beat this to within an inch of it's life upon release, with some shit-hot lap times (the only game to this day I would ever call myself a true master of) and still play constantly to this day.
As far as Out Run goes... anyone that's played the sit-down (preferably hydraulic) cab with Splash Wave pounding out behind their ears and those still-beautiful scaled sprites tearing past at face-melting speed... I need say so more. Out Run is just RIGHT. Still Sega's finest hour IMO, everything just came together on this.
SMW has always been my favorite of the series, I know some would cite 3 as best, but I just prefered the explorative feel of World, with the alternate exits and extra maps. Classic Mario, and it's fair to say that along with 3 and Yoshi's Island, 2D platforming never got any better.
Puzzle Bobble 2 - just the entire puzzle design does it for me. I found the features added in the subsequent games (pullys and whatnot) uneccessary distractions, the purity and simplicity of 2 is what edges it for me.
Some interesting choices on here, keep them coming guys.
As far as Out Run goes... anyone that's played the sit-down (preferably hydraulic) cab with Splash Wave pounding out behind their ears and those still-beautiful scaled sprites tearing past at face-melting speed... I need say so more. Out Run is just RIGHT. Still Sega's finest hour IMO, everything just came together on this.
SMW has always been my favorite of the series, I know some would cite 3 as best, but I just prefered the explorative feel of World, with the alternate exits and extra maps. Classic Mario, and it's fair to say that along with 3 and Yoshi's Island, 2D platforming never got any better.
Puzzle Bobble 2 - just the entire puzzle design does it for me. I found the features added in the subsequent games (pullys and whatnot) uneccessary distractions, the purity and simplicity of 2 is what edges it for me.
Some interesting choices on here, keep them coming guys.
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F-Zero: I played it to death too. I don't think I was ever world-class, but some of my times were decent -- we should compare a few! I remember being proud of pulling a 2:22:89 in practice on Port Town 2, which gets my vote as the best track in the game, and one of my favourite tracks in any game (along with the aforementioned Monaco, Rainbow Road in SMKart, Grand Valley Speedway in Grand Turismo, and myriad others). One thing I love in F-Zero is passing the backmarkers -- or anyone really; you're often left with little space, and forced to the outside, or have to take them going into a corner, and if you screw up and hit the barrier, all your momentum is lost. Great game.
Your description of Out Run is right on. A singular experience, something only Sega seemed capable of in the mid to late eighties.
If you consider Castlevania a platformer, then I do think platforming got a wee bit better than with 2D Mario, but I'm not here to quibble.
As for PB2, I agree completely that some of the magic is lost in PB3 and PB4. PB2 added enough stuff over the original to go from very good to really great, and I think Taito should have left well enough alone at that point.
Your description of Out Run is right on. A singular experience, something only Sega seemed capable of in the mid to late eighties.
If you consider Castlevania a platformer, then I do think platforming got a wee bit better than with 2D Mario, but I'm not here to quibble.

As for PB2, I agree completely that some of the magic is lost in PB3 and PB4. PB2 added enough stuff over the original to go from very good to really great, and I think Taito should have left well enough alone at that point.
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I'll try but it's a hard one.
I've probably forgot about afew already but here goes-
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Super Mario AllStars
Super Mario World
Street Fighter 2' Dash
Streets of Rage 1
Streets of Rage 2
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Deus Ex
The Legend of Zelda:A Link to the Past
I've probably forgot about afew already but here goes-
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Super Mario AllStars
Super Mario World
Street Fighter 2' Dash
Streets of Rage 1
Streets of Rage 2
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Deus Ex
The Legend of Zelda:A Link to the Past
My Trying Not To
Not quite my "definitive" list since there more than 200 games that could easily fit into that list, but here goes:
In alphabetical order:
01. CastleVania Symphony of The Night (PS-1)
02. Chaos Engine (AMIGA)
03. Doom (PC DOS)
04. Hexen (PC CD-ROM)
05. Lords of Thunder (PCE DUO)
06. Mega Man X3 (PC CD-ROM)
07. Ninja Gaiden 2 (NES)
08. Thunder Force III (Genesis)
09. Turrican II (AMIGA / PC DOS)
10. Zelda 3 - A Link to The Past (SNES)
In alphabetical order:
01. CastleVania Symphony of The Night (PS-1)
02. Chaos Engine (AMIGA)
03. Doom (PC DOS)
04. Hexen (PC CD-ROM)
05. Lords of Thunder (PCE DUO)
06. Mega Man X3 (PC CD-ROM)
07. Ninja Gaiden 2 (NES)
08. Thunder Force III (Genesis)
09. Turrican II (AMIGA / PC DOS)
10. Zelda 3 - A Link to The Past (SNES)
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Yep, SMB2 in the West. My family moved to Portland the summer after it came out. Me and my brother had no friends so we'd play that one repeatedly. My favorite Mario game easily. I like all three versions, the NES, the SNES and the GBA. Even with shite uneccesary voice acting, it's gold.Bydobasher wrote:The West's SMB2? The one that's not really a Mario game? Ironically that's my favourite Mario game of them all. I prefer the NES version too, as compared to the remake on SNES in 1993.PaCrappa wrote:Super Mario Bros 2
Last Blade
Last Blade! Is there anything more beautiful on the Neo? Astonishing artwork and animation -- no repeating backgrounds either -- immersive sounds and music, typically fabulous SNK play control and fight mechanics. An incredible game. I'm actually not that big into fighters, but I can't help but admire what SNK accomplished with the Neo: Last Blade, Samurai Shodown 2, Real Bout Fatal Fury 2, Mark of the Wolves, KoF '99 et aliis -- truly games for the ages.
I honestly dislike most SNK fighters and I'm generally not a big Neo Geo fan. However, the first Last Blade is one of the greatest games ever made in any genre on any platform. As you said, it's absolutely gorgeous and controls so perfectly. I want to play this NOW! Seriously though, I believe that to be the MVS' best fighter and even the sequel pales in comparison.
Pa
Do people actually read these lists?
On that note,
Puyo Puyo 2
Crazy Taxi
Dangun Feveron
Super Pang (or perhaps Mighty Pang)
Gunstar Heroes
Mr. Driller
Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram
Contra (NES)
R.C. Pro-Am
Dance Maniax (even though I'm too tall to play it without ducking a little bit)
Saboten Bombers
Tetris
Wario Ware
On that note,
Puyo Puyo 2
Crazy Taxi
Dangun Feveron
Super Pang (or perhaps Mighty Pang)
Gunstar Heroes
Mr. Driller
Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram
Contra (NES)
R.C. Pro-Am
Dance Maniax (even though I'm too tall to play it without ducking a little bit)
Saboten Bombers
Tetris
Wario Ware
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it is FMV, and it is absolutely stunning. the music, the graphics... uhh, i'm getting a hard-on just thinking about it (...Bydobasher wrote:What's this? Some kind of FMV or something? (Obviously, I haven't played it myself....)captain ahar wrote:the opening scene of Chrono Cross

and the MSX Salamander (i have it for Saturn though) is incredible... maniacally difficult, yes, but still incredible.
and if you are interested MCvans still has brand new ones at 10 bucks a pop here (and you get Gradius 2 MSX which is another quality pain in my 8-bit ass.

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Hope I'm not too late here...but here it goes in no particular order.
1. Resident Evil 1 - Oh my, please tell me I'm not the only person who think this game was the stepping stone to all other survival horror games....I could alredy hear the shot gun blast to a zombies head. Clever,scary and most of all its a fun blast fest with puzzel. "...mmm is this Chris's blood?"
2. Caslevania:SOTN - needs no introduction
3. Axeley - The best shooter on the Snes...too bad people nowadays don't appreciate the uniqueness of the games vertical view.
4. Metal Gear Solid - I love all of the MG, but this one holds a special place in my heart with its awesome graphics,gameplay and story.. The endless enemy interaction is worth getting just for that. Its all about Johnny Sasaki.
5. Double Dragon(nes) - The master of side scroller beat em' up. During all of my year in grade school, it was all about if I wanted to be Billy or Jimmy after I get off the bus.
6. FF7 - The first rpg that truly made me a fan, and for good reason. Awesome story, beautifull graphics...its just an epic game. Admit it, who cried when Aeris died?
7. Strider (gen) - Ahhh, the game that made me jealous of all my friends who owned the Genesis. Even today, its the most kick-ass action platformer around. Bad-ass character, brilliant level design and even more bad-ass bosses.
8. King oF FIghter 95 - My fav fighting game just for the fact that I'm the master of it while I sucked at Street Fighter. I get a kick out of the diffrent slap/punch/kick animation.
9. Super Mario Brother - Its everyone's favorite Mario. My sister, mom and other non-gamer likes to play it once in a while. Anyone else still remember how to do the 1UP trick?
10. Y's Book 1 and 2- The best videogame experience I've ever had the pleasure of playing through. I started laughing like a little kid when I first heard the voice intoduction "Y's...the idea utopia.." b/c it was so unreal at the time.
1. Resident Evil 1 - Oh my, please tell me I'm not the only person who think this game was the stepping stone to all other survival horror games....I could alredy hear the shot gun blast to a zombies head. Clever,scary and most of all its a fun blast fest with puzzel. "...mmm is this Chris's blood?"
2. Caslevania:SOTN - needs no introduction
3. Axeley - The best shooter on the Snes...too bad people nowadays don't appreciate the uniqueness of the games vertical view.
4. Metal Gear Solid - I love all of the MG, but this one holds a special place in my heart with its awesome graphics,gameplay and story.. The endless enemy interaction is worth getting just for that. Its all about Johnny Sasaki.
5. Double Dragon(nes) - The master of side scroller beat em' up. During all of my year in grade school, it was all about if I wanted to be Billy or Jimmy after I get off the bus.
6. FF7 - The first rpg that truly made me a fan, and for good reason. Awesome story, beautifull graphics...its just an epic game. Admit it, who cried when Aeris died?
7. Strider (gen) - Ahhh, the game that made me jealous of all my friends who owned the Genesis. Even today, its the most kick-ass action platformer around. Bad-ass character, brilliant level design and even more bad-ass bosses.
8. King oF FIghter 95 - My fav fighting game just for the fact that I'm the master of it while I sucked at Street Fighter. I get a kick out of the diffrent slap/punch/kick animation.
9. Super Mario Brother - Its everyone's favorite Mario. My sister, mom and other non-gamer likes to play it once in a while. Anyone else still remember how to do the 1UP trick?
10. Y's Book 1 and 2- The best videogame experience I've ever had the pleasure of playing through. I started laughing like a little kid when I first heard the voice intoduction "Y's...the idea utopia.." b/c it was so unreal at the time.
Super Mario Bros. - The game that started it all.
Contra - Run-and-gun classic.
Akumajo Dracula - Great platformer/adventure,love it.
Shinobi - My first arcade love.
Street Fighter - The game that turned me on to fighters.
Street Fighter II - 'nuff said
Nam 1975 - Neo-Geo at its best,circa 1990.
Metal Gear Solid - Modern classic.
Guwange - Stylized vert-shmup at its best.
Pro-Gear - Horizontal-shooting love. Def.one of the best,ever.
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Contra - Run-and-gun classic.
Akumajo Dracula - Great platformer/adventure,love it.
Shinobi - My first arcade love.
Street Fighter - The game that turned me on to fighters.
Street Fighter II - 'nuff said

Nam 1975 - Neo-Geo at its best,circa 1990.
Metal Gear Solid - Modern classic.
Guwange - Stylized vert-shmup at its best.
Pro-Gear - Horizontal-shooting love. Def.one of the best,ever.
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It's interesting that some NES ports turned out to be better than the original Arcade games. At least for me that is.
I always prefered Contra, Super C & Double Dragon II on the NES, than the Arcade versions.
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The pseudo 3D vertical sages of Axelay are awesome. They have the most innovating level design seen in a shooter on any system,
I always prefered Contra, Super C & Double Dragon II on the NES, than the Arcade versions.
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The pseudo 3D vertical sages of Axelay are awesome. They have the most innovating level design seen in a shooter on any system,
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AllStars seems like cheating!
How much do you enjoy the Lost Levels? I find it borders the ridiculous at times -- could only bring myself to beat it the once.
As for it being the Neo's best, you'll get no argument from me, although I think SS2 is right there as well.

As for MSX Salamander, I'm convinced I need to revisit the game as soon as I can.
As for Ys, you're right that it was an utterly unprecedented experience way back in 1990. I'm laughing just thinking about it -- it was like an epiphany -- like, "I didn't realize that games could be like this..."
Which Akumajo Dracula? NES? SNES? MSX? x68000? Arcade?
Street Fighter is the game that turned you on to fighters? You were definitely ahead of the curve on that one.
It was the sequel that caused fighting games to explode. I barely remember Street Fighter, although I seem to recall that it was pretty slow, and that fireballs took off half your health!
Nam 1975 is great stuff, and the final boss is just out of control
just completely ridiculous -- and he's in a wheelchair!
I don't know any other game like that one. "Your operations have been watched..." 
The differences in hardware between the arcade and the home was so vast at the time, the ports inevitably ended up being very different to play. More often than not, I find that this worked to the advantage of the home systems (NES in particular, PCE to a somewhat lesser extent).
No Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Actually, that's the one that I haven't played, but I've heard that the combined Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles is the mother of all Sonic games.SheSaidDutch wrote:Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Super Mario AllStars
AllStars seems like cheating!

I think LB is better than LB2 as well. Part of that has to do with the characters in LB2 not having a backdrop to call their own; I think some "character" -- excuse the pun -- is lost by having to recycle. There's a bunch of little things though: I really prefer normal Kaede to the amped up version, and I find Yuki much more enjoyable to play in the first game....PaCrappa wrote:I believe [Last Blade] to be the MVS' best fighter and even the sequel pales in comparison
As for it being the Neo's best, you'll get no argument from me, although I think SS2 is right there as well.
Okay, well I guess I'll have to see this CC FMV for myself.captain ahar wrote:[the opening scene of Chrono Cross] is FMV, and it is absolutely stunning. the music, the graphics... uhh, i'm getting a hard-on just thinking about it (......).
and the MSX Salamander (i have it for Saturn though) is incredible... maniacally difficult, yes, but still incredible.

As for MSX Salamander, I'm convinced I need to revisit the game as soon as I can.
Double Dragon was a phenomenon in the arcades, and it was a big deal when it came home to the NES -- in vastly altered form, as was not atypical for many NES "ports". The one that I really love is Double Dragon 2 for NES; I still come back to it every now and again, and it's always been a blast to play with a friend. That was something I missed in Double Dragon NES -- the two-player option.nsonthi77@hotmail.com wrote:Double Dragon (nes) - The master of side scroller beat em' up. During all of my year in grade school, it was all about if I wanted to be Billy or Jimmy after I get off the bus.
Y's Book 1 and 2- The best videogame experience I've ever had the pleasure of playing through. I started laughing like a little kid when I first heard the voice intoduction "Y's...the idea utopia.." b/c it was so unreal at the time
As for Ys, you're right that it was an utterly unprecedented experience way back in 1990. I'm laughing just thinking about it -- it was like an epiphany -- like, "I didn't realize that games could be like this..."

BIG wrote:Akumajo Dracula - Great platformer/adventure,love it.
Street Fighter - The game that turned me on to fighters.
Nam 1975 - Neo-Geo at its best,circa 1990.

Street Fighter is the game that turned you on to fighters? You were definitely ahead of the curve on that one.

Nam 1975 is great stuff, and the final boss is just out of control



Me too. I also prefer Double Dragon 3, Salamander, Bionic Commando, the crazy Guerrilla War, Rygar, and -- although it's so different you can barely even call it a port -- Ninja Gaiden.ST Dragon wrote:It's interesting that some NES ports turned out to be better than the original Arcade games. At least for me that is.
I always prefered Contra, Super C & Double Dragon II on the NES, than the Arcade versions
The differences in hardware between the arcade and the home was so vast at the time, the ports inevitably ended up being very different to play. More often than not, I find that this worked to the advantage of the home systems (NES in particular, PCE to a somewhat lesser extent).
In no particular order:
Super Mario Allstars + World (SNES) - All the great 2-D Marios in one soild SNES cart! (Is mentioning this game cheating?)
F-Zero (SNES) - THE racing game that got me into racing games. Always found those slow brown cars annoying as hell, but they made the game fun and challenging. Great feel of the cars as well.
Earthbound (SNES) - C'mon, you know I was going to mention this one. A very fun and strange RPG.
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 (PC) - Who doesn't like blowing evil Commies up? Plus, I love the general cheesiness of the units' dialog. The expansion pack Yuri's Revenge rocks as well. Of course, I love the C&C series as a whole, but if I had to pick one, it'd be this one.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES) - This was my first Zelda game and it totally blew me away.
Descent II (PC) - An FPS in which you pilot a space fighter, explore mining shafts, and blow the crap out of robots!!
Tetris (Gameboy) - As addicting as it ever was since the 80's. I'll never get that A-Type music out of my head!
Batrider (Arcade) - Some consider it the "true" sequel to Garegga. I simply love the "Raizing Allstars" theme. Lots of ships to pick from (I do hate the whole team thing and use Player select)
Dodonpachi (Arcade) - Cave shmup goodness at it's best!!
Doom (PC) - The original kill-a-thon FPS game!
Super Mario Allstars + World (SNES) - All the great 2-D Marios in one soild SNES cart! (Is mentioning this game cheating?)
F-Zero (SNES) - THE racing game that got me into racing games. Always found those slow brown cars annoying as hell, but they made the game fun and challenging. Great feel of the cars as well.
Earthbound (SNES) - C'mon, you know I was going to mention this one. A very fun and strange RPG.
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 (PC) - Who doesn't like blowing evil Commies up? Plus, I love the general cheesiness of the units' dialog. The expansion pack Yuri's Revenge rocks as well. Of course, I love the C&C series as a whole, but if I had to pick one, it'd be this one.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (SNES) - This was my first Zelda game and it totally blew me away.
Descent II (PC) - An FPS in which you pilot a space fighter, explore mining shafts, and blow the crap out of robots!!
Tetris (Gameboy) - As addicting as it ever was since the 80's. I'll never get that A-Type music out of my head!
Batrider (Arcade) - Some consider it the "true" sequel to Garegga. I simply love the "Raizing Allstars" theme. Lots of ships to pick from (I do hate the whole team thing and use Player select)
Dodonpachi (Arcade) - Cave shmup goodness at it's best!!
Doom (PC) - The original kill-a-thon FPS game!
Shmups: It's all about blowing stuff up!
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10. Super Mario Advance 4: SMB 3 (GBA)
9. Jet Set Radio Future (XBOX)
8. Soul Calibur (DC)
7. Final Fantasy VII (PS1)
6. Seiken Densetsu III (SFC)
5. Street Fighter III: Double Impact (DC)
4. Chrono Trigger (SNES)
3. Resident Evil 4 (gamecube)
2. Street Fighter Zero 3 (saturn)
1. Final Fantasy III (SNES)
9. Jet Set Radio Future (XBOX)
8. Soul Calibur (DC)
7. Final Fantasy VII (PS1)
6. Seiken Densetsu III (SFC)
5. Street Fighter III: Double Impact (DC)
4. Chrono Trigger (SNES)
3. Resident Evil 4 (gamecube)
2. Street Fighter Zero 3 (saturn)
1. Final Fantasy III (SNES)
Meh, I'm skimming through it, but these "list" topics are tough on the eyes, and on the patience...Davey wrote:Do people actually read these lists?
Anyways, I'm in the time-wasting mood, so I'll slap my favs up here too.
10. Final Fantasy Tactics
9. Secret of Evermore
8. Mega Man 2
7. Tales of Destiny 2 (aka Eternia, on PS1)
6. Battle Garegga
5. Super Metroid
4. Counter-Strike 1.6 (PC)
3. Ketsui
2. Super Smash Bros. Melee
1. Half-Life
"No beer until you've finished your tequila!"
FatCobra wrote:In no particular order:
Super Mario Allstars + World (SNES) - All the great 2-D Marios in one soild SNES cart! (Is mentioning this game cheating?)
F-Zero (SNES) - THE racing game that got me into racing games. Always found those slow brown cars annoying as hell, but they made the game fun and challenging. Great feel of the cars as well.
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 (PC) - Who doesn't like blowing evil Commies up? Plus, I love the general cheesiness of the units' dialog. The expansion pack Yuri's Revenge rocks as well. Of course, I love the C&C series as a whole, but if I had to pick one, it'd be this one.
Descent II (PC) - An FPS in which you pilot a space fighter, explore mining shafts, and blow the crap out of robots!!
Tetris (Gameboy) - As addicting as it ever was since the 80's. I'll never get that A-Type music out of my head!
Nice list.
I'm still trying to track down Mario all-stars for my SNES. It totally blew me away when I played Mario 2 in the ALl-Stars compilation back in 1995. It so happens to be my favourite Mario game & it looks so sweet with all those cool 256 colours!
F-Zero was cool, but the game that got me into racing games was Jaguar XJ220 on the good old AMIGA 500. I spent all summer of '92 to complete it with some mates. Some of the most memorable & well suited soundtracks were in that game... Thrash Pig comes to mind.
Command & Conquer Red Alert 2... Was that an awesome game!?... Raiding against your mates heavily fortified base with a horde of Apocalypse tanks, protected by the iron curtain Nona weapon... priceless!

I liked C & C Tiberian Sun's story line, theme & videos better though.
Descent 2. It surprise me that & it’s prequel don't get much love around here...?
Descent 1 was actually the 1st true 3D FPS, 2 whole years before Carmack's Quake 1.
I've only completed Descent 1. Even though the game gets a bit boring & repetitive after level 15, it does have one of the nastiest final Bosses I've seen in a FPS shooter. The Green Plasma weapon that you charge before firing, is one of the most devastating weapons I’ve encounter in a FPS, after the BFG9000...
Tetris (GameBoy) this is addicting as crack! I know what you mean about the A-Type track. I remember playing this & R-Type GB, at the swimming race meetings with the school's team, waiting for my turn to race.
[quote="Bydobasher" & "Turrican"]
Turrican wrote:
it's almost a playlist... Music does influence my gaming passion so much.
That describes me excellently well. Appealing music goes a long way towards shaping my taste in games, films etc. [/quote]
Count me in too.
Music is the most important factor in my book. One of the reasons I got an AMIGA back in the day, was so I could enjoy the awesome music of Turrican II, Agony & the remixed boss music of R-Type II.
Ah... the good ol' days....

My complete “favourite” games list is shaped based on the music quality rather than the graphics.
Objectively, Turrican II (AMIGA) doesn’t have the best graphics in the genre, but due to Chris Huelsbeck’s magical music theme & great gameplay, it’s still loved till today.
Here are a few more games I just couldn’t resist from adding to my favorites list:
Alien Breed Special Edition '92 (AMIGA) – The atmosphere & gameplay in this game is incredible. Great improvement to it’s prequel.. This is one of the few games with very limited music, which I actually loved.
Agony (AMIGA) – A master piece.
Apidya (AMIGA) – R-Type with bad-ass insects & an incredible soundtrack, brought to us from our good friends from Germany.
Battle Toads - Double Dragon (NES/SNES/Genesis) - Humor in the Toad's series is hilarious! This couldn't be an exception
Batman (NES) – I can never get the Boss music out of my head.
Faxanadu (NES) – Excellent NES side scrolling RPG.
Final Fight (Arcade) – Haggar performing a bad-ass body slam, on a Colombian Drug lord, in the slums of New York city… Can’t get any better than that!
Gaiares (Genesis) – The Toz system & T-Braster, one of the coolest weapon combinations. I wonder if Telenet copied “T-Braster” from Techno softs's “Hunter” in Thunder Force III, or was it the other way around.
Galaxy Force II (Arcade) – We had to wait in a large queue to play this at the local arcades. I have to get one of these cool rotating & vibrating arcade cabinets with the hydraulic pumps.
Gates of Zendokon (Lynx) – Fighting the Big Mother Brain Boss, under your bed covers at 12:00 in the night, whilst trying to avoid getting spotted by your mom… priceless.
Gynoug - Wings of Wor (Genesis) – From the creators of Chou Aniki series, with a theme similar to Lords of Thunder on the DUO.
Heretic (PC CD-ROM) – Surpasses Doom in many ways & features one of the most sinister & evil looking weapons wielded in the FPS genre, the Gauntlets that would suck the badesses souls!
Ikari Warriors III (NES) – Better than the arcade version imo.
Double Dragon II (NES) - I always considered this better than the arcade version.
Dune 2 (AMIGA/PC DOS) – This is where it all started, the cradle of the RTS genre. Westwood studios at their best.
Dune 2000 (PC CD-ROM) – Incredible enhanced version of Dune 2000 with an awesome soundtrack. (Land of Sand)
Panzer Dragoon 1 & 2 (Saturn) – The main reason I got a Saturn
Raiden Project (PS-1) – The best arcade perfect conversion on any system imo. I still hum The remixed 1st level track of Raiden 1.
Shadow of The Ninja (NES) - Natsume at their best.
Sol Blade (PS-1) – Gameplay & music are better than SC1 & 2 imo.
Strider (Genesis) – Better than the Arcade & PS-1 version imo.
The Lost Vikings (AMIGA/PC DOS) – This is addictive as crack. Sadly the 2nd part on the SNES wasn’t as good.
Lion Heart (AMIGA) – A technical marvel on the basic Amiga 500 hardware.
Mega Man 2 (NES) – All time favorite. Simple, fun & the most catchy music tunes of the series.
Monkey Island 1, the Secret of (AMIGA/PC DOS) - Some cool catchy tunes
Monkey Island 2 – Le Chuck's Revenge (AMIGA/PC DOS) - Same as above.
Unreal (PC CD-ROM) – I took my time with this & it was 6 of the most fun months of my life. Encountering some of the coolest sci-fi scenery & beasts, felt like living an actual sci-fi novel! The music was epic & perfectly fitted for the game theme.
An incredible experience indeed.
Saint Dragon - AMIGA - Jaleco 1989
"In the first battle against the Guardian's weapons, created with Vasteel Technology, humanity suffered a crushing defeat."
Thunder Force V
"In the first battle against the Guardian's weapons, created with Vasteel Technology, humanity suffered a crushing defeat."
Thunder Force V
I think Techno Soft probably copied Hunter from Thunder Force II for Thunder Force III. It's also not a very distinct weapon.Gaiares (Genesis) – The Toz system & T-Braster, one of the coolest weapon combinations. I wonder if Telenet copied “T-Braster” from Techno softs's “Hunter” in Thunder Force III, or was it the other way around.