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Re: Big 3 Gun Shooting (Time Crisis Collection for PS3 Move)

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Fudoh wrote:If Time Crisis and Deadstorm Pirates didn't get you, House of the Dead Overkill Extended is a definitive reason to get a move controller!
Good point. I'm thinking the FPS stuff isn't worthwhile with move, but the games you mention are probably awesome.
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You can't play these with a Guncom3?
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I doubt it. Sony's doing what they can to push Move.
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@professor ganson

FPS play very well with Move (eg. Killzone 3). It's a whole new experience.

I suggest you get the official 'Sony Playstation Move Shooting Attachment', too. It's not the same without.
And for playing FPS, you basically have to buy a navigation controller; otherwise you need to hold your dualshock 3 with your left hand.

FWIW, there are quite a few worthwhile Move games by now, though that's a bit off topic.

Ninja edit: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39408
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Helpful post, Friendly. Thanks for that! Having already spent a fair amount on Christmas, I might have to wait a bit to get moving on getting a Move set-up. But the more I hear, the more I think it'll be worthwhile.
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Anyone have the downloadable psn version of Razing Storm? I have the disc version and I have this problem
I´m playing with the sharp shooter gun attachment and I cannot get the Time Crises reload function mapped to the Sharp shooters shotgun style reload thing.
This works perfectly with House of the Dead III, where you just reload and shoot, shutgun style!
Is this possible in the PSN version of Razing Storm? Or is it 100% the same?
Don´t make me mod my sharp shooter again.
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Fortune sure has been smiling on me lately. About two weeks ago I popped in to a my local EB and found not only a copy of Mega Man ZX, but a used GunCon3 on sale for only $12. Naturally I snapped it up but I was disappointed when I couldn't find TC4 or Big 3. Time passed. Then this past weekend, when I was visiting a friend in the US, we randomly decided to pop into a game store to grab Ridge Racer: Unbounded and low and behold I found myself a copy of Time Crisis: Raizing Storm.

Managed to put in sometime today and I'm loving it. Deadstorm Pirates in particular was such a fun little addition. I love the game's style and appreciate the change from playing a soldier. The only problem I have is the crosshair. I wish I could turn it off.
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Playing the actual Deadstorm Pirates cab is quite an experience not to be missed. There's one up & running at the local Boomer's arcade. It's nice to be able to play DSP at home indeed.

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Does anyone play Razing Storm`s FPS mode online? I`ve played like 200 matches already or more. So bad yet I keep playing. :(
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Jonathan Ingram wrote:Does anyone play Razing Storm`s FPS mode online? I`ve played like 200 matches already or more. So bad yet I keep playing. :(
How exactly does that mode work?
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njiska wrote:How exactly does that mode work?
Like your standard FPS. You use Move for aiming and DualShock 3(or Move navigation controller) for moving. Alternatively, you could play it with DS3 only(aiming is done with the right analog stick in this case), but that would defeat the point. There are four levels in total. The story continues from the arcade game.

The online multiplayer features four gameplay modes(Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, King of the Hill and Capture the Flag) across four maps. It also introduces the CoD-inspired skill system absent in the single-player campaign - you earn EXP for scoring kills which goes towards unlocking different skills like bumping your health, upping damage for a particular weapon etc.

I know many people hate the FPS mode, but I think it`s a decent distraction and I quite like it for what it is.
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Jonathan Ingram wrote: Like your standard FPS. You use Move for aiming and DualShock 3(or Move navigation controller) for moving. Alternatively, you could play it with DS3 only(aiming is done with the right analog stick in this case), but that would defeat the point. There are four levels in total. The story continues from the arcade game.
So with the guncon3 I'm assuming the ugly off-side stick is used in lieu of a Dual shock?
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njiska wrote:So with the guncon3 I'm assuming the ugly off-side stick is used in lieu of a Dual shock?
DS3 and the navigation controller are interchangeable. It`s up to you what you want to use the Guncon 3 with.
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I'm planning on picking this up soon when I can afford the Goldeneye Sharpshooter bundle. It's gone up on Amazon thanks to the announcement of 007 Legends though >.<

I'd like to have this game picked apart for me but haven't found any thorough blogs for it yet. I really don't want to read the reviews that gave it super low scores because I'm almost certain they were basing it on the fact that it's an on rails lightgun game and not Call of Duty or whatever. I don't see how it could get such low scores, being a triple pack collection and all. Maybe a bad taste left over from TC4 PS3?

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All of the videos of Razing Storm I've watched make it look like the Crisis Zone sequel I've always wanted. It also has the FPS-less arcade version of TC4, which seems like how it should have been done the first time around. Throw in a third game and scores of 40 (IGN :roll:) don't make any sense at all.

The internet is in drastic need of an all encompassing Time Crisis site and/or blog. Were I a rich man, surely I would provide it :?
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circuitface wrote:I really don't want to read the reviews that gave it super low scores because I'm almost certain they were basing it on the fact that it's an on rails lightgun game and not Call of Duty or whatever.
Too bad Game Informer took their Time Crisis 4 Review offline. It used to be my go to example of people reviewing games intended for markets that they don't understand. The reviewers number one complaint? No on-screen reticule. In fact he stated players would be shocked to learn there isn't an option to turn a reticule on.
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circuitface wrote:I don't see how it could get such low scores, being a triple pack collection and all. Maybe a bad taste left over from TC4 PS3?
More like a complete lack of taste in general. I wouldn`t expect these guys to recognize a good game even if it hit them in the face. House of the Dead 4 has been out for how many weeks now and not a single of these mainstream sites have given it a review yet.
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That's really a damn shame. Both the House of the Dead franchise and the Time Crisis series deserve more respect than that. These would have been a big deal not too long ago.

It isn't like on rails lightgun shooters are completely dead or anything. Resident Evil UC and DC did okay.

It was already evident that Sega didn't care much about HotD when I first saw a trailer for Overkill. It doesn't bother me because I know the game is a spinoff, and it's supposed to be Grindhouse themed, but you would have never seen anything that juvenile come out of the main series. Reminds me of when they tried to farm Altered Beasts out and that whole Golden Axe: Beast Rider nightmare. That said, I'm still interested in getting it once I pick up my Sharpshooter. However, if the pubs aren't paying attention anymore and the 'journalists' aren't even old enough (probably) to see the appeal then I guess that rules us out on ever seeing a true 5th entry for either series.

Maybe the downloads of HotD III & 4 will be enough to turn a good profit. I got 4 already. Namco should put Razing Storm and TC4 Arcade up for download.
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circuitface wrote:Maybe the downloads of HotD III & 4 will be enough to turn a good profit. I got 4 already. Namco should put Razing Storm and TC4 Arcade up for download.
Do get III as well, it´s a great port
Ah, only Deadstorm Pirates is available on psn, great game. but I recommend getting the razing storm disc. it will be cheaper and have Razing Storm and TC4 Arcade
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It was already evident that Sega didn't care much about HotD when I first saw a trailer for Overkill. It doesn't bother me because I know the game is a spinoff, and it's supposed to be Grindhouse themed, but you would have never seen anything that juvenile come out of the main series.
I have to respectfully disagree here. Overkill is a fantastic game. It`s definitely very different from the numerical entries, but it`s not worse for it. I`d never expected to enjoy Overkill as much as I did. I had expected it be a cheap cash-in on a once popular license, but it turned out to be anything but. It actually felt like the people behind it really loved what they were doing. I can`t recommend the PS3 version enough.
However, if the pubs aren't paying attention anymore and the 'journalists' aren't even old enough (probably) to see the appeal then I guess that rules us out on ever seeing a true 5th entry for either series.
I think it depends more on whether games like this are still viable for arcades(whatever is left of them anyway). I`m not entirely sure, but I think that`s where most of the revenue has historically come from. Home releases have always been secondary. Although given how much the arcade market has shrunk in recent years, I wonder if an arcade release alone is enough to recoup the dev costs.
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I think HOTDV will happen at some point. Right now Sega has operation ghost http://operation-ghost.sega.jp/en/world.html
I played it in Paris (in that movie theatre mall with the swimming pool) and while impressive, I wasn´t blown away by it. Lots of new features and gimmicks, but I like light gun games to be simple in operation. I wouldn´t be surprised if Sega is working on HOTDV right now. :o
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Jonathan Ingram wrote:
It was already evident that Sega didn't care much about HotD when I first saw a trailer for Overkill. It doesn't bother me because I know the game is a spinoff, and it's supposed to be Grindhouse themed, but you would have never seen anything that juvenile come out of the main series.
I have to respectfully disagree here. Overkill is a fantastic game. It`s definitely very different from the numerical entries, but it`s not worse for it. I`d never expected to enjoy Overkill as much as I did. I had expected it be a cheap cash-in on a once popular license, but it turned out to be anything but. It actually felt like the people behind it really loved what they were doing. I can`t recommend the PS3 version enough.
Oh I didn't mean that it's bad, I couldn't tell you if I wanted to as I haven't played it yet. I'm just saying it's juvenile with it's cussing and dick jokes. I tend to like exploitation films, so I don't even really mean that as such a bad thing. It definitely doesn't seem like a canon House of the Dead game though and from some of the videos it seems to play very differently as well.

I'm only hesitant to buy III because I already have it for X-Box & PC. It's cheap cheap though, so I'll probably snag it pretty soon. Gonna look like butt with those black borders though.
D wrote:I wouldn´t be surprised if Sega is working on HOTDV right now. :o
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The problem with Overkill is that it's a console shooter, not an arcade game. It' doesn't fit with the other HOTD's at all. It wants to be hip, cool and funny, but anything that wants to be hip and cool by it's very nature can't be (!) - it's not funny either. It has accuracy issues which will just as often continue a kill streak when you've missed as drop one when you clearly haven't. Still, it is good. In terms of basic zombie blasting it works - filled the time whilst waiting for HOTD4 to land.

I doubt you would regret getting Razing Storm - the game itself is so over the top it's nuts. Deadstorm Pirates is really great but also really short, could've done with a couple more levels at sea. Time Crisis 4 is tough, probably my least favourite of the three.
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Picked up HotD Overkill EC and Razing Storm today. I am completely and wholly in love with Razing Storm after a playthrough with my buddy. It's absolute chaos from the outset to the very last moment. The firepower is constant and ridiculous, the environments are almost completely destructible, and it feels just like the sequel to Crisis Zone I had originally thought it was before reading the poor reviews. The visuals are so clean and crisp and never slow down no matter how many splosions are happening. The only thing I dislike about it is the ridiculous Nu-Metal tracks. I can't even bash it's dumb story, it's at least better playing faceless commandos than wussy fashion models like in Time Crisis 4.

Speaking of Time Crisis 4, I really like this version of the game. It's still hard for me to get over the pussy character designs but I'm picking up a much more traditional Time Crisis vibe off of this one and find the Sharpshooter to be much better than the Guncon (with it's stupid rear analog). I really felt good about playing it and felt like I was having the pure TC arcade experience in my own home. I don't think I'll end up liking it as much as Razing Storm but it's still wonderful to have.

Haven't gotten to Deadstorm Pirates yet but will check it out when I get some free time next week or tomorrow morning.
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