Yeah, I'd rather find something that doesn't have consistent reviews about it dying after a few uses. =/dieKatze88 wrote:Yeah I wouldn't get my hopes up with either of those.
Depending your laptop, you might have an ExpressCard slot on it. ExpressCard is a much higher bandwidth interface so should be better quality and probably work a lot better since they're not software- and CPU-driven like USB devices.CaptainRansom wrote:Well, for a laptop, do I really have any other options? I wouldn't mind holding off for a month or so and spending a little more money (like around $100) if it meant I'm going to get something better. Like I said, I'm totally clueless about how this works. I just want to upload YT vids and try to stream things from my 360 or whatever else I feel like playing.
Yeah, you either want an audio/video booster to split the source signal or you need to purchase a capture device that features a passthrough.nZero wrote:I haven't had terrible luck using a Gamebridge that I picked up for ~$15 from DealExtreme a while back to do composite→USB capture. The quality is something like this from an XBox 360. There's some lag so unless you're just recording a replay you'll need to split the video signal out to a TV or something to actually play on instead of just playing in the capture preview window.
That quality is pretty much a perfect example of all I'm looking for. I don't think I'd be able to stream anything with that because of the lag though, and I really would like to record and stream if possible (probably not, honestly, since I couldn't even stream Galuda in MAME without the sound screwing up and the FPS dropping to about 20). At least I've got a solid benchmark on picture quality now!nZero wrote:I haven't had terrible luck using a Gamebridge that I picked up for ~$15 from DealExtreme a while back to do composite→USB capture. The quality is something like this from an XBox 360. There's some lag so unless you're just recording a replay you'll need to split the video signal out to a TV or something to actually play on instead of just playing in the capture preview window.
Is there any lag when you're playing while recording? If not, this might just be what I'm looking for!lettuce wrote:I got a device recently called the EZCAP116, for capturing snes gameplay and will do up to 480i and is composite and s-video compatable. I can't fault it and a bargin at £15
This. Also, just about any time you deinterlace, there will be lag. When I capture at 720p from my Xbox 360 through my Avermedia it's perfect, 1080i? like 3 frames of lag.Fudoh wrote:As long as you use USB capture with live encoding (in hardware), there'll ALWAYS be severe lag.
CaptainRansom wrote:Is there any lag when you're playing while recording? If not, this might just be what I'm looking for!
Yes, but I have seen TVs that read both from the same ports (Mostly older sony devices though). I was wondering if this one did too.Fudoh wrote:RGsB and component are different. Even if it would sync, the colors would be totally off.
RGB capture should be possible by adding a Scart to component transcoder, but then again, as the quality isn't much better as s-video, this might be overkill for this solution.
Should of gone for a EZCAP116, have none of these problemsFudoh wrote:I got the component version of the USB capture device we talked about a few weeks back.
Did cost $32 incl. international shipping and took 3 weeks to arrive from Singapure. The driver/capture tool let's you chose between MPEG1, MPEG2 und MPEG4 codec. MPEG4 is reported as VC-1 by Mediainfo and can't be edited in VDub unless it's frameserved through AVIsynth. For MPEG1/2 various bitrates are available. MPEG4 is fixed at 4MBit for 720x480 resolution.
I wouldn't call the quality great, but it's what I expected from a device in this price class. Component recording shows a little choma bleed in the reds and going down to S-Video revealed little difference. Using component allows to split the signal though before the capturing device and play on your usual gaming setup while recording on the PC.
The input/processing lag when recording in MPEG1/2 is rather high with at least 100ms, but it's suprisingly low when recording in MPEG4. Probably not low enough to record the DDP run of your life while playing on the monitor, but good enough for pretty much anything else.
Contrary to what the specs say (here and there) 480p input isn't support. On the other hand the device has no problems recording 240p and 480i and even switching between the two isn't a problem during recording.
240p and 480i are recorded at 29.97Hz, which is perfect for Youtube uploads, but not neccessarily perfect for archival purposes.
Overall pretty much a bargain and it works surprisingly well.
Fudoh wrote:which problems ? The one I got an ezcap model, likely the successor to the one you linked to.
I didn't get it to use it (I have a Blackmagic Multibridge), just wanted to see how it performs and if I can recommend it to other users without any bad conscience
If you got a Ezcap model from HK it will 99.9% be a counterfeit device and not a true Ezcap it may look the same but they are worlds apart and suffer from colour bleeding, over heating, poor sound and sync issues etc. The true Ezcap devices are produced here in the good old UK, and are only sold on their offical websites (UK & US) and eBay page. Heck you have to get the serial number from the device to join there support forums!Fudoh wrote:That's insanely cheap for YUV capture. I just ordered one (from HK) to give it a try. Even if the quality is rather low, 480p recording is big plus for Youtube uploads compared to interlaced recordings....
