Shmups with "True" Final Bosses

Wang_MacTavish · Post by **Wang_MacTavish** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:31 am

As I've been on a shmup binge all summer, I'm curious as to how many shooters have "true" final bosses, meaning ones that require you to fufill a special condition to fight them (i.e., DoDonPachi). Here are the ones I know of already:

DoDonPachi (beat first loop without continuing, get to end of second loop)

DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou (same as above, but get all 10 bees in the first 5 stages of the first loop (!?!?!))

Ikaruga (don't continue?)

Border Down (sorta - based on the border you spend the most time in, and how many norm clears you have)

Mushihimesama (play through Ultra Mode)

Giga Wing (don't continue)

Alright...now, which ones am I missing, haha? There's probably a lot, so please forgive my short list. This will probably be helpful for anyone buying something older, where FAQs / Strategy posts may not be available. They can look at this thread as a quick - reference list.[/b]

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:34 am

Well there are multiple ways to get into the DOJ loop. You always fight the last boss in Ikaruga.

Dangun Feveron - NO MISS first Loop. You are invincible during the True Last boss (unless you BOMB).

Ketsui - Finish the SPECIAL LOOP (NO MISS/NO BOMB 120+ Million points)

Donpachi has one I think.

Wang_MacTavish · Post by **Wang_MacTavish** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:42 am

Valgar wrote:Well there are multiple ways to get into the DOJ loop. You always fight the last boss in Ikaruga.

Dangun Feveron - NO MISS first Loop. You are invincible during the True Last boss (unless you BOMB).

Ketsui - Finish the SPECIAL LOOP (NO MISS/NO BOMB 120+ Million points)

Donpachi has one I think.

Oooh, what are these "multiple ways"? 'Cause the all bees + no dying way is a bit extreme.

The boss I was referring to in Ikaruga is the one after Stone-Like, where you just have to survive for a minute or two...is that what you're talking about? I don't remember facing him when I beat Ikaruga, but that was over a year ago, so my memory is foggy

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:53 am

Wang_MacTavish wrote:The boss I was referring to in Ikaruga is the one after Stone-Like, where you just have to survive for a minute or two...is that what you're talking about? I don't remember facing him when I beat Ikaruga, but that was over a year ago, so my memory is foggy

The final yellow diamond boss that you just dodge is the Stone-Like, and you play it every time. The other boss forms in chapter 5 are different forms of 'Tageri'.

Wang_MacTavish · Post by **Wang_MacTavish** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:59 am

Accutron wrote:
Wang_MacTavish wrote:The boss I was referring to in Ikaruga is the one after Stone-Like, where you just have to survive for a minute or two...is that what you're talking about? I don't remember facing him when I beat Ikaruga, but that was over a year ago, so my memory is foggy
The final yellow diamond boss that you just dodge is the Stone-Like, and you play it every time. The other boss forms in chapter 5 are different forms of 'Tageri'.

I sit corrected. I apologize to everyone for being a retard

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:00 am

DOJ - Any of the following...

- Deaths is Less than 2

- Less than 3 bombs used

- Collect all Bees in 3 stages or more (I don't know if you can die while collecting all the bees in one stage).

DDP - Any of the following...

* Lose up to two fighters.
* Depending on the fighter used, have a maximum hit count of at least the following:
o Type A: 270 hits
o Type B: 300 hits
o Type C: 330 hits
* Score at least 50 million points.
* Collect all thirteen bees in four of the six areas.

http://www.shmups.com/beepreying/old/st ... s/etc.html

Leviathean · Post by **Leviathean** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:13 am

Cho Ren Sha 68K (Finish the second loop)

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:09 pm

Progear no Arashi

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:01 pm

Progear has a loop but you just fight Volvox again, no?

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:24 pm

Valgar wrote:Progear has a loop but you just fight Volvox again, no?

That's what I thought too.

AAA · Post by **AAA** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:43 pm

Axelay has a true final boss. Can't remember exactly how you get it - perhaps you 1cc any difficulty mode or play the game on hard mode.

On the SNES subject, Contra Spirits also has a true final boss (similar conditions too) but then I'm going off topic as that's a run 'n' gun.

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:53 pm

As far as Axelay and DoDonPachi, it has nothing to do with continues...
I've 1CC both (first loops) and that was all she wrote.

In DoDonPachi, I think the requirement is to not lose more than 3 lives during the first loop.

Axelay...? Got me there, as I have no idea. In fact, I've never heard about an "extra/hidden" boss.

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:54 am

Valgar wrote:Progear has a loop but you just fight Volvox again, no?

Oh? In the video, I saw a player go up against the 3rd form of Volvox which seems to be much more difficult than the first loop version.

Post by **nZero** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:41 am

Raiden Fighters Jet.

To a some extent, the 9th level in Raiden DX Mission Charlie/Expert Mission.

Come to think of it, I think Giga Wing did something similar as well.