Extron Emotia use with PC

[spl]

I acquired an Extron Super Emotia as recommended by Fudoh's website in order to play MAME in proper res on my TV. The problem I have is that I get no picture even when booting up/not in Windows. The input LEDs flick to 4 when im powering up and then 3 when I am in windows (running 640x480) yet there is still no output on the TV.

When I tried to plug it into the DVI output of my video card with a DVI -> VGA adaptor it crashed all my drivers and I had to reload them all.

Any advice ? Fudoh?

[Fudoh]

There's hardly anything you can do wrong, since it's all plug'n'play.

Basic beginner problems include using the passthrough output instead of the BNC outputs to connect your display and having a TV which requires a switching voltage to switch to RGB, so let's start there:

You connected your TV how exactly ? BNC to Scart ? Have you made sure it's a BNC to Scart cable and not a Scart to BNC ?

Does your TV display RGB without the need for a switching voltage ? You can try this by using any home videogame system and removing pins 8 and 16 from the Scart connector.

When I tried to plug it into the DVI output of my video card with a DVI -> VGA adaptor it crashed all my drivers and I had to reload them all.

that's hardly possible and I would suspect another reason. The Emotia behaves just like an old VGA monitor. There's nothing driver related going on when connecting it to a graphics card.

[spl]

I am using the male 15pin plug labelled "CPU" from the PC VGA output, standard VGA cable with a gender bender on the Extron male plug.

Output is just using the S-video out with a S-Video to Composite adapter to test since I do not have my RGB monitor in this house.

I believe the problem is in the Nvidia control panel software. It sees the Extron as "Analog Display" but as soon as you try to enable output to it - it just disables itself and it drops off the detected displays list. Forcing display detect does not find it again.

However, I don't even get a picture in DOS when I'm booting up even though the input LED lights up on the Extron. TV picks up a signal but it's just black screen.

I will get a BNC to RCA adapter today and try the "Video" output.

[Fudoh]

Do this. The S-Video to composite adapter could be bogus...

[dieKatze88]

Do this. The S-Video to composite adapter could be bogus...

They're quite easy to make, and so long as 2 pins are connected you should get video, it will be shitty without at least 3 of the pins, but you should be able to see something.

Sounds to me like the S-Video functionality may have eaten a dick.

[Overkill]

I just received today my super emotia, can i just plug the power cord or will i need a step down power converter for my house with 220v input?

[fagin]

Juat plug it in.

[beatsgo]

I just received today my super emotia, can i just plug the power cord or will i need a step down power converter for my house with 220v input?

Looking through the super emotia brochure in french says it all:

Alimentation.................... 100-240 V 50/60 Hz, à commutation automatique

Basically it says the super emotia can take any voltage between 100-240V at either 50 or 60 HZ.

[Overkill]

Thanks! i was afraid of just destroy this hard to get psu

[Overkill]

Ok, first test, everything is working good. But im using four bnc cables to 4 phono to scart adapter like this: , its identifyed as "RGB Plus Sync, RGBS" it works good on my phillips cm8833 monitor, but on my sony triniton tv the image don't sync. Can i use an 5 bnc to vga cable, connect the 3 colors + HV sync cable to this, and the vga conector to my UMSA (arcadeforge) then a regular scart to scart to my sony trinitron? i don't have the cables at home right know and don't want to make a long trip to get it to find it won't work

[Fudoh]

Yes you can. But usually Sony TVs can be put into RGB mode manually, so you don't need an UMSA to provide the switching voltage.

[fagin]

Ok, first test, everything is working good. But im using four bnc cables to 4 phono to scart adapter like this: , its identifyed as "RGB Plus Sync, RGBS" it works good on my phillips cm8833 monitor, but on my sony triniton tv the image don't sync. Can i use an 5 bnc to vga cable, connect the 3 colors + HV sync cable to this, and the vga conector to my UMSA (arcadeforge) then a regular scart to scart to my sony trinitron? i don't have the cables at home right know and don't want to make a long trip to get it to find it won't work

That's exactly how I tested for my UMSA review tests (using the Emotia during one test). Works 100%.

[Overkill]

Working great with the UMSA on the sony crt.

Most of the time you use the emotia to play old school games, do you use the overscan or the underscan? and the 75 z button in the back, do you guys normally use it on or off? with the button on the colors seems a little to bright and washed out

[beatsgo]

Working great with the UMSA on the sony crt.

Most of the time you use the emotia to play old school games, do you use the overscan or the underscan? and the 75 z button in the back, do you guys normally use it on or off? with the button on the colors seems a little to bright and washed out

Typically it's off. I'm not completely acknowledgeable in transmission lines, but 75 Ohm Impedance button is needed for matching load from whatever input signal into the super emotia. This allows the signal to be clean, clear, and non-ghosty. I believe is dependent on the input signal, cable length, and cable impedance. Don't take my words completely true, but you can read up on transmission load impedance which explains it more clearly. Hopefully that answered your question.

[Fudoh]

Overscan/Underscan: only use overscan. With underscan the image gets zoomed out and you'll lose resolution. If you feed a clean linedoubled 480p signal and output 240p, underscan completely destroys the purpose.

Termination: depends on the TV it's connected to. There's a good chance that the image on a TV will be overly bright on one setting, so use the other....

[Overkill]

What would be the "best" video configuration in mame to get the best pciture out of the emotia??, I own a "GX" unit, I have it connected to a 21" CRT TV with component inputs, so long so far I have managed to set CPS1/CPS2 games to output an almost arcade perfect image, but other games do look blurry and badly upscaled no matter how I try to mess with video options, I'm using MameUi64 0.143u3.

In mame options are you using Direct Draw or Direct 3D? i have not tested PC output yet, only dreamcast, xbox 360, and xbox 1. Old games with low resolutions are looking good, new games don't look good forced in emotia. The good of the emotia is i can have 2 outputs, one passtrought for my lcd, and the other to my crt. And i get the emotia quite cheap with the psu, the problem is that here in portugal we pay high taxes from everything outside european union

[Fudoh]

You have to get MAME to do pure linedoubling, not fullscreen scaling. DirectDraw is the easiest way to do this. I can't remember the other settings though, it's been too long. For example: a game with 224 lines resolution has to be displays in 448 lines with 16 lines of black each on top and bottom.

If you only use a CRT and want to play hi-res games, I would set the non-interlaced to the top position. This way you get at least 480i instead of 240p.