This is a shmups forum. It contains fans of these Dreamcast shmups.Bar81 wrote:Why exactly is everyone getting excited
Please stop trolling.Bar81 wrote:You guys are like the guys in LA at 1:50AM when they start thinking the fat chicks look good. But at least they've had too much to drink, what's the excuse around here?
I think most Cave shooters are poor, but I don't disrespect those of you that like them...its just a difference of taste/opinions. I like Trizeal and Chaos Field. They are a welcome part of my shmup collection.Bar81 wrote:Why exactly is everyone getting excited when an average (Trizeal) and below average (Chaos Field) shmups get ported? You guys are like the guys in LA at 1:50AM when they start thinking the fat chicks look good. But at least they've had too much to drink, what's the excuse around here?
Because umm we like shmups?, and if any are still made/ported is reason enough to be excited. I personally rate Trizeal as good, better than many recent PS2 releases (Gigawing Generations, Psikyo packs etc..)Bar81 wrote:Why exactly is everyone getting excited when an average (Trizeal) and below average (Chaos Field) shmups get ported?
He's been doing nothing but since he joined...yet you wait until he attacks Trizeal to do something about it? *scratches head*Thunder Force wrote:Please stop trolling.Bar81 wrote:You guys are like the guys in LA at 1:50AM when they start thinking the fat chicks look good. But at least they've had too much to drink, what's the excuse around here?
Couldn't disagree more. Why bother with crappy new ones when there are so many gems from previous years...visuatrox wrote:Because umm we like shmups?, and if any are still made/ported is reason enough to be excited.Bar81 wrote:Why exactly is everyone getting excited when an average (Trizeal) and below average (Chaos Field) shmups get ported?
Trizeal better than Dragon Blaze? Pfft. And Gigawing Generations is getting a lot of praise from Rob and Rando...who know what the hell they're talking about, check the high score board. Hell, I'd rather play Strikers 1 or 2 in scaled up, non high score saving, encrappified form than bother with a mediocre shooter.I personally rate Trizeal as good, better than many recent PS2 releases (Gigawing Generations, Psikyo packs etc..)
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I'm not going to go into detail with you about another user's moderation history, or which users are on double-secret-probation*Neon wrote:He's been doing nothing but since he joined...yet you wait until he attacks Trizeal to do something about it? scratches head
Believe it or not, I´m actually excited on the grounds that a small company can enjoy some sort of succes with a game they´ve produced.Bar81 wrote:Why exactly is everyone getting excited when an average (Trizeal) and below average (Chaos Field) shmups get ported?
Being good at the games doesn't necessarily make anyone more 'right' in their opinions than anyone else.Trizeal better than Dragon Blaze? Pfft. And Gigawing Generations is getting a lot of praise from Rob and Rando...who know what the hell they're talking about, check the high score board. Hell, I'd rather play Strikers 1 or 2 in scaled up, non high score saving, encrappified form than bother with a mediocre shooter.
Word. Trizeal is very good, it just doesn't look that way. It certainly needs some time to get accustomed to, but everyone who calls it shallow or bland might simply not have spent enough time with it.qatmix wrote:I think trizeal is one of the most fun shooters Ive played for some time.
It makes no sense to release it on GC or Xbox; both are virtually dead systems and neither have a strong showing in shmups. Wasting the time and resources to port it to one of those systems would be business suicide for a small fry like Triangle Service, who already has experience developing for the PS2.Zweihander wrote:i think it's a shame that good games are getting ported to sub-par systems like PS2. :/ geez, if you're gonna port a gem like Trizeal, at LEAST put it on GC or Xbox.
The game will sell a lot less on the PS2 than it has on the DC.llabnip wrote:The game deserves a wider audience - the PS2 should give it that chance.
Why are people so keen to have everything bastardised onto a single home platform? Shooter enthusiasts would actually want more than a single console to experience the software how they were originally intended and not on something which is so obviously offering quantity over quality of late.llabnip wrote:So... add Chaos Field and Trizeal to what is now the largest and most diverse home console shooter library (PSX/PS2 combined) and it gets easier to recommend the (import) PS2 as the shooter enthusiasts machine of choice. Most impressive.
I dunno, I guess I'm just not enough of an "enthusiast," but I don't mind having a lot of games in one place, so to speak. Not every port is going to be super arcade-perfect, but at least in most cases, if the developer puts enough effort into it, the games are perfectly playable, mostly faithful to the originals, and sometimes include something extra. To bring Psyvariar 2 back up again, I believe that it, like Trizeal, was originally made for the same DC-friendly hardware, and thus the PS2 port is less "perfect" than the DC port; however, seeing as the game still looks and sounds good (if not "perfect"), includes a replay DVD, extra modes and functions, and costs half to a third as much as the DC version, I'm not exactly going to feel guilty about buying it instead. Yeah, it's a "blue disc of death" and the load times are longer, but the important stuff is still there, as far as I'm concerned.Kron wrote:Why are people so keen to have everything bastardised onto a single home platform? Shooter enthusiasts would actually want more than a single console to experience the software how they were originally intended and not on something which is so obviously offering quantity over quality of late.
I could get rid of my Dreamcast with no regrets if they ported Border Down and Mars Matrix to PS2.Why are people so keen to have everything bastardised onto a single home platform? Shooter enthusiasts would actually want more than a single console to experience the software how they were originally intended and not on something which is so obviously offering quantity over quality of late.
As I said enthusiasts or people who appreciate how something is created, People who segregate something due to a popularity poll always seem to loose out by being ignorant to whats on offer.Neon wrote:I could get rid of my Dreamcast with no regrets if they ported Border Down and Mars Matrix to PS2.Why are people so keen to have everything bastardised onto a single home platform? Shooter enthusiasts would actually want more than a single console to experience the software how they were originally intended and not on something which is so obviously offering quantity over quality of late.
And I'm not just trolling, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.
What can I say? I suck at the game to the point where I can't find any enjoyment in it. Trizeal is more suited to my slow-ass reflexes and fondness for 16-bit shooters.[/quote]