PcEngine Super CD Rom2

[alk]

I want to Buy one of this Beasts but in ebay are arround 200€ with Shipping.¿There is something more economic? Also i See European Turbografx for 50-60 € Is it worth to buy one of this,i mean there is enough games to justify their buying????? Thank you so much

PD sorry if the thread doestn going here

[Estebang]

First off, your English is atrocious.

Secondly, there's no such thing as a "European Turbografx"--the system was only released in Japan and the US, and its US release was nothing short of botched, receiving terrible support and distribution over its short lifespan. Some of the localized CD games have the worst voice acting known to man.

And it really depends on your taste in games. I find most PCE shmups to be overly easy and forgettable, with a few notable exceptions like Winds of Thunder and the excellent port of Gradius II with new levels. But some people really, really like the system's library. Most of the good stuff is very expensive, though.

[SGGG2]

It's obviously someone who's not a native english speaker... why you gotta hate?

[Estebang]

No excuse for five question marks in a row.

[Herr Schatten]

there's no such thing as a "European Turbografx"--the system was only released in Japan and the US

IIRC, that's not entirely true. There was a very limited run of European Turbografx systems released in, I think, Spain. I don't actually know anyone who ever had one, so they might be fake, but I've seen pictures from various unconnected sources which all showed the same box and hardware (looks kinda like the US system but with different colours) which would seem to me too elaborate a fake if it really was one.
Also, I seem to remember there was a Korean variant of the system, but my memory is a bit hazy.

[Fudoh]

I don't actually know anyone who ever had one, so they might be fake, but I've seen pictures from various unconnected sources which all showed the same box and hardware (looks kinda like the US system but with different colours) which would seem to me too elaborate a fake if it really was one.

I had one. Clearly imported and reworked for the european market (220V PSU etc, PAL output), but most likely through an official distributor.

[alk]

Sorry for my bad english Im spanish .what i mean with European turbografx is This





For 50€ with Box instructions and Blazing Lazers

Is it worth the cost?

[grahf]

It's an OK price, but I wouldn't buy it. I think the European Turbografx uses US hucards, right? The US hucard library is pretty small. CDs are not region-locked, but the US CD addons are expensive these days.

For a first system, The best thing to do is get a Japanese PC Engine Duo-R. They're (relatively) cheap, reliable, and easy to find. The black PCE Duos are also good, but many of them need their capacitors replaced (It's common for electronics from the late 80s to early 90s). The Duo-Rs usually don't have capacitor problems.

Sorry if this is a little difficult to understand, I'm still drunk

[alk]

Im searching something for about 100-150€ with shipping it might be possible for a PC Engine Duo-R? or is more expensive?

[Fudoh]

Best seller for RGB-moded Duos: http://www.ebay.com/sch/doujindance/m.h ... rom=&_ipg=

For a modded Duo-R you have to pay about 200 EUR.

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Be sure to pick an NEC Tennokoe Bank Rom-Ram Hu-Card with it's internal 8MB of flash memory (compared to the measly 2MB on-board flash memory on the PCE Super CD-Rom2 console) or use an NEC 128 Memory Base unit that hooks between the PCE Duo and a gamepad.

The USA region TurboGrafx-16 & Turbo Duo console will require the use of either an boxy Hu-Card convertor or an Kisado convertor to play them Japanese region Hu-Cards. It's possible to play Arcade CD-Rom2 based games on a Turbo Duo, just use an Arcade Card Duo + Hu-Card convertor and you're good to go.

Or pick up a single layer PCB for PCE country region switching (JPN or USA) and bypass the need for an external Hu-Card or Kisado convertor on a TG-16 or Turbo Duo setup.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[zaphod]

Unless you don't want to play US hucards at all, it's best to get the US console and converter, because you CANNOT play most US cards on a JP console but the reverse works fine.

US cards (mostly) are encrypted, and the JP consoles cannot do the decryption.

CD imports work fine without changing anything.

I think the best way to go is probably turbo duo and the adapter for JP hucards,if you can get it. you don't need to buy a supercharger to get composite out that way.

BTW there seems to be an attempt to curb piracy built into the CD system, even though there is no real protection against CDR backups. If you try and put in a disc the system cannot read properly, it will lock the drive up, and it will no longer seem to boot ANY discs at all. it will refuse to spin up, even after rebooting. If this ever happens, do not panic. simply leave the system unplugged and let the capacitor run out so the internal memory clears out. The cd drive will then function again.

[alk]

there is any converter more cheap than the kisado converter?

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Yes, it'd be the boxy Hu-Card convertor setup that is a bit cheaper than a Kisado convertor -- search on ebay.com for one. To use it on a Turbo Duo console, you'd have to carefully remove the Duo's Hu-Card plastic cover. Just apply a bit of light pressure & it'll come off quite easily. Easy as pie.

On my plain vanilla "region unmodded" Turbo Duo, it'll play properly burned CD-Rs just fine as if they were the real CD-Rom2/Super CD-Rom2/Arcade CD-Rom2 game disc article. I haven't encounter this Duo "lock up" situation that you've faced, zaphod.

If you let the internal capacitor drain (about two weeks of waiting or so) on a PCE Duo/Turbo Duo, you'll also lose all high scores & PCE game saves as well (unless you have saved your PCE game saves to an Tennokoe Bank Hu-Card or a Memory Base 128 setup), Then it'd just be a matter of simply re-uploading the game saves back into the Duo's internal 2MB Backup Ram for posterity. So no worries in the PCE high score/game save department.

NEC did offer an optional Turbo Booster Plus accessory that had built-in saving functionality compared to the plain-vanilla Turbo Booster accessory (which only offered Composite Video output + L & R stereo RCA phono outputs + pre-amp) for the USA region TurboGrafx-16 console. The only catch was that you had to regularly plug in the TG-16 every so often to re-charge the TBP's internal capacitor to keep the TG-16 game saves & high scores from vanishing.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[fagin]

No excuse for five question marks in a row.

Put your dummy back in.

Not everyone speaks/writes the "Queens English" as their first language.... not even you Americans!

I thought us Brits were arrogant when it came to thinking that everyone should speak English!

[zaphod]

Yes, it'd be the boxy Hu-Card convertor setup that is a bit cheaper than a Kisado convertor -- search on On my plain vanilla "region unmodded" Turbo Duo, it'll play properly burned CD-Rs just fine as if they were the real CD-Rom2/Super CD-Rom2/Arcade CD-Rom2 game disc article. I haven't encounter this Duo "lock up" situation that you've faced, zaphod.

Correctly burned backups work just fine. It's bad burns (or accidentally putting in a blank cdr) that lock the drive.

If you let the internal capacitor drain (about two weeks of waiting or so) on a PCE Duo/Turbo Duo, you'll also lose all high scores & PCE game saves as well (unless you have saved your PCE game saves to an Tennokoe Bank Hu-Card or a Memory Base 128 setup), Then it'd just be a matter of simply re-uploading the game saves back into the Duo's internal 2MB Backup Ram for posterity. So no worries in the PCE high score/game save department.

Right. thats why people say to get that Tennokoe Bank.

NEC did offer an optional Turbo Booster Plus accessory that had built-in saving functionality compared to the plain-vanilla Turbo Booster accessory (which only offered Composite Video output + L & R stereo RCA phono outputs + pre-amp) for the USA region TurboGrafx-16 console. The only catch was that you had to regularly plug in the TG-16 every so often to re-charge the TBP's internal capacitor to keep the TG-16 game saves & high scores from vanishing.

intersting.