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http://indiegames.com/2011/11/six_japan ... ng_lo.html

The titles announced so far:

Developer Tennen-sozai: eXceed 2nd - Vampire REX and eXceed 3rd - Jade Penetration Black Package
Edelweiss' ETHER VAPOR Remaster
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schnoo wrote:SATAZIUS
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That first comment what a cool chap eh? :roll:
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Meh. No physical release? Then I'll just stick with the Japanese releases.
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Crimzon Clover deserves an official Western release far more than any of these. I guess the only things holding it back were the lack of human characters and the Donkey Kong Country graphics.
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Estebang wrote:Crimzon Clover deserves an official Western release far more than any of these. I guess the only things holding it back were the lack of human characters and the Donkey Kong Country graphics.
My guess would be it has something to do with the developer instead. Or maybe licensing issues. But you may very well be right. I wonder how the publisher determines the economic viability of a doujin game.
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No physical disc, no care 8)
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Speaking of which, it's kind of bizarre that none of the Touhou games have acquired an official localization! Dump 'em on Steam, with some 'cheevos and whatever else is required these days, and they'd make a killing from the Youtube kids!

I know ZUN keeps an iron grip around the licensing rights, but you'd think he'd see the potential for profits right away? Hell, why not get Cave or G.Rev to make a Touhou game? Legitimize the series' unfairly earned popularity, you know?
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Ether Vapor? I'm sold.
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Estebang wrote:Speaking of which, it's kind of bizarre that none of the Touhou games have acquired an official localization! Dump 'em on Steam, with some 'cheevos and whatever else is required these days, and they'd make a killing from the Youtube kids!

I know ZUN keeps an iron grip around the licensing rights, but you'd think he'd see the potential for profits right away? Hell, why not get Cave or G.Rev to make a Touhou game? Legitimize the series' unfairly earned popularity, you know?
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That's incredibly foolish of him. I don't understand how someone in his position can be so averse to making money.
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Nice. It seems there is a non-japanese market for doujin shmups.
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Estebang wrote:That's incredibly foolish of him. I don't understand how someone in his position can be so averse to making money.
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As far as I understood he has a good job and doing it only for fun. Maybe he is just afraid of becoming the next Modern Warfare and hate himself for it and suicide etc.
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is some kind of crazy shit like that involved. I mean, I've been talking about business with the local japanese community and they already told me everything works backwards compared to what we do everywhere.

So, yeah, very interesting news but... Fighting Fairy? I mean, the title is already in english (Fairy Bloom Freesia), why changing it to that and not changing, for example, something like Jade Penetrate? I found the choice loltastic.

Ether Vapor deserved a release outside Japan, that's for sure.
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Estebang wrote:That's incredibly foolish of him. I don't understand how someone in his position can be so averse to making money.
There's nothing foolish about that, if that's truly the reason why he stays doujin.
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The only one of those I care at all about is Satazius, and even then I'm still very skeptical of its quality even after playing the demo. Might be great, might not be, I'm not sure. The 2D pixel art is great though.
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Wow this came out of the blue, it gives me a chance to give some money to the devs since I played all their games for free.

Hmm I wonder if Nyu Media have been reading the Carpe Fulgar forums, since 3 months ago I made a lengthy post suggesting 6 shmups I felt were best for localisation including the 2 exceed games and Ether Vapor. Its probably just a coincidence though since they are pretty obvious choices imo
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xbl0x180 wrote:No physical disc, no care 8)
If there's no DRM, I'll buy EVR and Satazius. Otherwise it's the JPN discs for me.

Oh BTW, Cobalt (the first comment guy who Zeron spoke of) strikes me as a tad selfish. He should be a little more considerate of others (like us) who are interested. No one is forcing him to buy the shooters.
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I think a couple of those comments were quite dire.

Personally I hope this is a prelude to a steam release, EVR deserves to be on it (infact they all do).
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TrevHead (TVR) wrote:I think a couple of those comments were quite dire.
It's some random indie games site, what did you expect? They probably don't even know scoring systems exist.
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I wish they'd do Raiden III. It was only ever available at ludicrous prices for import, and now it can't be found anywhere.
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Estebang wrote:I know ZUN keeps an iron grip around the licensing rights, but you'd think he'd see the potential for profits right away? Hell, why not get Cave or G.Rev to make a Touhou game? Legitimize the series' unfairly earned popularity, you know?
He did work at Taito Corp. for a few years. Personally, I can't think of a better place for him to be considering the Touhou series basically started off as a Taito tribute ala Gekirindan before going full curtain fire.
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The popularity of ZUN's Touhou series has utterly and completely surpassed what's expected of an amateurish doujin shmup, which it is. It deserves to be in better hands--namely, those of Cave or G.Rev, where they can actually get a proper composer to do the music, among countless other improvements. I don't think a commercial release would go against the spirit of the games or jeopardize the fan scene's projects--every Japanese game company besides Nintendo is always willing to look the other way when it comes to that stuff. There's a fuckton of money to be made, and nobody could accuse ZUN of "selling out" like it's a bad thing. I mean, such a release could completely revitalize the genre again! The Youtube kids would be forced to take notice that yes, these characters and music are tied to a shmup!
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CAVE seem to be utterly uninterested in seeing their shmups on the PC (where they sort of thrive, oh irony). That's the Trizeal thing again and again (even if they can't muster above doujin production values, they aim at arcades and - obscure - consoles no matter what).
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Estebang wrote:
MathU wrote:I wish they'd do Raiden III. It was only ever available at ludicrous prices for import, and now it can't be found anywhere.
PS2 version is plentiful and goes for $20 on average.
But I don't want the PS2 version.
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Estebang wrote:The popularity of ZUN's Touhou series has utterly and completely surpassed what's expected of an amateurish doujin shmup, which it is. It deserves to be in better hands--namely, those of Cave or G.Rev,
No fuck no Jesus Christ no. Let ZUN do his thing, let Cave and G.rev do theirs.
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Estebang wrote:The popularity of ZUN's Touhou series has utterly and completely surpassed what's expected of an amateurish doujin shmup, which it is. It deserves to be in better hands--namely, those of Cave or G.Rev, where they can actually get a proper composer to do the music, among countless other improvements. I don't think a commercial release would go against the spirit of the games or jeopardize the fan scene's projects--every Japanese game company besides Nintendo is always willing to look the other way when it comes to that stuff. There's a fuckton of money to be made, and nobody could accuse ZUN of "selling out" like it's a bad thing. I mean, such a release could completely revitalize the genre again! The Youtube kids would be forced to take notice that yes, these characters and music are tied to a shmup!
While i agree with you that Touhou could be the great saviour of the shmups genre (I can bet anything that most of the new shmups enthusiasts come from touhou) I can only shiver when i think what could happen if touhou goes commercial. There has been some doujin games that has been made commercial but the huge popularity and magnitude of touhou is a factor that can't be measured.

Take the example of Trouble Witches, which was first a doujin shump and later came to the Arcade... it got there but didn't happened anymore. Touhou it's a huge source of fan related material and what makes proud a lot of touhou fans is the fact that it's a doujin game (and let's not talk about all the fanboys and fangirls who think that ZUN is some kind of Demigod).

Hmmm... on the other hand, ZUN seems to be losing fuel. Not only the quality of his games has gone down (both in terms of gameplay and music, and the graphics issue is always the same, recicle bin...) but he seems more interested on other things. Now he has a part time job and the music, which in theory is the pinacle of the Touhou series, has got such a tone down in quality, structure and melody....

Let's say it clearly, Touhou 13 the last one, has been the worst Touhou ever made, with a somewhat halve baked music (and a pityful try to make music with beats and rythims when he clearly isn't good with that) a broken scoring system (is so broken that I feel shame when describing it) and an story that seems to be "let's throw in some chars and then make a story"...

Finally, if touhou gets picked up by Cave it may seem to be a great gold mine for the company but a lot of the "original" fans would hate it and it would start a great schism that may destroy the popularity of touhou. BBS boards and japanese otaku are powerful (and japan is what only counts for Cave). They could start a boycot to the new commercial Touhou and that would be the end not only for Touhou (as the fans won't forgive ZUN later) but also a huge disaster for Cave...

So, even if I would extremely like a Cavish Touhou (or a Touhou made by any other profesional video games company), I think it's better the way it is now... for the sake of the touhou series even if it's getting worst...
Obiwanshinobi wrote:CAVE seem to be utterly uninterested in seeing their shmups on the PC (where they sort of thrive, oh irony). That's the Trizeal thing again and again (even if they can't muster above doujin production values, they aim at arcades and - obscure - consoles no matter what).
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now seriously... how many people would BUY a shmup if it were for PC?
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O. Van Bruce wrote: now seriously... how many people would BUY a shmup if it were for PC?
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Bananamatic wrote:
O. Van Bruce wrote: now seriously... how many people would BUY a shmup if it were for PC?
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