Trigger Heart Exelica for Naomi/Dreamcast

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:00 pm

Aren't all the boss events based on your gold piece score? I think you need 3000 to trigger Faintear on the first boss (and maybe for each subsequent boss?). I don't know if she appears on each level.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:36 pm

She doesn't appear on each level. I think it's only the 1st and 3rd?

It's only based on item count at the end of the 'first' boss. I've DIED on the first boss and still triggered her.

rtw · Post by **rtw** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:42 pm

Anyone up to some translating, where do the developers come from that sort of thing ?

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rtw

KBZ · Post by **KBZ** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:20 am

just got my LE version in the mail. I'm quite happy with the game so far. Graphics weren't nearly as bad as I thought they would be from the majority of the pre-release impressions. Music is kicking too.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:21 am

Just got my copy today, and played for an hour or two. First impressions definitely weren't impressed with the presentation (then again, no one had made me very expectant, heh heh), but bullet visibility was very good, so I can put up with it. The system does seem to give you a good amount of freedom when it comes to letting you play for survival or score, which is nice to help you get into it, and each of the 3 modes offers something a little different...I was pleasantly surprised to see separate score tables for individual difficulties too. Trying to score, oddly enough (well, not really, I suppose) reminded me of Shienryu Explosion, in that the basic idea wasn't all that complicated, but there were a couple of things to keep track of at once and strike a balance between...overall good. The main "thing" for me right now is getting the hang of tossing enemies...right now it seems that if I can start swinging an enemy the moment I capture it I can get some momentum going, but if I hesitate or wait the thing becomes dead weight (and always seems to end up behind me, grr). Practice mode is rather average, options are decent, load times are not a problem, and slowdown's not much of an issue...until Arrange mode. Then again, with the extra bullets to dodge I can't complain too much.

Overall, seems to fall in the same basic "tier" as the past few DC shmups I've gotten ahold of: good, but not great. I'd definitely like to get a bit more clued in as to some of the details of the scoring system...anyone up for creating an ST?

jp · Post by jp » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:46 am

Alright, just 1CC'd the game so here's me thoughts:

I love it. I think its one of the better games on the DC honestly. The bullet patterns are just fun. I don't feel that there are any cheap deaths. And I love the multi-teared boss fights hinging on the amount of medals you have. Definitely adds a lot more depth to the game.

I'd say my favorite boss fight is the level 4 boss. Very very cool bullet patterns. I also love the Xiga-ish bullet pattern the level 2 boss throws out for its... second form? third? Not sure.

And Stage 5 was a complete blast. Its just so... relaxing for a final level. Especially the midbosses. Both of them are just fun as hell. Final boss was cool too...

One thing that does bother me is how easy it seemingly is to abuse the scoring system. I hear (haven't seen the vids yet, no internet at home) that there are players that can get 220mil+ in the first level alone. I dunno, I just don't think Warashi intended for it to be that way given the way extends work. But c'est la vie.

At any rate, I love the game. Its not really pretty, but its damn fun with a very indepth scoring system and really cool boss fights. And I LOVE the music in Stage 5.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:47 pm

Did somebody say cheese?

I got my LE last week but I haven't opened it yet. Sounds like I ought to give it a whirl this weekend.

Tigershark · Post by **Tigershark** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:38 pm

I know the first level like the back of my hand but I still can't chain 3000 cheeses! This is getting tedious!

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:59 pm

Tigershark wrote:I know the first level like the back of my hand but I still can't chain 3000 cheeses! This is getting tedious!

Try smashing some of the red ships into other enemies.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:41 am

Also, chuck that big ship right before the cluster of tanks and the big tank, into said cluster ^_^ After using it as a shield for as long as possible, that gets you more medals too.

S1nn3r · Post by **S1nn3r** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:12 pm

I have a small technical question for owners of THE..

Anyone else here noticed when playing that occasionally the display seems to "loose sync" slighly so that when for instance the "panning up the screen" bit happens before the first boss apears on screen a similar thing to the vsync issue on some PC games seems to take place for a moment. This also happens infrequently elseware to mostly dureing the small panning "cutscenes" and every so often on the game over and press start screen.

Its nothing serious i guess and i think i have seen the glitch in some gameplay videos but just want to be sure that its not a problem with my specific setup.

louisg · Post by **louisg** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:46 am

Hmm, I haven't noticed that yet. That sort of stuff usually throws me off, so I'll look next time. I'm not playing on VGA so perhaps it's just less noticible here. It'd be hard to tell afaik with a video player since most movie playback on computers is so wacky.

S1nn3r · Post by **S1nn3r** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:19 am

Strangely enough this issue seems to go away when useing a CRT instead of the LCD.. Also CRT VGA tate = teh hotness hehe.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:03 pm

Trigger Heart Exelica or Guitar Hero 2 for XBOX 360? I can hardly justify buying either atm, but I certainly can't justify getting both. Hmmm...

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:16 pm

Go for Trigger Heart, it's a fine shooter. Trigger Heart's limited print run will probably make it harder to find for a good price later on. Guitar Hero 2 on the other hand will hardly become a "rare" game; if you wait a while you should be able to pick it up cheaper.

msm · Post by **msm** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:30 pm

that's a hard choice, i think guitar hero is the better game although its hard to compare them, but Ceph is right, it makes sence to get trigger heart first

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:44 pm

If you have a J-PS2 then you should get GuitarFreaks V and GuitarFreaks V2.

Then you also have DrumMania V and DrumMania V2. They piss all over Guitar Hero.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:44 pm

Good point, guys. Thanks. I think you're right; I'll order it soon.

brumma · Post by **brumma** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:19 am

professor ganson wrote:Good point, guys. Thanks. I think you're right; I'll order it soon.

I may be selling my copy fairly soon--I think I'm going to try to pick up the Naomi version. Send me a PM if you're interested, and I'll give you a time frame.

rapoon · Post by **rapoon** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:40 am

i got the game in the mail yesterday. im having a really hard time getting the spin down. i have anchor mapped to X since you need to press and hold fire while anchored to spin. what techniques are you guys using to get the spin down? sometimes ill get the spin going fast as shit, then it slows to a crawl

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:04 am

rapoon wrote:i have anchor mapped to X

Map it to the L-trigger and give it a try; I think you can control it much better that way.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:47 am

I mapped it to R, but yeah, definitely better than one of the face buttons. It's less confusing when you're trying to let go of one of them to suck medals or drop your ship. When I had it on the default settings, I'd quite often let go of the wrong button -_^

As for the spin, just press in the direction ahead of where the enemy currently is. So, if you have the enemy at 12 o'clock, press 2 or 3 o'clock, and then just stay ahead a few hours.

You get what I mean.

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:57 am

Finally ordered it. The thought of being able to capture enemies was just too tempting.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:32 pm

professor ganson wrote:Finally ordered it. The thought of being able to capture enemies was just too tempting.

Can you still cancel it? There's a special offer at play-asia starting tomorrow; you can buy the LE (which seems to be sold out everywhere else) for a mere $63.92.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-x-7 ... -1qgd.html

professor ganson · Post by **professor ganson** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:05 pm

Ceph wrote:
professor ganson wrote:Finally ordered it. The thought of being able to capture enemies was just too tempting.
Can you still cancel it? There's a special offer at play-asia starting tomorrow; you can buy the LE (which seems to be sold out everywhere else) for a mere $63.92.

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-x-7 ... -1qgd.html

Crap, I just got an email saying that Play-Asia shipped it. I would happily have waited a few days for that bargain. Thanks much for the tip. I will have to consider buying the LE just as a collector's item to keep sealed.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:38 pm

Exelica LE is sold out now. That was quick; Under Defeat took longer.

ZenErik · Post by **ZenErik** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:40 pm

Love this game, but I just burned a copy of the PS2 version to see whether it is worth the money. Is it just me or does it just not feel right when compared to the Dreamcast version? The graphics appear more smooth than the DC version, but it also seems a little blurry. The sound doesn't seem as good either. I'm not sure what it is, but it just sounds inferior to me. Scoring appears to be a little different. When I do the same exact things on a level 1 run I get maybe 3 million less points on the PS2.

I could be making things up in my head, but it just feels slower as well. Perhaps there is a little more slowdown. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

Post by **nZero** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:24 pm

ZenErik wrote:Love this game, but I just burned a copy of the PS2 version to see whether it is worth the money. Is it just me or does it just not feel right when compared to the Dreamcast version? The graphics appear more smoother than the DC version, but it also seems a little blurry. The sound doesn't seem as good either. I'm not sure what it is, but it just sounds inferior to me. Scoring appears to be a little different. When I do the same exact things on a level 1 run I get maybe 3 million less points on the PS2.

I could just be making things up in my head, but it just feels slower as well. Perhaps there is a little more slowdown. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

The PS2 version is based on the XBox 360 Live Arcade version that was ported by Gulti, except with a new story mode and playable Faintear character added. It runs smoothly on the 360 but it's very slowdown heavy on the PS2. The scoring is simplified and isn't comparable to the Arcade/Dreamcast version, unfortunately.

ZenErik · Post by **ZenErik** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:38 pm

nZero wrote:
The PS2 version is based on the XBox 360 Live Arcade version that was ported by Gulti, except with a new story mode and playable Faintear character added. It runs smoothly on the 360 but it's very slowdown heavy on the PS2. The scoring is simplified and isn't comparable to the Arcade/Dreamcast version, unfortunately.

Thank you for the info. Makes sense. I already have the XBLA version and also do not like that as much as the DC version. But it still plays better than the PS2 release.

This is very unfortunate. I had wanted the limited edition PS2 version for a long time with the nendoroid.

Casper<3 · Post by **Casper<3** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:51 am

The Nedroid is awesome, I still have it! (even though I sold the game)

The Dreamcast is the best version in my opinion. Simply for the CAVE-esque Arrange mode!

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