Dark Souls- PS3, Xbox 360, PC

[Jeneki]

Oh yea skeletons take FOREVER to kill with newbie weapons. And the catacombs skeletons, well, you'll see soon enough.

This is one of the things that really bugs me about Dark Souls. In Demons Souls, even with basic equipment I could still go anywhere I wanted to and defeat enemies in a reasonable amount of time, assuming I had the technique to beat them. In Dark Souls, if I don't have powerful enough equipment even standard enemies turn into a gigantic slog as I very slowly wear their hitpoints down.

[MJR]

Umm not sure.. I mean in demons souls there was NO WAY to beat that red knight with newbie weapons. And you even could not go to any more difficult worlds if you didnt have any bosses killed. Here I got at least some illusion of freedom, especially because of the vastly improved level design.

And, in this game, I can choose to leg it, if I tumble into someone who's too tough to me at the moment. I've had no problem outrunning skeletons or some undead knights. And it makes sense as well. You can always come back to kill it when you're ready.

[iconoclast]

This game is pretty damn good, but I'm dreading going into the sewers(that's my next section). I don't want to deal with the curse!

I'll have to buy a couple of cures for it, from that guy in the bell tower. But that will be 8000 souls. God...lots of grinding to do...

If you're careful, the curse will be easy to avoid. But I will warn you, whatever you do, make sure you don't fall into the hole in the ground. Sprinting into holes has been my weakness since 3-1, and this time they add insult to injury.

There's also a merchant just outside the sewer entrance that sells the curse cleansing item.

[Leader Bee]

I'm really cheesed off, Amazon told me that Dark sould was dispatched yesterday it's friday now and it's still nto turned up, it apparently won't get here until the 11th and now I won't be able to spend the weekend playing it.

You'd think ifyou'd pre-ordered something they'd be smart enough to dipatch it in enough time for it to arrive with you on day of release!

[Jeneki]

Umm not sure.. I mean in demons souls there was NO WAY to beat that red knight with newbie weapons.

The red knight isn't exactly a standard enemy in that area. I'm talking about basic grunts you fight though the game. In Demons Souls, you can take regular, unupgraded, non-unique weapons and go to any world in any order and still fight your way to the first boss and kill the regular enemies in a reasonable number of attacks.

[MJR]

Umm not sure.. I mean in demons souls there was NO WAY to beat that red knight with newbie weapons.

The red knight isn't exactly a standard enemy in that area. I'm talking about basic grunts you fight though the game. In Demons Souls, you can take regular, unupgraded, non-unique weapons and go to any world in any order and still fight your way to the first boss and kill the regular enemies in a reasonable number of attacks.

In demons souls you can go to worlds 2 and 3 after beating world 1, and you will be screwed if you got only regular-non upgraded weapon unless you got really strong stats, its not that different from dark souls.

[Jeneki]

In demons souls you can go to worlds 2 and 3 after beating world 1, and you will be screwed if you got only regular-non upgraded weapon unless you got really strong stats, its not that different from dark souls.

Which enemies are giving you trouble using basic equipment? I usually go straight to 2-1 and then 3-1 after that; if you need some advice I can help.

Back on topic, I figured out a way to cheese-kill the first three or so skeletons in the catacombs. Once I get further in, the specific opportunity I used to beat them is no longer present though. Time to keep experimenting.

[JBC]

My character is quadruple-cursed right now. After about an hour I was able to run screaming out of The Depths hoping that sunlight would lift it... of course it didn't. I checked with the hag at the entrance but she doesn't sell the uncurse item unless you have the latest update installed so I'm S.O.L. on that. I talked to the annoying guy at Firelink Shrine and then spent a good two hours sprinting through New Londo Ruins hoping to find whoever he was talking about that could cure me.

Everything I've seen so far says for me to try trading with Snuggly the Crow by dropping a cracked red eye orb in his nest (Which one? Firelink Shrine or Undead Asylum???) and then RESETTING the game. Which is some seriously Simon's Quest level fuckery on FROM's part. Thank God I've already beaten those gargoyles, however collecting 4000 souls when I can only be hit once sounds like a ridiculous challenge. I'm thinking I'll grind on the bush dudes at Darkroot Basin.

Did I mention that while I was trapped in The Depths my Broadsword +5 broke? I used a regular Halberd to get out since it has a thrust and put some distance between me and the enemies. Clusterf***

[Elixir]

Oh yea skeletons take FOREVER to kill with newbie weapons. And the catacombs skeletons, well, you'll see soon enough.

This is one of the things that really bugs me about Dark Souls. In Demons Souls, even with basic equipment I could still go anywhere I wanted to and defeat enemies in a reasonable amount of time, assuming I had the technique to beat them. In Dark Souls, if I don't have powerful enough equipment even standard enemies turn into a gigantic slog as I very slowly wear their hitpoints down.

They seem predictable and can be parried constantly, what's the problem?

[Jeneki]

They seem predictable and can be parried constantly, what's the problem?

Catacombs skeletons only die for a few seconds, then reassemble. They flat-out never die from normal weapons. My temporary workaround is to position them between myself and a cliff, then kick them off (resisting the urge to yell THIS IS SPARTA). Deeper into the catacombs I can't find any more cliffs to dispose of them with, so eventually I reach the point where I have four or so chasing me around and I have to run back.

If you know another way to finish them off please let me know.

[JBC]

Catacombs skeletons only die for a few seconds, then reassemble. They flat-out never die from normal weapons. My temporary workaround is to position them between myself and a cliff, then kick them off (resisting the urge to yell THIS IS SPARTA). Deeper into the catacombs I can't find any more cliffs to dispose of them with, so eventually I reach the point where I have four or so chasing me around and I have to run back

It's so bad I can't even get them away from me long enough to light the bonfire down there. I decided to just give up on the area for now and return after I had some magics. Suicide runs are one of my favorite aspects of these games <3

[iconoclast]

They seem predictable and can be parried constantly, what's the problem?

Catacombs skeletons only die for a few seconds, then reassemble. They flat-out never die from normal weapons. My temporary workaround is to position them between myself and a cliff, then kick them off (resisting the urge to yell THIS IS SPARTA). Deeper into the catacombs I can't find any more cliffs to dispose of them with, so eventually I reach the point where I have four or so chasing me around and I have to run back.

If you know another way to finish them off please let me know.

There are mages further in - they're the ones who revive the skeletons. Kill them and the skeletons will die permanently. The Catacombs are still a pain in the ass though.

[sjewkestheloon]

Just played for 4 hours after getting it home. One word.

FFFUUUUUCCKKKK.

Just met two ghosts that are impervious to my attacks, ignore my shield and kill me in 2 hits. Nice...

[JBC]

Just played for 4 hours after getting it home. One word.

FFFUUUUUCCKKKK.

Just met two ghosts that are impervious to my attacks, ignore my shield and kill me in 2 hits. Nice...

Yeah, you're in New Londo. You need to go the other way lol

The only way you can fight those ghosts is to either get cursed (don't) or apply a transient curse to yourself. At this point I would just consider that area off limits unless you wanna try running through and grabbing a few items from the shallow water after the second rickety boardwalk.

You're better off staying with the Undead Burg, which is up the stone path on the side of the cliff in Firelink Shrine.

[CMoon]

Christ! Just beat Capra demon. The demon itself isn't really hard, but seriously, no really close bonfire + super annoying set-up makes this one a mutherfuker.

Genuinely felt like my victory here was more or less random because of those stupid dogs.

[JBC]

Christ! Just beat Capra demon.

Be careful, my next step following the Capra Demon was to travel into The Depths where I got cursed.

[Elixir]

Capra is that goat thing right? Yeah there's about 15 of them in the volcanic area, have fun.

[iconoclast]

Capra is that goat thing right? Yeah there's about 15 of them in the volcanic area, have fun.

Yeah, it's the goat with the two blades. But they're pretty easy to kill by the time you get to the volcano area, and they're worth 800 souls each. That's the second best soul farming area I've come across so far.

[JBC]

Seems to me like the first one is just difficult to fight because of the cramped quarters and two dogs. I just lit my broadsword on fire using the sap the hag lady sells and went to town on him. It's all about rolling when he goes to slam both of his blades into the ground.

[mesh control]

Just like Demon Souls, I'm getting reamed.

Should I be farming souls or trying to progress through the level and collect souls along the way?

[JBC]

Depends on where you're at. I'm still in the early parts of my first run through the game but I already know of some good areas for grinding. Your first bonfire in Undead Burg isn't bad for low level stuff but you're not gonna get alot of souls out of it. It's just that the bonfire is located right next to a slew of easy kill baddies and if you die your bloodstain will be right there. If you've made it to the Darkroot Garden those spiky tree guys are easy kills worth 100 souls apiece.

Did anybody else lure the Undead Burg black knight all the way through the area & into the path of the red dragon's flame? I couldn't believe it worked but I laughed so hard.

[iconoclast]

Just like Demon Souls, I'm getting reamed.

Should I be farming souls or trying to progress through the level and collect souls along the way?

The latter. You'll be farming plenty of souls involuntarily if you keep dying anyway. Might as well keep trying to proceed further while you're at it.

[CMoon]

Did anybody else lure the Undead Burg black knight all the way through the area & into the path of the red dragon's flame? I couldn't believe it worked but I laughed so hard.

Nah, I ran up on a roof and chucked fireballs at his black knight ass. That's the way I roll.

I agree, the capra demon wouldn't be hard on his own. It's those damned dogs.

[evil_ash_xero]

I heard so much junk about the curse, in the sewers, that I upped my guy to level 60, with the forest soul farming method. I bought tons of spells while I was at it. And I bought a bunch of anti-curse items. I didn't get cursed once.

I took out the Vagina Dragon, and am working on Blight Town, which I hate, because it reminds me of the Valley Of Defilement. Which sucked. From what I can tell, I'm about ready to ring that second bell.

You know, this game has some frame rate issues, that sometimes are like "holy shit...what's going on here?!".

At level 60, you'd think I'd be overpowered, but I like it this way.
I'm still getting killed though.

Anyone know the total sales numbers for this, so far? I know the Japanese ones. What about the U.S. and Europe? It topped our charts, and did well on the European charts, but I would like some numbers.

[CMoon]

I know this is such a small thing, but I finally beat a black knight without cheesing it. Straight up, 'let's fight like gentlemen'. Of course, I'd lost in this fight like a million times (need more endurance), but it feels great!

[Zaarock]

I heard so much junk about the curse, in the sewers, that I upped my guy to level 60, with the forest soul farming method. I bought tons of spells while I was at it. And I bought a bunch of anti-curse items. I didn't get cursed once.

Uhh.. thats going extremely overboard and you're very overleveled, 60 is like end game level. I noticed going through the sewers that you actually only need to fight ONE curse frog in the sewers and afterwards you open a shortcut to the bonfire and never need to face him again.

I know this is such a small thing, but I finally beat a black knight without cheesing it. Straight up, 'let's fight like gentlemen'. Of course, I'd lost in this fight like a million times (need more endurance), but it feels great!

I just parried them to death which I guess you could count as cheesing (you take less damage from a mis-timed parry), makes them not seem threatening at all once you get the timing down.

[CMoon]

I didn't even know they could be parried. Guess that's what I'm doing next.

[evil_ash_xero]

I heard so much junk about the curse, in the sewers, that I upped my guy to level 60, with the forest soul farming method. I bought tons of spells while I was at it. And I bought a bunch of anti-curse items. I didn't get cursed once.

Uhh.. thats going extremely overboard and you're very overleveled, 60 is like end game level. I noticed going through the sewers that you actually only need to fight ONE curse frog in the sewers and afterwards you open a shortcut to the bonfire and never need to face him again.

You know, that queen bitch is still giving me trouble though.

Well, at least I won't have to level up any more.

[sjewkestheloon]

Just played for 4 hours after getting it home. One word.

FFFUUUUUCCKKKK.

Just met two ghosts that are impervious to my attacks, ignore my shield and kill me in 2 hits. Nice...

Yeah, you're in New Londo. You need to go the other way lol

The only way you can fight those ghosts is to either get cursed (don't) or apply a transient curse to yourself. At this point I would just consider that area off limits unless you wanna try running through and grabbing a few items from the shallow water after the second rickety boardwalk.

You're better off staying with the Undead Burg, which is up the stone path on the side of the cliff in Firelink Shrine.

Found the Undead Burg today and actually making a bit of progress! That black knight is a beast though, and I might have to mess about with him a bit and see if I can kick him off a ledge.

I am rather surprised to find myself laughing heartily while playing this game. Sure it can be frustrating but overall the careful exploration, satisfying combat and general mystique make me giddy.

[CMoon]

If you are a pyromancer, you can trick the black knight in the undead burg to go under the firebomb sniper perch, and just toss fireballs/firebombs at him. Not that he's guarding anything you really need.