-Genesis Shooters-

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:25 pm

Little off topic, but what Genesis shooters DID have a US release?
I'm getting a Genesis soon, so that's why I'm asking.

Edit: Can you also help me find good, HIGH PACE shooters for the Genesis? I just played Gaiares and the game is too slow for me (almost fell asleep).

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:42 pm

Fighter17 wrote:Little off topic, but what Genesis shooters DID have a US release?
I'm getting a Genesis soon, so that's why I'm asking.

Edit: Can you also help me find good, HIGH PACE shooters for the Genesis? I just played Gaiares and the game is too slow for me (almost fell asleep).

Thunderforce III is pretty fast. I find that Fireshark is fast (especially when you bump it up to medium or hard).

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:59 pm

Fighter17 wrote:Little off topic, but what Genesis shooters DID have a US release?
I'm getting a Genesis soon, so that's why I'm asking.

Edit: Can you also help me find good, HIGH PACE shooters for the Genesis? I just played Gaiares and the game is too slow for me (almost fell asleep).

Phielos, Truxton, Thunderforce II, Thunderforce III, Thunderforce IV (Lightening Force), Whip Rush, Fire Shark, Gaiares, Darius II (Sagaia), Battlemania 1 (Trouble Shooter), Viewpoint, Musha Aleste (M.U.S.H.A.), Forgotten Worlds, Kyokyou Tiger (Twin Cobra), Raiden Trad, Biohazard Battle, Steel Empire, V-5 (Grindstormer), Gynoug (Wings of Wor), and Arrow Flash got released in the US.

As far as fast paced games, I found Fire Shark, Twin Cobra, Thunder Force III, Lightening Force, and Truxton to be quite fast paced.

PFG 9000 · Post by **PFG 9000** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:09 pm

Don't forget Sol Deace; it was released in the US as well.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:08 am

PFG 9000 wrote:Don't forget Sol Deace; it was released in the US as well.

Doh. Missed one. Wasn't there also some shooter game from EA that was ported from Amiga?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:24 am

Battle Squadron, yes.

I think your list is just the japanese shooters that were released in the USA. There's some other western shootern like Crossfire (Super Airwolf) and Gadget Twins.

And then there's the Mega CD shooters, of which all (except Devastator, I think) were released in the US.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:46 am

Seven Force wrote:Battle Squadron, yes.

I think your list is just the japanese shooters that were released in the USA. There's some other western shootern like Crossfire (Super Airwolf) and Gadget Twins.

And then there's the Mega CD shooters, of which all (except Devastator, I think) were released in the US.

Well Gadget Twins is more of a flying action game than an actual shooter, so I didn't count that one. I forgot about Crossfire, though. Also, most of the European shooters for the Genesis stayed in Europe. I didn't list that one from EA becuase I forgot the name of it. I didn't include SEGA CD at all becuase I count them as SEGA CD shooters. I know that they were Lords of Thunder, Sol Feace, Robo Aleste, and one other. I didn't intend to list only Japanese games localized for the US, but the majority of the Genesis shooters that came out in the US version were designed in Japan.

Oh yeah, I forgot Space Invaders '91. That's also Kolibari for the 32X and that 32X game that had its name changed to Zaxxon for the US, though it originally didn't have much to do with Zaxxon.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:53 am

Actually, more than one more.

Keio Flying Squadron, Android Assault (Bari-Arm) and Silpheed.

EDIT: I always think of Mega CD also as "Megadrive". Cuz it's not like you can play on a Mega CD on it's own.

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:03 am

Seven Force wrote:Actually, more than one more.

Keio Flying Squadron, Android Assault (Bari-Arm) and Silpheed.

EDIT: I always think of Mega CD also as "Megadrive". Cuz it's not like you can play on a Mega CD on it's own.

Doh. I always forget about Keio becuase it's something that you wouldn't expect to come to the US, even though it did. I should have remembered the other two. I have the PS2 Silpheed and I read quite a bit about the SEGA CD one. I'm surprised I didn't forget to list Forgotten Worlds for the Genesis. I have that game and like it quite a, but, for some odd reason, I used to always forget about it.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:16 am

BrianC wrote:Doh. I always forget about Keio becuase it's something that you wouldn't expect to come to the US, even though it did. I should have remembered the other two. I have the PS2 Silpheed and I read quite a bit about the SEGA CD one.

I just got the Mega CD one recently. It's actually pretty good as far as early non-textured polygon stuff is concerned. Certainly looks a hell of a lot nicer than Starfox and it's actually a real shmup.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:23 pm

just got Fire Shark and it is really decent. two little problems though:

1) if i get hit, i want to explode, not watch my ship flame on for a couple seconds

2) if i kill an enemy i want them to explode, not spiral around and confuse me. this especially pisses me off when they have waves coming from both sides, you get dead enemies spiraling right next to live ones making the rounds. i run into this shit all the time.

on a side note: i really need to find hard copies of Grindstormer, Wings of Wor, Twin Hawk, and Twin Cobra (i likes me some Toaplan lately

).

theevilfunkster · Post by **theevilfunkster** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:37 pm

Just got Hellfire in the post this morning. Gonna put it side by side with the arcade version in a bit to see how it compares.

superhitachi4 · Post by **superhitachi4** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:40 am

Some pretty good shooters in no particular order: (Yes, I know I left some out.

) Thunderforce 3, 4, MUSHA Aleste, Truxton / Tetsujin, Steel Empire, Fire Shark, Elemental Master, Bio Hazard Battle, Aero Blasters, Hell Fire, Gaiares, Grind Stormer. These are all worth picking up in my opinion. Great games.

GIANT SQUID · Post by **GIANT SQUID** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:06 pm

Keio Flying Squadron, was that game any good?
and what was space invaders 91 like? i just got musha hahah i like that game a bunch. my genesis collection is getting nasty...over 100 games easily now hahaha.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:19 pm

GIANT SQUID wrote:Keio Flying Squadron, was that game any good?
and what was space invaders 91 like? i just got musha hahah i like that game a bunch. my genesis collection is getting nasty...over 100 games easily now hahaha.

Personally I don't like Keio at all. Typical japanese character design, cheesy anime music and flawed gameplay. Depends what you compare it to, and your taste, ofcourse, but I'd say it's generally unimpressive.

If you like the original Space Invaders, then you might enjoy SI90/91 (same game, different region, IIRC), I don't.

BTW. What's with all the laughing? What's so funny about these games?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:25 pm

zinger wrote:
GIANT SQUID wrote:Keio Flying Squadron, was that game any good?
and what was space invaders 91 like? i just got musha hahah i like that game a bunch. my genesis collection is getting nasty...over 100 games easily now hahaha.
Personally I don't like Keio at all. Typical japanese character design, cheesy anime music and flawed gameplay. Depends what you compare it to, and your taste, ofcourse, but I'd say it's generally unimpressive.

Well, personally I'd say it has great character design, ridiculously happy and catchy music, and the gameplay is very fun and intersting. The levels are well designed too with lots of different enemies and bizarre stuff constantly going on - never a dull moment.
Whether or not you like this game really depends mostly on how cool you are with the japanese cute 'em up style. If you have a PC-Engine and like games such as Star Parodier, Magical Chase and Coryoon you will definitely love Keio as well.

GIANT SQUID · Post by **GIANT SQUID** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:28 pm

haha, well if i can find it i may have to pick it up.
how hard is robo alesteon segacd to find?

oh and i always laugh when i talk about stuff i like, anyway i gts into my typing too hahahah. it just makes me feel my typing is more personal...sounds more like me. ha.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:34 pm

GIANT SQUID wrote:oh and i always laugh when i talk about stuff i like, anyway i gts into my typing too hahahah. it just makes me feel my typing is more personal...sounds more like me. ha.

Hahaha! That's just wonderful.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:43 pm

GIANT SQUID wrote:haha, well if i can find it i may have to pick it up.
how hard is robo alesteon segacd to find?

It's actually not that uncommon. I paid about $20 for my copy (japanese version). Keio will be a lot harder to find, it's probably the most expensive Mega CD shmup.

GIANT SQUID · Post by **GIANT SQUID** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:58 pm

cool, i just looked them up, i just realized i own lords of thunder for he sega cd...what a lame-o.... i don't even know what i own anymore....

GIANT SQUID · Post by **GIANT SQUID** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:08 pm

ug holy crap...lords of thunder is THAT game?!?!? i didn't even know it was a shooter, but i knew abotu lot on the tg16, what an idiot... i was given that game by an old man in a videogame store that wouldn't take it off his hands hahahah. i just threw it in my sega cd box with the other sega cd games i had, which turned out to be good games hahaha, popful mail, snatcher, etc....sweet. i am so happy i kept everything i ever bought hahaha.

gundamalpha · Post by **gundamalpha** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:50 pm

can anyone list genesis shmups that are regional locked? so far i only know crying (jp version) is locked. i'm trying to expand my megadrive/genesis collection, just bought 7 shmups for it today

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:28 pm

There was one rare Sega CD shooter that I loved. It's called Android Assault a.k.a Bani Arm. The game is so rare on the Sega CD, that it's cheap!! If you want a good shoother, get that one. Release in US and Japan.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:37 pm

Yip. Bari-Arm is great. A forgotten gem.

gundamalpha wrote:can anyone list genesis shmups that are regional locked? so far i only know crying (jp version) is locked. i'm trying to expand my megadrive/genesis collection, just bought 7 shmups for it today

Alien Soldier and Contra The Hard Corps are locked. Don't know of any scrolling shooters other than Crying that have region protection. I think they're all fine to play.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:43 pm

Thunderforce IV is too i think (at least so i've heard).

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:59 pm

captain ahar wrote:Thunderforce IV is too i think (at least so i've heard).

Yeah, I heard this too. Actually, it gives a message when you play on other regions besides the region the game is from on emulators, so I assume that it does have region protection. There is a Game Genie code to bypass the locking, though.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:12 pm

captain ahar wrote:Thunderforce IV is too i think (at least so i've heard).

Actually you're right. I've tried it myself too, and it has region lockout.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:55 am

About Aero Blasters for the Genesis, it sucks!!

STAY WITH THE TG-16 VERSION!

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:46 am

Fighter17 wrote:About Aero Blasters for the Genesis, it sucks!!

STAY WITH THE TG-16 VERSION!

I'm actually planning to get this game soon, but I've seen no indication why the PCE version would be so much better than the MD one. Can you eviscerate?

nsonthi77@hotmail.com · Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:32 am

Just played Devine Sealing....what a freakin joke of a game.

Also, I've tried out Heavy Unit and Verytex and both shooter are not as bad as people make them out to be.