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http://tinyurl.com/2facxy

I found an ebay auction with Pokemon games on the Famicom.. I never knew they were able to convert them on it. I know they're pirates but still, first time I've ever seen it. It'd be almost worth getting it so I can sell my gameboy.
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Also part of that auction: Robocop 4 starring Boba Fett :lol:
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"Monster in my Pockey" lol. It would be even funnier if it was spelled as "pocky". I love pocky, especially the strawberry kind. good stuff.

I'm guessing those Pokemon games are probably hacks of other games and not ports of the GB games. Not 100% sure, though.
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junkeR wrote:http://tinyurl.com/2facxy

I found an ebay auction with Pokemon games on the Famicom.. I never knew they were able to convert them on it. I know they're pirates but still, first time I've ever seen it. It'd be almost worth getting it so I can sell my gameboy.
A Super Gameboy cartridge for SNES would also allow you to play your Game Boy games on your TV.
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Ceph wrote:Also part of that auction: Robocop 4 starring Boba Fett :lol:
Hahah
I barely looked at the auction initially but it made my day when I took a second look! :D
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Limbrooke wrote:
Ceph wrote:Also part of that auction: Robocop 4 starring Boba Fett :lol:
Rofl!
I barely looked at the auction initially but it made my day when I took a second look! :D
Yeah same with me, too!
That made my day! :lol: :lol:
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Ceph wrote:A Super Gameboy cartridge for SNES would also allow you to play your Game Boy games on your TV.
I wouldn't mind getting one but I read that is plays the music a bit faster then on a real Gameboy. I used to own a GBA Player on the Gamecube, but recently sold it due to my obtaining of a Wii.
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junkeR wrote:
Limbrooke wrote:
Ceph wrote:Also part of that auction: Robocop 4 starring Boba Fett :lol:
Rofl!
I barely looked at the auction initially but it made my day when I took a second look! :D
Yeah same with me, too!
That made my day! :lol: :lol:
Ditto. I just died at that shit. :P
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I hope there will be one with IkyRuga on it next. :)
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A monster-collect'em-up is one of the game genres the NES has a big gaping void in its side. I would be all over developing one (trading would be done with Animal Crossing-esque passwords) if I wanted to be homeless.

Are there any other kinds of genres that arose that are nascent on the platform? Bejeweled Match Three games? Diablo-like casino loot? Tower defense/rts's?

Which reminds me that Retro City Rampage (previously, Grandtheftendo - a GTA3 remake for the NES. Which didn't feature a time traveling DeLorean.) draws near...
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There really weren't a lot of monster collecting RPGs around in the 80s...
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Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei.
Is there any Doom clone on the NES? After the homebrew Speccy port of Doom it wouldn't be that surprising...
As for collecting randomly generated loot Diablo way, I thought memory was an issue on 8-bit consoles. It's quite a lot of data to be stored in memory all the time, isn't it?
I still remember how gobsmacked I was by the fact Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance keeps ALL the loot where it landed ALL the time (maybe it's not there anymore once you're done with a chapter). On top of the superb presentation and performance, that is. It was very unlike that gen of consoles. Also, loading and saving was quick.
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Obiwanshinobi wrote:Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei.
Hrm I actually have that game. Too bad it's unplayable when you don't understand Japanese.
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Either the Super Famicom remake, or the PlayStation port of that remake got fan-translated if I remember correctly. If you are unable to play games on a computer, even with a joypad, you might be interested in a flash cartridge for the SNES.
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Obiwanshinobi wrote:As for collecting randomly generated loot Diablo way, I thought memory was an issue on 8-bit consoles. It's quite a lot of data to be stored in memory all the time, isn't it?
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 2kB. 'Paedia says it could be expanded by some more stapled onto the cart, but I can't find a list of game examples that did this. : <

It's utter luxury compared to the 26 bytes the 2600 gives you - I worked it out once and you could in theory make a jRPG with a party+monster groups that number 4 characters on each side... but you wouldn't have enough flags to track damage shields, buff/debuff states, etc. You could handle two states for every character on one byte if you like, say Poison+Sleep. They would just have to have a flat % chance of falling off per turn.

Maybe you can't have the pinatas shower the screen with lewt (99.9% trash), and maybe you can't store +x values in a fine granularity (Your +100..200% damage affix might be a +100 | 120 | 140 | 160 | 180 | 190 | 200 affix instead), but you could certainly have random affix items in an NES game. I would suggest sticking it onto a Zelda clone, which would make it more Zelda than Zelda. (Which is the best way to design any game. Dial it up to 11.)

Bonus tip: affixes wouldn't have to be generated until the item is picked up.
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Oh, some kind of stat porn would be doable on the NES for sure, but like MegaTen where you keep refining your gear rather than Diablo or Disgaea where you bathe in it. I mean, Diablo is, to an extent, about piling your stuff up in town and rolling in it.
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"+20 light radius might come in handy someday, somehow!"

(Only -light radius was ever a positive buff.)
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This thread title got me real excited until I saw it was a post I forgot I made four years ago. :(
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junkeR, don't worry. I'll bump it two years later and we can have discussions about it once again and stuff.

So.... anyway... I always thought the battle palettes were god awful in this thing. Washed out colors, black blobs, incorrect colors... just really enraging stuff.

So, this being Romhacking.net, I fixed it.

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To which I'd respond: "I had to do it. THE COLORS WERE WRONG."

And then I'd mumble something about thinking it would have only taken a little under two days to do while walking away..
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BryanM wrote:A rational person who has known the touch of a woman might ask "Bryan, why would you burn three days of your life on something so insignificant?"

To which I'd respond: "I had to do it. THE COLORS WERE WRONG."
Let me respond in a(stereo)typical fashion and say that getting the colors right is obviously the first way to the heart of womankind. :lol:
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After spending entirely too much time with both pokemon sprites and the NES palette (I could write a tiny book)... I noticed a thing I never noticed before: Nidoking and Rhydon are exactly the same.
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Some dude on MiiVerse told me Game Freak stopped production of the original Pokemon games to make Yoshi cause they ran out of funds, anyone know if that's true? The dates don't seem to match up since Yoshi came in 1991 and Pokemon was several years later.
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steveovig wrote:Some dude on MiiVerse told me Game Freak stopped production of the original Pokemon games to make Yoshi cause they ran out of funds, anyone know if that's true? The dates don't seem to match up since Yoshi came in 1991 and Pokemon was several years later.
Pokemon started development in 1990, so it could be true.

Also, speaking of Pokemon on the NES, there was that one terrible Gold "port" in Chinese.
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for your next project maybe you can fix this :trollface:
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ED-057 wrote:for your next project maybe you can fix this :trollface:
http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Quartz/Update%201/
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It is kind of amusing how everyone was on the edge of the abyss back then, like Squaresoft with Final Fantasy. And that no one really expected much of Pocket Monsters...

(But really there was all of dogshit to play when it came to jRPGs on the GB... A wide open space..)
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