Cave Reprint List ver. 1.5

[Skykid]

I think we should open a thread detailing all art and posters that got Cave's reprint treatment.

Good idea, Skykid

Cave's Reprint List

- I'll note down what I know for sure as reprinted/not reprinted, and anything you guys add I'll use to build/edit the list.
- Not dealing with any posters under B1
- Looking for links to images of the items. Have used a few Gamengai ones but can remove if requested.




Artsets

Reprinted Artsets:

Espgaluda
Espgaluda II
Guwange
Ketsui
Ibara
Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou (vanilla)
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.5
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label
Deathsmiles
Deathsmiles Mega Black Label
Deathsmiles II
Mushihimesama Futari 1.5
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label
Akai Katana
Muchi Muchi Pork
Pink Sweets

NEVER REPRINTED ARTSETS:

Donpachi
Dodonpachi
Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou Black Label
Mushihimesama
Mushihimetama
ESPrade
Ibara Kuro
Dangun Feveron
Uo Poko
Akai Katana 360 LE
Akai Katana LE (Home Edition)
Mushihimesama 1.5 Matsuri Ver.

NEVER REPRINTED KIT OBJECTS OR DISCREPANCIES
The following are only for kit artsets that received reprints. For example, if you purchased a reprinted Ketsui artset,
you will still need the following original items to turn it into a full kit (and a poster too, if you're a real completist.)

Guwange

A4 marquee originally came folded (repros unfolded) otherwise identical.

Ketsui:

Yellow Warning Sticker
Flyer Stack in clear resealable bag (30 approx, held together by a wire loop when new)
Suction Cup Hanger
Yellow A4 instruction Sheet (Reprint was on WHITE paper)
Blue A4 instruction Sheet (to show how to hang flyers on cab)

Espgaluda:

Pink A4 instruction sheet (Reprint was on WHITE paper)
Mobile Phone Flyer stack x50
Stack of mini orange flyers with kitty illustration
Cave A4 notice on white paper

Espgaluda II:

Card Spinner Disk
Wire Spinner hanger w/suction cup attachment

Mushihimesama Futari 1.5:

1.5 Mini Sticker
A5 Letter from Cave re: 1.5 update

Mushihimesama Futari Black Label:

Original A4 instruction sheet features AMI information which is removed from the reprint.

Muchi Muchi Pork:

Promo CD with looping PR video
Electronic Piggy toy with blue MMP tag (Originally a Cave matsuri gift, Cave packaged their excess stock into a large quantity of kits.)



Rest:

Guwange - no extras
Ibara - no extras
Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou (vanilla) - no extras
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.5 - no extras
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label - no extras
Deathsmiles - no extras
Deathsmiles Mega Black Label - no extras
Deathsmiles II - no extras (need confirmation)
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label - no extras
Akai Katana - no extras
Pink Sweets - no extras




Posters

Reprinted Posters:

Mushihimesama Futari
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label
Ibara Black Label (Reprint distinguishable by missing 'Sale by AMI' logo from bottom middle.)
Dodonpachi DaiOuJou (vanilla)
Dodonpachi DaiOuJou Black Label
ESPrade
Ketsui


Matsuri Only Posters:

Muchi Muchi Pork (Blue)
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu: Elemental Dolls Montage
Deathsmiles (Blood spattered birdcage version)
Deathsmiles (Yoko Design)
Mushihimesama Futari (Yoko)
Mushihimesama Futari (Clean, no logos)
Guwange (3 faces version)

NEVER REPRINTED KIT POSTERS:

Progear
Muchi Muchi Pork (white)
Deathsmiles (original unbloodied birdcage)
Deathsmiles Mega Black Label
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.5
Dodonpachi SaiDaiOuJou
Espgaluda
Espgaluda II
Espgaluda II (double sized)
Ibara
Akai Katana
Mushihimesama
Akai Katana LE (Home Edition)

Surplus Stock Resale (apparently seen at a Matsuri):

Pink Sweets
Mushihimetama




Cave kit boxes
Old/new style, CPS2 & Unique

SH3 Old Style (compact Cave logo lettering)

Dodonpachi DaiOuJou
Dodonpachi DaiOuJou Black Label
Ketsui
Espgaluda
Mushihimesama
Ibara (Interchangeable: shipped in both new and old style SH3)


SH3 New Style (spaced out Cave logo lettering)

Ibara (Interchangeable: shipped in both new and old style SH3)
Espgaluda II
Ibara Kuro (Some original boxes shipped with a sticker in the bottom right corner.)
Mushihimesama Futari 1.5
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (Some original boxes shipped with a sticker in the bottom right corner.)
Pink Sweets
Muchi Muchi Pork
Deathsmiles
Deathsmiles Mega Black Label
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.0 (Also came in three signed limited edition variants)
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu 1.5


SH3 Annex box (No AMI logo)

Mushihimesama Futari: Another Ver. (International release)
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label
Akai Katana


CPS2 brown cardboard (new style)

Progear

Unique boxes

Donpachi
Dodonpachi
Esprade
Ibara Kuro (made unique by a sticker in bottom corner)
Dangun Feveron
Uo Poko
Guwange
Deathsmiles II
Mushihimesama 1.5
Mushihimesama Futari Black Label (made unique by a sticker in bottom corner)
Akai Katana LE
Akai Katana 360 Edition




Further Info:

Reprinted artsets contain a basic set of four components:

- Marquee
- POP
- Movestrip
- Instruction sheet

They don't include anything else. For instance, Ketsui has 2 additional instruction sheets in blue and yellow which aren't included with a reprint set, like Mushi Futari 1.5 stickers, etc etc

Value of reprints etc are really based on demand and scarcity, with the most common artset being around $40, and the most common poster reprints around the same.
The only discernable difference between original artsets and reprints (based on first-hand comparisons) is that reprints are a touch darker. I accept this wouldn't necessarily be an issue for people building kits.

However, any other differences would be handy to catalogue, so let me know if you're aware of any.

Reprint Differences

Espgaluda Artset - Has a different colour instruction sheet to the original CONFIRMED - Reprint is on white paper, original on pink.

Ketsui Artset - Has a different colour instruction sheet to the original CONFIRMED - Reprint is on white paper, original on yellow.

Ibara Black Label Poster - Reprint is missing the 'Sale by AMI' logo from the bottom middle. CONFIRMED

Mushihimesama Futari Black Label - Reprinted A4 instruction sheet is missing the AMI information on the original CONFIRMED

[kernow]

May be a dumb question, but what's to stop me buying a reprint ketsui artset, throwing away the two extra pieces it came with and pretending to myself and everyone else I'm half way to a full kit? If theres no difference I can't see how people would know if it's original as new art or reprinted.

Not that I'd probably do it, I must admit I've been tempted a few times, but building a kit feels hollow to me, I'd rather acquire it as it came complete.

[Skykid]

May be a dumb question, but what's to stop me buying a reprint ketsui artset, throwing away the two extra pieces it came with and pretending to myself and everyone else I'm half way to a full kit? If theres no difference I can't see how people would know if it's original as new art or reprinted.

Not that I'd probably do it, I must admit I've been tempted a few times, but building a kit feels hollow to me, I'd rather acquire it as it came complete.

I never had that prob tbh. I don't care about matching serials and SH3 boxes don't have them anyway (I definitely can't afford new kits so frankenkits are my only recourse.)

Re: the Ketsui question, reprinted art is pretty much carbon anyway so you would be halfway to a FK.

[sikraiken]

May be a dumb question, but what's to stop me buying a reprint ketsui artset, throwing away the two extra pieces it came with and pretending to myself and everyone else I'm half way to a full kit?

The reprint doesn't come with the two extra pieces.

[kernow]

oh sorry, I thought I read that before in the other thread, oh wells.

I might do it one day but not 100% sure if it'll sit in .. erm well I don't have the box.. heh.

[brentsg]

Skykid, I found a picture of the DeathSmiles II box if you wanted to update the OP. I think this was from SuperPang's kit.

[GaijinPunch]

Mushihime-tama poster was available at an early Masturi. Pretty sure it sold out though quickly. I would say that it and Pink Sweets were some case of extra stock found in a warehouse.

[brentsg]

Mushihime-tama poster was available at an early Masturi. Pretty sure it sold out though quickly. I would say that it and Pink Sweets were some case of extra stock found in a warehouse.

I would bet that a lot of the more recent art was just surplus and not really reprint. I mean DFK BL and AK are two examples where the Matsuri art was really not long after the kit was sold through.

[brentsg]

The Annex box part is wrong.

DFK 1.5 had the previous AMI box. Futari "Another Ver." was the first game to use this box type, followed by DFK BL and Akai Katana.

I think the box has been used for those fanservice grab bags though, minus inserts.

[Skykid]

Lol.

I actually think I have a pic of a DS2 box somewhere...?

EDIT: Tadaah (you weren't too far off. I'll add this to the thread.)

The Annex box part is wrong.

DFK 1.5 had the previous AMI box. Futari "Another Ver." was the first game to use this box type, followed by DFK BL and Akai Katana.

I think the box has been used for those fanservice grab bags though, minus inserts.

Okay, now I'm getting confused. So 1.5 had which box exactly? New style SH3 or something different?

[brentsg]

Okay, now I'm getting confused. So 1.5 had which box exactly? New style SH3 or something different?

Whatever you call the one DeathSmiles was in, the latter AMI ones.

[Skykid]

Okay, now I'm getting confused. So 1.5 had which box exactly? New style SH3 or something different?

Whatever you call the one DeathSmiles was in, the latter AMI ones.

Got it. Rectified and pic added for signed variant.

Any other mistakes on there?

[Bananamatic]

caveboxes.jpg

Why is that picture so damn funny

[Skykid]

caveboxes.jpg

Why is that picture so damn funny

Cos the game was so technically useless I guess.

Is your avatar Ainsley Harriot?

[sven666]

the limited signed ddp dfk boxes were 1.0 (if you want to get technical).

[Casey120]

Some kits out there are probably home build frankenkits without owners even knowing it .
I just bough a mint old style Cave box cheap from a split EspGaluda 2 kit .

[Skykid]

Some kits out there are probably home build frankenkits without owners even knowing it .
I just bough a mint old style Cave box cheap from a split EspGaluda 2 kit .

I guess this thread will help solve that box swapping prob.
And yeah, most kits probably are frankenkits, I'm not sure how many left have made it from distribution -> arcade vendor -> home intact.

the limited signed ddp dfk boxes were 1.0 (if you want to get technical).

If we're going to the trouble to do list em, may as well get it right I suppose.

[SuperPang]

I bet a couple of those work too.

[Dave_K.]

I guess this thread will help solve that box swapping prob.

Sorry I didn't get to comment on GP's post before the other thread locked, but the box issue has been discussed in several past posts. Mushihimesama came in the old box. The only time we've seen it in the newer AMI box is after Ibara came out, probably the second printing of the Ibara pcb/kit, which resulted in the price bottoming out. Everyone starting buying the Ibara just for the box, and completing their mushi kits, passing these off as original. Thats the only time I've ever seen Mushi with the newer AMI box.

I'm sure this was discussed before.

[TonK]

I guess this thread will help solve that box swapping prob.

Sorry I didn't get to comment on GP's post before the other thread locked, but the box issue has been discussed in several past posts. Mushihimesama came in the old box. The only time we've seen it in the newer AMI box is after Ibara came out, probably the second printing of the Ibara pcb/kit, which resulted in the price bottoming out. Everyone starting buying the Ibara just for the box, and completing their mushi kits, passing these off as original. Thats the only time I've ever seen Mushi with the newer AMI box.

I'm sure this was discussed before.

Do you know which box the new revision of Mushi came in?

AFAIK - the first version of Mushi is easy to spot by having the large, brown cap on it. The revised board has the silver cap. Ibara has both. I've owned Ibara with a brown cap and silver cap.

So my guess is that the new revision of Mushi came in the newer Cave/AMI box.

Can anyone confirm?

[Skykid]

I guess this thread will help solve that box swapping prob.

Sorry I didn't get to comment on GP's post before the other thread locked, but the box issue has been discussed in several past posts. Mushihimesama came in the old box. The only time we've seen it in the newer AMI box is after Ibara came out, probably the second printing of the Ibara pcb/kit, which resulted in the price bottoming out. Everyone starting buying the Ibara just for the box, and completing their mushi kits, passing these off as original. Thats the only time I've ever seen Mushi with the newer AMI box.

I'm sure this was discussed before.

Oh man, that sucks.
And to think I trusted that Cave-STG list during my collecting campaign.

So... I've got a new style box in pretty good shape that I'll swap for an old style if anyone has one spare?

...plus a little cash if you really want to bust my balls over it.

[TonK]

Here is a new revision Mushi kit, showing the newer box.

I'd like to find out if the owner bought this new.



I think the new revision Mushi kits came in the newer style box.

[sven666]

Do you know which box the new revision of Mushi came in?

AFAIK - the first version of Mushi is easy to spot by having the large, brown cap on it. The revised board has the silver cap. Ibara has both. I've owned Ibara with a brown cap and silver cap.

So my guess is that the new revision of Mushi came in the newer Cave/AMI box.

Can anyone confirm?

there was no reprint for the new release of mushi, theres just the old style box and if you bought one after the revision from a dealer that had sent theirs to be upgraded they proboably just sent it in whatever box they had handy.

[TonK]

Do you know which box the new revision of Mushi came in?

AFAIK - the first version of Mushi is easy to spot by having the large, brown cap on it. The revised board has the silver cap. Ibara has both. I've owned Ibara with a brown cap and silver cap.

So my guess is that the new revision of Mushi came in the newer Cave/AMI box.

Can anyone confirm?

there was no reprint for the new release of mushi, theres just the old style box and if you bought one after the revision from a dealer that had sent theirs to be upgraded they proboably just sent it in whatever box they had handy.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Is it safe to assume that any SH3 board of Mushi with the silver cap is the revised version?

[sven666]

Is it safe to assume that any SH3 board of Mushi with the silver cap is the revised version?

i have no idea, checking the revision on bootup is the only surefire way id say.. dont know why the hardware would be a problem for the new revision when it is such a nonsense "upgrade" anyways.. all the bugs that people notice are still there.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

There might not be much difference from the 1 period version to the 2 but there is a ton of difference between the no period version and the 1. The bullet patterns are tweaked and I think even some enemy hit points might be different like the flying dragons and giant flowers on the last couple of levels. It seems that way anyway. In fact the difficulty seems higher on the first 2 levels as well in the 1 period version.

[Skykid]

Is it safe to assume that any SH3 board of Mushi with the silver cap is the revised version?

i have no idea, checking the revision on bootup is the only surefire way id say.. dont know why the hardware would be a problem for the new revision when it is such a nonsense "upgrade" anyways.. all the bugs that people notice are still there.

Right, so let me get this straight. Revised boards may have come back to vendors in a new style, hence the confusion?

Anyone want to rerun that set of Mushi revisions by me (I'm assuming there was a revision before the v.rare bugfixed boards?)
If mine is a revised board I might not bother with the box swap.

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

There is the original and then 2 known revisions:
http://www.world-of-arcades.net/Cave/Mu ... isions.htm

That page doesn't list all of the changes though.

[Casey120]

I used that old style box I just bought to build me a Ketsui Frankenkit just for LULZ ,
the art I bought new and cheap from Solaris , I got some flyers from Chop altough I dont think the orange one belongs in there .
The dark blue , blue manual and little sticker comes from my Canon .





Now I only have to find the PCB

[Skykid]

Now I only have to find the PCB

You'll need the yellow instruction sheet, a pack of flyers and a suction cup too.
If the orange leaflet has a cat on the other side, it might be the one that kept confusing folks as people kept picturing it with Ketsui, but it actually comes from Espgaluda. Not sure without checking, and that means a bit of a long haul dig.


Other news, my Mushi box crisis averted: My Ibara was sitting in an old style box. Quick swap later and I'm chronologically sorted.