Homura, Giga Wing Gens, Raiden 3 and Shiki III now hacked

[Bort]

TGM3 runs perfectly [...]

perfectly meaning fullscreen? i get small black bars on my 4:3 monitor...

Full speed, no input lag. Even if it's build on PC hardware it's still an arcade game. Non standard resolutions FTW. Adjust those pots.

I see you got it to work but you can just hit F5 to enter window mode.

I tried this with Raiden IV and nothing happened. Can you elaborate on this?

Sorry, I had only tried TGM3 when I posted as it was the only game I'm interested in apart from Spica Adventure and hopefully the Half Life MP games. F5 only seems to work with TGM3.

[BPzeBanshee]

Sorry, I had only tried TGM3 when I posted as it was the only game I'm interested in apart from Spica Adventure and hopefully the Half Life MP games. F5 only seems to work with TGM3.

Damn. Oh well.

I noticed Giga Wing Generations seemed a lot easier to run than Raiden IV. I suppose there is a certain level of compatibility variance between these games. Whether it's how well they're hacked or whatever I have no idea, but I was able to run Giga Wing Generations out of the box with no issues. Good luck finding out a way to get TATE working on these things though, they're obviously made for rotated monitors only and don't seem to have a rotation option in their dipswitch settings. Even using nVIDIA or ATI graphics card-based rotation doesn't affect it unless you can figure out how to consistently get the games windowed for games like Raiden IV and even then.

[Fudoh]

You can do yoko. It's a matter of using the pivot mode of the graphics in conjunction with the internal graphics card scaling options. The graphics card has to pilar-box the actual game and scale it to the display's resolution. I know it's a lot of fiddling, but it should work - at least it did some time ago with older drivers (Nvidia over here).

[BPzeBanshee]

You can do yoko. It's a matter of using the pivot mode of the graphics in conjunction with the internal graphics card scaling options. The graphics card has to pilar-box the actual game and scale it to the display's resolution. I know it's a lot of fiddling, but it should work - at least it did some time ago with older drivers (Nvidia over here).

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from here. The 'pivot modes' in the graphics settings don't affect Raiden IV's orientation at all. It's still rotated in exactly the same direction.

[BeruBeru]

The most effective solution

[BPzeBanshee]

I dont even need a second monitor.



I must say though, your camera's better than my lameo mobile phone.

[mjclark]

So does anyone know why if I run game.bat from the game folder Raiden IV runs perfectly every time but if I try to run it from a shortcut on the desktop it always crashes?
And yeah- tate with confidence

[KNTain]

My issue with the rotation of these games isn't that I need them to be in yoko, but that I need to flip them upside down since my stand rotates in the opposite direction.

I'm fine with everything but Gigawing, which gets pretty fucked up visually when I tell my drivers to rotate the screen 180 degrees. Almost like the screen is covered with a filter that has its tiles misaligned, if that makes any sense. I'm running nVidia with recent drivers.

[BeruBeru]

even though I use radeon, try to disable gpu scaling, than change to the game native resolution directly from windows, choose your mode ( flipped) and it should word

[DeathAxe]

Where are you folk getting these games from? all I can find is other forums with people saying they are 'floating around' which doesn't mean jack.

[Ghegs]

No ISO trading, ROM begging, bootlegging, modchip sales, copyright infringement, or assistance with any of these.

[lewisit]

[...] my stand rotates in the opposite direction.

an easy fix for that: unscrew the monitor from the stand in neutral position - rotate the monitor 90° - screw the monitor in this position back on the stand (which is still in neutral position) - now it rotatest in the other direction

[KNTain]

oh man.

i feel dumb.

Trying that as soon as I get home.

[third_strike]

Just tate and be happy

My dog approves

[DeathAxe]

No ISO trading, ROM begging, bootlegging, modchip sales, copyright infringement, or assistance with any of these.

but yet this topic is a conversation of people playing a bootlegged game. ummmm k.



So I have blazblue, opens on my laptop, but on my main pc the game exe file opens for a bit then closes. Any ideas?

[drunkninja24]

No ISO trading, ROM begging, bootlegging, modchip sales, copyright infringement, or assistance with any of these.

but yet this topic is a conversation of people playing a bootlegged game. ummmm k.

Yes, we're discussing playing, but we're not discussing where we actually got these from. That's the difference.

[null1024]

Remember that you can map a folder to D: if you have any issues with the game needing that.

So putting

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subst d: c:\thisiswheresettingsfor___go\

in your startup script, changing the folder name as needed.

Also, if it won't allow different games to use the same d: drive [I dunno, only thing I've run was BB:CS], just unmap it at the beginning with:

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subst d: /d

and point it to a different folder for that game.

This is all assuming your D: drive isn't mapped to something like, say a CD drive.
Read about remapping that here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307844

[JJXB]

has anyone else noticed how the typex loader games tend to mess around with your wireless network connections? every time i tried GWG it kept on freezing temporarily and taking the net connection with the freezes. and is there any way to rotate it?
and is there any way to stop the controls messing around? a friend has been trying to practice BB:CS (i can practice anytime since GF bought CT and CS on 360) and he has no consoles it's on. so when he tries to perform stuff like astrals and distortions he finds it troublesome since he can't get the xpadder/joy2key approach to work and via controller the input doesn't always accept.

[KNTain]

Anybody else only get half a player ship model in Raiden III?

[BPzeBanshee]

Anybody else only get half a player ship model in Raiden III?

I once got this playing the PC port of Raiden III on my legacy machine. Update your graphics drivers, or if your computer's like mine and it's card isn't supported anymore try and find the last version that was supported. Maybe even ask around for a replacement graphics card, the real old ones are just stacked and stacked behind most dedicated computer stores in my experience.

has anyone else noticed how the typex loader games tend to mess around with your wireless network connections? every time i tried GWG it kept on freezing temporarily and taking the net connection with the freezes. and is there any way to rotate it?
and is there any way to stop the controls messing around? a friend has been trying to practice BB:CS (i can practice anytime since GF bought CT and CS on 360) and he has no consoles it's on. so when he tries to perform stuff like astrals and distortions he finds it troublesome since he can't get the xpadder/joy2key approach to work and via controller the input doesn't always accept.

I can't speak for all of them but Raiden IV will not rotate even if you rotate your desktop on the software level. The "issue" of rotating these games has also been mentioned several times before in previous posts which is why the rotated monitor pictures are here - flipping your monitor is the easiest, best and currently only way to do this.
As for the controls, check if you can use diagonals. If not, read previous posts since that issue has been addressed here before too. If so, forget Joy2Key and check Xpadder's settings to see whether it's using DirectInput or XInput as this may have an effect on whether your controllers are recognised by it or not.

[JJXB]

I can't speak for all of them but Raiden IV will not rotate even if you rotate your desktop on the software level. The "issue" of rotating these games has also been mentioned several times before in previous posts which is why the rotated monitor pictures are here - flipping your monitor is the easiest, best and currently only way to do this.
As for the controls, check if you can use diagonals. If not, read previous posts since that issue has been addressed here before too. If so, forget Joy2Key and check Xpadder's settings to see whether it's using DirectInput or XInput as this may have an effect on whether your controllers are recognised by it or not.[/quote]
will ask my friend if he manages to resolve the controls that way. and it's a bit impractical to turn my girlfriend's laptop on it's side. so that's that out of the window for the moment.

[KNTain]

I was getting kind of annoyed at having to run JoyToKey, so I went out of my way to get XBCD working on Windows 7. A bit of a pain, but now I don't need to run JTK or worry about that frame of lag it can make! Pretty happy about that.

I once got this playing the PC port of Raiden III on my legacy machine. Update your graphics drivers, or if your computer's like mine and it's card isn't supported anymore try and find the last version that was supported. Maybe even ask around for a replacement graphics card, the real old ones are just stacked and stacked behind most dedicated computer stores in my experience.

I'm using a GTX580 that I just beat Witcher 2 with. Maybe it's the fault of the latest nVidia drivers.

[kennyrh]

So does anyone know why if I run game.bat from the game folder Raiden IV runs perfectly every time but if I try to run it from a shortcut on the desktop it always crashes?
And yeah- tate with confidence

Your monitor is rotated the opposite way to everybody else . . . .

. . .how did you do that ??

[mjclark]

Your monitor is rotated the opposite way to everybody else . . . .
. . .how did you do that ??

By the power of the golden labrador!

Also that CRT was set up for MAME which will rotate either way.
Now we're on Raiden IV and Under The Lotus it's rotated the other way but I sold my camera to buy sweets

[DeathAxe]

I have been having fun playing some of these games. Can't run all of them, fighters run slow on my system, and some shooters have the screen the other way and I can't turn my hd tv round lol. Is there a dip setting to make it the right way? or yoko I think it is called.

I have a question about the sound on these games. My speakers are in 5.1 configuration; is this the reason most of the games are missing sounds? I get music, select sounds, but then no shooting sounds.

I have this issue with the PC version of trouble witches too, as well as the type x version.

On blazblue I get full sound, game seems to be in 2.1 config as I get the music in the left and right channels and the voices and sounds in the centre speaker.

[kennyrh]

Your monitor is rotated the opposite way to everybody else . . . .
. . .how did you do that ??

By the power of the golden labrador!

Also that CRT was set up for MAME which will rotate either way.
Now we're on Raiden IV and Under The Lotus it's rotated the other way but I sold my camera to buy sweets

No, sorry mate, maybe I said it wrong. What i meant was how did you manage to get the game itself rotated the other way. When my monitor is turned that way the game is upside down

Your monitor doesn't look as if it rotates on a swivel bracket like mine.

[mjclark]

What I meant was how did you manage to get the game itself rotated the other way. When my monitor is turned that way the game is upside down
Your monitor doesn't look as if it rotates on a swivel bracket like mine.

Ahhh- this is DDP DOJBL on MAME though so the game's not actually rotated at all. MAME will rotate counterclockwise if you want it to(in display options) but actually in this case I was using MAME with nVRotate. I'd got MAME set up for no rotation with my entire desktop rotated 270deg.
GwangeDash also allowed counterclockwise rotation and when that photo was taken that and MAME was all I was playing
There's a bug in Under The Lotus that makes it crash if you use nVRotate so I rotated my CRT the other way for that and now I am playing mainly Raiden IV so it's staying that way.
Interestingly, in under a week everything's been fixed for Raiden IV on PC (launching consistently, saving to C:\ and running from a desktop shortcut) except for the forced rotation, so let's all just tate on

[kennyrh]

What I meant was how did you manage to get the game itself rotated the other way. When my monitor is turned that way the game is upside down
Your monitor doesn't look as if it rotates on a swivel bracket like mine.

Ahhh- this is DDP DOJBL on MAME though so the game's not actually rotated at all. MAME will rotate counterclockwise if you want it to(in display options) but actually in this case I was using MAME with nVRotate. I'd got MAME set up for no rotation with my entire desktop rotated 270deg.
GwangeDash also allowed counterclockwise rotation and when that photo was taken that and MAME was all I was playing
There's a bug in Under The Lotus that makes it crash if you use nVRotate so I rotated my CRT the other way for that and now I am playing mainly Raiden IV so it's staying that way.
Interestingly, in under a week everything's been fixed for Raiden IV on PC (launching consistently, saving to C:\ and running from a desktop shortcut) except for the forced rotation, so let's all just tate on

Oh right, I understand . . .I just assumed that the game in the shot was one of the hacked ones.

Yeah, as you say, Raiden IV is now working perfectly apart from the rotation issue. My only solution is to dig out my old 17" rotatable monitor, unscrew the display, rotate the bracket to the left and then rescrew the screen back on in that position. When you rotate back the game then plays right side up. It's too much of a fart on with my 23" widescreen monitor, though.

I find it hard to believe that there's NO way to rotate Raiden IV somehow. Almost every tateable shmup i've played either rotates to the left or both ways. Although i do seem to recall a PS2 shmup that only rotated right. Can't recall which one, however

[BPzeBanshee]

Oh right, I understand . . .I just assumed that the game in the shot was one of the hacked ones.

Yeah, as you say, Raiden IV is now working perfectly apart from the rotation issue. My only solution is to dig out my old 17" rotatable monitor, unscrew the display, rotate the bracket to the left and then rescrew the screen back on in that position. When you rotate back the game then plays right side up. It's too much of a fart on with my 23" widescreen monitor, though.

I find it hard to believe that there's NO way to rotate Raiden IV somehow. Almost every tateable shmup i've played either rotates to the left or both ways. Although i do seem to recall a PS2 shmup that only rotated right. Can't recall which one, however

You have to understand that Raiden IV in its Taito Type X form was never intended for anything else but solely rotated monitors. Even I'd thought to begin with this game would've had some form of rotation option within it's dipswitch settings but it doesn't even have that. Furthermore these hacks to be able to run Raiden IV without having it saving to D:\ are just that, and what you're requesting to have within the game would require recoding of how the display functions for the game work, which is something that only a person very familiar with how Raiden IV works as an executable program or the creators themselves, and therefore what 'getting the port', or 'flipping your monitor' is for.

As for shmups that only rotate in one direction, I believe there was a Namco (or Konami, or Tecmo - I get them mixed up all the time and its late here for me at time of typing) collection game with Galaga and a few others that would rotate in the direction opposite of those that standard JAMMA arcade monitors did, which is quite a severe screwup by the port developers there. Generally though you'll expect a game to be able to rotate at 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees, and some Cave game ports such as Guwange even have such settings as to have the game screen rotated to the exact degree, so if you want a game rotated at 91 degrees you could do it within the game settings instead of the monitor settings.

[hwl]

Thanks for this thread. It took me a while to find the needed files and get those games running, just to realize (again) that I hate "3D"-shmups. These are so ugly, it's not even funny. It's unbelievable how much fun I had (still have) playing Giga Wing, Raiden 1, 2 & DX while playing these 3D-games. They suck so much. :/ I'm not surprised anymore that shmups are a niche genre. There just are no good recent shmups anymore.