RSG for Cave in the EU.

[dunpeal2064]

And the fact that physical release is always better than digital.

For a tiny minority who have an unnatural obsession with plastic casing, sure.

Hey, there is paper inside that sexy peice of plastic!

I am definitely one for physical releases. I totally understand the digital releases, and it only makes sense. I still really enjoy colored manuals with lots of pictures, a bitchin cover with some cool spine art, and maybe even some extras that are totally useless.

Its not that its whats important, and the game itself is the focal point. However, if I am paying near the same price for either a digital DL or a physical copy, I would always perfer the physical copy.

But yeah, I like Cardboard more than plastic

[DrTrouserPlank]

I don't think we'll get anything as recent as Akai Katana. Whilst I do see that the game being a hori does make it more likely that it could get some sort of release (although if it's GOD it will be US only), I don't see RSG taking the risk with it.

Due to the number of requests the only other option I can see them going with is Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu, as the game itself doesn't look too niche for a western audience and looks how people expect shooters to look.

I think we'll get DS2 as it's the lowest risk choice for them.

I don't think there's any chance of them releasing more than 1 shooter, frankly I doubt there's enough money in it to bother.

All I do wish is that I knew what they were looking at, when, and how many they intend to release over the next (say) year. That way I can weigh-up whether a Japanese 360 is worth the cost, or whether I can settle for a selection of localised titles and save the rather hefty expense for the sake of about 5 games.

[Weak Boson]

I would have thought Akai Katana would be an easier sell than DS2 - being a sequel may be a plus, but it does look terrible (graphically (and I'm sure it looks fine when playing it but on all the videos I've seen it's looked pretty shaky)). In contrast, I think AK has just the right amount of manly tanks and ships combined with Japanese peculiarities - and all in 16:9 HD. People will get the impression from DS2 that it's just more of the same, but with worse graphics, whereas AK is something completely new. Building up the Deathsmiles brand isn't a bad idea, but wouldn’t be better to build the Cave brand?

Not that there's much point speculating at this point. I really can't wait, though. Torisu, you guys did a really terrific job with Deathsmiles but I'm not sure I can take the suspense much longer.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

I dont mind buying my games on a DD service, if the game is at a cheap price (unfortunatly with many AAA DD games this isnt the case with many boxed versions been cheaper by a big margin. EG Resident Evil 4 on steam cost more than the boxed version even when it was on a 50% off steam sale). When it comes to my favorite games I will pick boxed 100% of the time if I can find it

My predictions for RSG upcomming STGs are:-

DeathSmiles 2X This game has gotta be a dead cert.

Akia Katana in 6-12 months time as its a recent Japanese release so Cave wont let RSG release a localised version until Cave have milked import market. The longer RSG delay on their anoucement the more probable the game is comming to the west.

DFK BL / 1.5 double pack sold at a slightly higher RRP. This is the least possible of the 3 recent Cave STGs given the western market prefer Horis to Verts. However the iphone port will have endeared the game to some gamers. RSG know that this is the most requested STG by the fans

I wonder if RSG think they can make any cash off Futari or EspGuluda 2 if they keep their costs to rock bottom. Probably not but who knows (TBH ild rather RSG give these a miss as there is such a thing as too many shmups for the casual market and it will likly eat into more deserving STGs sales (Just like what happened with every shmup been released in Feb / Mar of this year, that was a bit of a dumb move if you ask me)

[Sumez]

Why don't you think we'll get recent releases?

Akai Katana is an OBVIOUS choice, because it looks appealing, is horizontal, AND is Cave's newest release, and usually that's what publishers do - release new games. Also out of all the bazillion request threads for more Cave games in Europe, RSG chose to reply in that particular thread (though it WAS a direct response to a guy whining about all the focus on Wii RPGs, and last time they made a similar response it was in a DFK thread).

So, I figure Akai is the most likely game, followed by DS2X, while DFKBL is the one I personally want the most. But right now I'm being optimistic and figure that RSG are aiming for at least 2-3 more Cave releases from the sound of it.

[guyot]

If RSG bring out Akai, I hope they keep the japanese cover, which was amazing.

I would very much expect RSG to skip esp 2 & mushime 2 as part of the core market will already have those - though I would buy them again if they have all the DLC released since(assuming there's been some? Haven't kept track).

Hopefully we'll know this week. Any or all of the gang of five would do me.

[spadgy]

I know they almost need no more praise from us lot in this thread, but I thought I'd chip in based on knowing the RSG guys fairly well in the real world through work.

They have done us an amazing service, they really care about making the right choices with the games they put out, and they really care about satisfying core audiences like us lot. We are bloody lucky to have them recognising us and listening to us, and if they do do future Cave games, I'm very confident they'll do a fine job.

[Sumez]

I would very much expect RSG to skip esp 2 & mushime 2 as part of the core market will already have those - though I would buy them again if they have all the DLC released since(assuming there's been some? Haven't kept track).

ESP2 is a stellar release with a ton of modes included, so no DLC neccessary.

Futari however has two DLC's, Black Label being the most interesting one (and the other one a first press thing) - it seems to me that most people here prefer Black Label to "white", or at least consider it just as good.

[guyot]

ESP2 is a stellar release with a ton of modes included, so no DLC neccessary.

Futari however has two DLC's, Black Label being the most interesting one (and the other one a first press thing) - it seems to me that most people here prefer Black Label to "white", or at least consider it just as good.

Ah, I see. I've never taken my 360 online so I haven't had a look.

Might have to do soon though, Guwange & NIN2 are tempting me.

[JJXB]

any updates with what's going on with any release apart from deathsmiles yet? I'm hoping they bring DOJ and DFK over myself since i can't exactly invest in a japanese 360 and playing DOJ on PS2 is awkward for me because of how blurry the PS2 is regardless of if it's through a SDTV or HDTV. best i settle with at the moment is playing most of this stuff on my PSP (not ideal but meh)

[DrTrouserPlank]

This is driving me up the wall!

I need to know their intentions regarding Akai katana and DDP DFK. I'm taking DS2 as a given for PAL release.

I can buy DDPDFK cheap at the moment, and I'd have to buy a NTSC-J 360 which I'm ok with... but what the hell are RSG gonna do? Realistically I expect them to announce DS2 and nothing more, but you can bet your ass that if I commit myself to the NTSC-J route then the ports will some thick and fast.

[dan76]

Yeah, because you're the center of their universe. Jesus, be patient - it's something you're going to have to learn if you don't own a J360.

I hope Akai Katana gets the release (HD, 16:9, gorgeous 2D graphics, similar difficulty to Deathsmiles, three solid modes on the disc) - DS2 would be a mistake because to the casual player it's worse then the first game (it certainly looks worse) and could kill off the mini industry RSG is trying to start.

DFK/DFKBL would be good, but if they bundle the two titles together you could get lost in all the different versions of the game... but there are worse things I suppose.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Why don't you think we'll get recent releases?

As ive pointed out in the earlier post, its because the game hasnt been out for long in Japan.

Considering all the unexpected things that seem to happen with Cave games, im becoming more and more convinced that RSG might try for one of the region free games, If there is any publisher who could make a profit from these games its RSG, DS1 has shown that they know how to keep costs down to a minimum. Im sure that futari will get a few extra sales just from that You Tube video. I guess it all depends on just how many ppl imported the game and if they think there is enough ppl still havnt bought it.

Its worth remembering that there are shmup fans (and casual fans) out there who dont want the hassle of importing, even though Play Asia removes much of the hassle. Most gamers are lazy and wont buy a game if they have to leave their comfort zone for how the purchase their games. EG all those PC gamers who wont buy a game if it isnt on steam. EDIT if RSG really are gonna go for the region free games they wanna hurry, what with all that too close for comfort BS.

[Sumez]

Why don't you think we'll get recent releases?

As ive pointed out in the earlier post, its because the game hasnt been out for long in Japan.

That doesn't answer my question at all, all you did was rephrase the term "recent release".

So - what makes you think we won't get a game that hasn't been out for long in Japan?
As I already pointed out, recent releases is what a publisher would NORMALLY go for when importing.
RSG didn't go for DeathSmiles because it was an "old" game, but because it was one of the most popular X360 Cave games, as well as the most visually appealing, and, I guess, because it was already translated into English.
In fact, now that I think of it, the choice might actually have been made by Cave who wanted to release the game in Europe, as they did all of the programming on the western versions of the games (translating, removing slowdown, putting it back in, etc.)

[torisuRSG]

Sorry to keep you all waiting for news.

I did think we'd make an announcement before the end of June but now that looks unlikely. There's nothing wrong, just corporate stuff.

[Sumez]

Still checking back here every day. I won't miss out on this announcement.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

@ Sumez, yeah sorry it was my last post was me been lazy. The reason why I think Cave & RSG will want atleast a few months between the Japanese and localised release dates is that they will make more money that way. Both from ppl buying the import and those double dipping which they are less likely to do if the dent to their wallet is still fresh in their mind.

@ torisuRSG No problem man Im just happy to know that some more STGs will be coming my way in the future, im a patient man and can wait in the knowledge that atleast one game will be coming my way that ill enjoy.

[Sumez]

@TrevHead
Well, if that's ever the case, it must be Cave's decision, and not RSG's.

[defected78]

Must say im sorry for starting this thread in frustration and sorry to Torisu.

Ive renamed the thread obviously but inadvertantly and in a good way got some good info in it and it looks promising.

[torisuRSG]

Must say im sorry for starting this thread in frustration and sorry to Torisu.

Ive renamed the thread obviously but inadvertantly and in a good way got some good info in it and it looks promising.

No apology necessary but thank you anyway.