"Touchy Subject" are most girls liars and hoes? Lo

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:50 am

Ok I know this is a weird place to post this but listen to the drama I had tonight.

This is a story that involves 4 people

They are

James my best friend of 17 years
Mark my old best friend of 19 years I met James though Mark
Tiffany My best friend James Fiance
And yours truly

The other night I called my friends girl after they broke up and see what was going on with them. She asked if we could chill and smoke and get some beer so I went with my friend Mark to pick her up.Before we picked her up he bitched and moaned about his missing wallet he accused a mutual friend of stealing. We picked up the girl and chilled then I kicked his ass out.Me and the girl chilled and smoked for several hours talking and shit. She asked to go to the room and lay down so I went to the room and laid down. While I was sleeping she tried to get up on me and said in these exact words " I am a freak I do not want any attachment or feelings but I want to fuck you" my reaction was "I used to be a freak but I do not fuck" I then went to sleep she hung out with me all day then I took her back to her house at 7.When we dropped her off I found his wallet and he knew I was crushing on this girl some but not alot. I went home and put on some baseball and went to sleep. I got a phone call at 9pm with her screaming and crying her mom kicked her out and needed some help. I went with my friend Mark to pick her up then we picked up some beer and I waited for my friend to drop off some smoke for us. I helped her do some laundry but my dryer was broke so we had to use Mark's dryer. At the time he had the chance he took off with her and I kept calling him asking him to bring back some cd-r. 45 minutes pass and the smoke man pops up and I tell him I have a feeling she is fucking mark. Keep in mind they only known each other a few hours. My boy takes me by Mark's house and I catch them in the act. Mark then gets defensive comes outside and tries to fight me. I turned my back on him as a friend and walked away and told him friends do not do that to people. I feel like my emotions are fucked even though I did nothing with this girl. I have been fucked over in relationships before and I feel deja vu all over. I then called my friend James and he came over in 2 minutes he happened to be in the neighborhood picking up his bassist who lives a block away. I then confessed to him and all his friends what had happened that night. I told him I was not really his friend and I probally would have been different If I had slept with her myself. Am I in the wrong or am I a piece of shit for even involving myself like this.

At the end of the night I lost 2 friends Tiffany and Mark and Gained more trust from James my best friend who held nothing against me and only thanked me for the confirmation of what was going on.

THIS WAS A SCREWED UP NIGHT

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:22 am

This is just life teaching you a lesson. You can't change people from what they are.

You have to tell yourself that if she didnt screw your friend she would have done someone else.

You have also learned that true friends are true friends and what a good friend you are to have. I respect respect, courage and dignity which you showed alot of. It seems your morals are out of balance with your friends, so its not a good idea to be friends because there is such a contrast there. One day your so called friend will be on the receiving end of such an ordeal and it will not be nice for him. I mean if you do that shit you ain't gonna have friends for long anyway.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:47 am

Aye... It'll be tough for James but it takes real balls to do what you did, and you're a good friend for saving him a lot of grief later (i.e. better he find out his fiancee is a ho now than after they're married)

Sly Cherry Chunks · Post by **Sly Cherry Chunks** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:11 am

Touchy answer: Yes they are.

But don't let it put you off.

Minzoku · Post by **Minzoku** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:49 am

Probably. Ask me why I have maybe five friends who are girls and ELEVENTY BILLION friends who are guys. [Yes, I'm a girl!]

I probably lie only on accident, but I'm definitely a 'ho

[though a monogamous one!

:lol::lol:]

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:04 am

My advice...Kill em all and let God sort em out!

Seriously, I'll try and answer your questions more thoughtfully after I've delt with some of my own problems.
(maybe I can offer some helpfull suggestions tomorrow)

D · Post by D » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:05 am

Friends change.

Some friends will allways be cool, but some friends as they grow up will become 'evil'. I don't know why but they become haters.
Happens to me, not that often, but I see it happening between mutual friends more often. They fuck up shit for each other.

Can't we all just get along, especially if you allready know each other.
And when it comes to girls. Some people will tell girls bad stuff about other guys, sometimes not even true.

I guess it's the same or perhaps even more amongst women. (jealousy of beauty/figure)

Stormowl · Post by **Stormowl** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:10 pm

kind of a strange to question if all girls are liars and hoes after this incident. no, there are lots of sweeties out there, you just have to find them. but are all girls on MTV liars and hoes? yes.

PsikyoPshumpPshooterP · Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:26 pm

i was ina situation like that before too..and i ,too, lost both friends i trusted very well..but you did the right thing...i respect that..it shows alot of courage and trust that you showed to james..in the end, your friendship with james will be a tight one ...you rock

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:23 pm

So was she hot?

Also don't worry about it. The girl was a ho and that was no real friend of your's. Get back on the wagon as soon as you can. All of the smoking isn't helping you guys either. Seriously Peter Jennings RIP.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:02 pm

There seems to be a lot of boozing, smoking and bass in this event maybe they;re related.... anyway yes most woman are evil superficial monsters, more dangerous than any opponent, they hurt you mentally! I'm still hurt from the last dam one......

regardless probably did right thing, people are right, friends change you change, you move on meet new people and make new friends. I recently lost most of my friends from school this year what with university and multiple destinations, people I;d known for like 15 years all gone but if anything this year of change has been the best thing thats ever happened.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:28 pm

Here's my theory: They aren't all insane liars, but the stable, sane ones go fast. Many grow out of their flakiness sometime during their 30s/late 20s, just as many men grow out of their penchant to double cross their good friends the moment vaginers are involved around the same time... even though some simply move on from fucking over their friends to fucking over their (the fuckers' own, not their friends') wives and fiancees.

Some never grow out of it, though. They get around a lot though, and in aggregation give the appearance of being more common than they actually are because they haven't been able to leave the pool like their less flaky, more faithful peers have.

jp · Post by jp » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:28 pm

Fuck Mark and Tiffany. You did the right thing, those other two are foul pieces of shit for that mess. Especially if that bitch was engaged.

TGK · Post by **TGK** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:09 pm

That is exactly the right thing to do ThirdStrike.

True friends will stay with you if you treat them well.

Screw the fake ones.

Icecap Veiwin · Post by **Icecap Veiwin** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:14 pm

To completely change the subject. I knew a woman who lied.

About being a woman. I laughed when he said he was a guy

Long story, I'll explain later. ThirdStrike, good job.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:56 pm

I'd be wary of any woman who came to me just because she wanted to bang me. Isn't that precisely what most women complain about us guys, seeing them as sex objects? Hello?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:59 pm

Specineff wrote:Isn't that precisely what most women complain about us guys, seeing them as sex objects? Hello?

Heh, don't even get me started on some of the stuff that some gals wear (or, more appropriately, don't wear) out in public, while making the above complaint with righteous indignation...but I digress.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:03 pm

Specineff wrote:I'd be wary of any woman who came to me just because she wanted to bang me. Isn't that precisely what most women complain about us guys, seeing them as sex objects? Hello?

Some women can be complete pigs. Just the other day I was renting private ryan and the checkout girl said "Saving Private Parts...oops sorry." Now that would be hot if the chick was the least bit attractive but she wasn't and probably weighed more than your average arcade cab.

So girls don't want fat/ old/ horny/ nerdy guys slavoring over them when they go to clubs but we guys are supposed to put up with this?

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:07 pm

Most of them - yes. All of them - no.

The same can be said of guys, though.

russ · Post by **russ** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:08 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:Heh, don't even get me started on some of the stuff that some gals wear (or, more appropriately, don't wear) out in public, while making the above complaint with righteous indignation...but I digress.

If you confront them about their revealing appearance though, they jump into denial and say how it's "expressive" or something character-related. Gah, I have no idea, it's impossible to understand these strange creatures...

Nate · Post by **Nate** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:29 pm

Quotes from ThirdStrike:

Me and the girl chilled and smoked for several hours talking and shit.

we picked up some beer and I waited for my friend to drop off some smoke for us.

45 minutes pass and the smoke man pops up and I tell him I have a feeling she is fucking mark.

Kay, I think it's probably time to lay off the ganja for a wee spell and see if your thinking clears up. Just some advice you don't have to take if you don't want to.

I remember one night when I was (presumably) your age when I got really zapped and went over to my bud's house and stayed up for hours gushing and crying at him about how "I was a scum shit for not letting him back in the band after he had quit cause his grandma died years ago...yadda...yadda" (he's back in the band by the way -- this is another band, not Vodkatron BTW)...anyway. Yeah, give yourself about a 3 or 4 month break from the shit if you're able to.
I think this Tiffany girl is shitty for fucking all James' friends and you did do the right thing...I have been put in that position as well and I toughed it out like you did...sure there is some regret in not getting any but...

hey.

Yours is just around the corner my friend.

Ramus · Post by **Ramus** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:35 pm

Fuck Mark and fuck that bitch. Mark seems like a big asshole who doesn't really give a fuck about anyone but himself and that bitch probably would have given you some STD anyways. People change and usually not for the better. Fuck 'em and move on. Don't waste anymore of your time thinking about stupid shit that doesn't matter in the long run. At least you got James to butt-fuck now

. He sounds "tight". Heh heh, JK.

Dartagnan1083 · Post by **Dartagnan1083** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:59 pm

It's best not to think too much into it. . .
Rule #1 is that Women do not make sense, and should not be expected to.

Otherwise, just listen to Ramus.