XBOX 360 in a Sega New Net City candy cabinet

[Frenetic]

Hi there,

Am getting some XBOX 360 controllers pad hacked from HarumaN. Was wondering if anyone could share how they hooked up their XBOX 360 hacked pads to their control panel. Did you use clips and then run leads? Did you use a connector from the pad to the control panel? If so, what did you use/do? I'd love to get something that would allow me to just plug into the control panel, since I also am getting some Dreamcast pads hacked as well.

[mesmer]

Most cabs have a jamma harness, you would connect the wires coming off your padhacks to a finger board and plug it in.

I don't know much about the net city / NNC, but the NNC is JVS so the controls are probably connected directly to a JVS IO board which then has a usb connector which plugs into a naomi or other jvs game. You'll probably have to figure out the wiring and where you can intercept the control signals between the CP and JVS I/O board.

[Frenetic]

That is definitely correct, the New Net City is a JVS cab without JAMMA. I was talking to my friend and we were thinking about clips directly on the joystick and button switches from the leads from the hacked pad, but was wondering if someone else had done this already differently. Would definitely like to hear more alternatives.

Cheers,
F

[mesmer]

Looks like there is a jamma harness you can buy: http://www.rs2006.co.jp/j/harnes/index.html Which shows that there is some location that you can just plug into to get the control signals. Hopefully you can find someone that has this jamma harness and can examine it for you. Or find the schematic for the NNC which will show you which connectors connect to what.

[ikaruga007]

Connectors directly to the control panel will work but it means that every time you want to switch to JVS (or any other system), you have to unplug the connectors to every input and then plug in the ones for the new system.

For my NNC, I have three female AMP connectors, exactly mirroring the connectors to the JVS I/O that the male AMP connectors from the controls plug into. The female AMP connectors are wired to a male Dsub15 connector, where I have my own standard (A on pin1, B on pin 2 and so on). You will need two male DSUB-15 connectors if you have a 2-player 12-button panel. Each pad hack is then wired to a female Dsub15 connector (one for each pad hack) that is used to plug the pad hacks to the control panel.

This way, you only have to switch the three AMP connectors to switch between JVS and Xbox 360.

The pad hacks you get from HarumaN have some nice "sockets" so each cable is nicely separated. This way, you can wire the pad hacks to your own female Dsub15 connector without interfering with HarumaN's nice work.

Soldering Dsub15 connectors is a bit fiddly but I managed to do it and I have NEVER soldered before in my life. Found a tutorial on youtube that was helpful. Some tips:
* Start by putting solder in the small sockets for each pin. This way, you can just hold the wire against the socket and then heat up the tin to make the wire just slide into the socket and stay there.
* Pre-tin the wires slightly before trying to soldering it to the Dsub15.
* After you've soldered all wires to the Dsub15, use heat shrink to isolate each socket.

Hope this helps.

BTW, the pinout for the AMP connectors can be found here:
http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Sega_New_Net_City

[Frenetic]

mesmer, and ikaruga007, thanks so much for your input!

Thanks for the Naomi pinout link, I'm studying it as well as HarumaN 's wiring pinout located at Build Your Own Arcade Controls in this thread: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=76185.0

I can figure out where each button/direction pin will go but I had a question about the 5v (5v means 5 volts?) pinout. Was that used or just left empty when you were building the female AMP connector are wired to the male Dsub15 connector?

Secondly, I can see the 2 female AMP connectors needed for the 1st and 2nd player panels, but what was the 3rd AMP connector used for? The kick harness?

Thirdly, how do you run the cords from the controllers to the Xbox 360? Did you have to remove a rail and run them through from the control panel or did you drill through the control panel? I'm also planning to get a PC to run MAME, and I can figure I'll be able to use the Xbox 360 controllers to the Mame PC, maybe incorporating a USB switch like this found here: http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-2-Port-S ... B000F4C310

Thanks for all your help,
F

[mesmer]

how do you run the cords from the controllers to the Xbox 360? Did you have to remove a rail and run them through from the control panel or did you drill through the control panel?

put the padhacks in the bottom, not under the CP

I'm also planning to get a PC to run MAME, and I can figure I'll be able to use the Xbox 360 controllers to the Mame PC, maybe incorporating a USB switch like this found here: http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-2-Port-S ... B000F4C310

Yep, that will work, I use my ps2 padhacks w/ my PC for MAME using a dual PS2 to usb adapter. I'm starting to look into switches now, but I'm starting with figuring out video/audio.