New G.Rev shooter (Strania XBLA)

[antares]

So for the Weapon Master achievement, I'm guessing they expect you to clear the game using only 1 weapon each time?

I think you have to get every weapon fully upgraded in one playthrough.
Should be possible if you pick up every weapon upgrade, no?

[TodayIsForgotten]

So for the Weapon Master achievement, I'm guessing they expect you to clear the game using only 1 weapon each time?

I think you have to get every weapon fully upgraded in one playthrough.
Should be possible if you pick up every weapon upgrade, no?

I thought this too but where are you going to get x10 on bombs. unless you get bombs on level 2 at that pick up area between the meandering section. I think it has to be every time you beat the game it remembers what you maxed out.

[iconoclast]

I think you have to get every weapon fully upgraded in one playthrough.
Should be possible if you pick up every weapon upgrade, no?

I don't think that's it. It says you have to get 10-dan for every weapon, and I didn't even come close to getting it with any weapon just now. So I think the only way to reach max rank with a weapon is if you use it exclusively during the entire run.

I hope I'm wrong though, since that sounds like a huge pain in the ass.

[MrMonkeyMan]

Are you sure you don't just get 1 dan for every weapon you maxed out on that run, and the game just keeps a running total?

I thought this too but where are you going to get x10 on bombs. unless you get bombs on level 2 at that pick up area between the meandering section. I think it has to be every time you beat the game it remembers what you maxed out.

I'm sure you can max out bombs on stage 5 if you destroy as much as you possibly can with them.

Does anyone else have problems with the hard leaderboard? I've set and uploaded a few new records, but I've still got my very first score up there. I tried out expert right after I set my latest hard score and my expert score uploaded fine.

[nZero]

Trying to access the leaderboards actually freezes my console, so I'm thinking there will be leaderboards-related fixes in the patch.

[TodayIsForgotten]

Are you sure you don't just get 1 dan for every weapon you maxed out on that run, and the game just keeps a running total?

I thought this too but where are you going to get x10 on bombs. unless you get bombs on level 2 at that pick up area between the meandering section. I think it has to be every time you beat the game it remembers what you maxed out.

I'm sure you can max out bombs on stage 5 if you destroy as much as you possibly can with them.

Does anyone else have problems with the hard leaderboard? I've set and uploaded a few new records, but I've still got my very first score up there. I tried out expert right after I set my latest hard score and my expert score uploaded fine.

Nah you can get it down to 5. You can MAYBE get it to max on the first row of those machine guys on level 6

yea i have new hard and expert runs - no dice on score.

[MrMonkeyMan]

I got bombs to 1 in training just now. Just make sure you use it to take out as many enemies that come from the bottom of the screen as you can, use it on those chunks of the satellite you can destroy, and use it on the boss along with an overdrive finish. You could try saving it for those two large robots in the middle of stage 6 to possibly max it out.

You just need to hit an enemy with a weapon for the points from that enemy to go to your weapon, so you can level up all three weapons at once as long you hit the enemy with all of them at some point.

My problem is I never use the missiles, and can't seem to find any time to upgrade it without messing up some other weapon. It looks like somebody on the leaderboards found a way to max out all the weapons on normal though, so it must be possible.

[Austin]

I downloaded this last night. I didn't give it a ton of time but it seems cool so far. The weapon implementation and some of the level designs are reminiscent of the 16-bit era of shmups.

[MrMonkeyMan]

Finally managed to clear it with all the weapons maxed out. Saved the rocket and sword for the final boss with the bombs in the third slot. Couldn't reclaim first place though.

It sure would be nice if the level of your weapon was displayed somewhere, like in the weapon wheel.

[TodayIsForgotten]

Nice job monkey. I just did it with 7/9. I didn't realize i had sword at 3 and didn't even touch reflect.

[antares]

You guys are crazy, this game has been out for only 3 days

I wish the leaderboards had replay downloading (and I could access them without freezing my XBox). Are any of you planning to upload one of your runs on youtube?

Did you get the weapon master achievement in your run MMM?

[iconoclast]

Alright, I just got 10-dan on the rockets. They were the only weapons I used for the entire run (actually I used the sword a couple times during stage 5, but that's it), and I only got 10-dan as soon as I killed the final boss (got 9 and 10 at the same time actually). So it looks like that's what you need to do for every weapon.

Also, my Hard and Experts scores aren't uploading to the leaderboards either. Only the first score I submitted went through.

[Zaarock]

Did you get the weapon master achievement in your run MMM?

Nah, you don't get it for getting all weapons 1-dan(there are 9 weapons anyway). Just did that and got 14.2mil. Not hard really once you figure out the order you want to level stuff in. Basically just use the weapons where they are best at, the level design is actually done pretty well to accommodate the scoring.

What are the best scores for normal mode on the leaderboard? Still freezes my xbox.. I missed the multiplier and time bonus on the last boss and got pretty bad ranks in that run.

[Klatrymadon]

Where in the levels do you guys use your OD? I keep forgetting to use it beyond the second level, heh. I can't think of very many opportune moments in which to bust it out, though, in terms of scoring...

[Zaarock]

I just use it when the mechs show up on stage 1 and on the laser cannon row on stage 4. You could probably use it on stage 6 because of the big rows of enemies.

[iconoclast]

Did you get the weapon master achievement in your run MMM?

Nah, you don't get it for getting all weapons 1-dan(there are 9 weapons anyway). Just did that and got 14.2mil. Not hard really once you figure out the order you want to level stuff in. Basically just use the weapons where they are best at, the level design is actually done pretty well to accommodate the scoring.

What are the best scores for normal mode on the leaderboard? Still freezes my xbox.. I missed the multiplier and time bonus on the last boss and got pretty bad ranks in that run.

#1 is 14.7 mil, #2 is 14.4 mil, and you are #3.

I wish this game had replays. Seems like too much work to figure out the correct weapon order for myself.

[TodayIsForgotten]

Alright, I just got 10-dan on the rockets. They were the only weapons I used for the entire run (actually I used the sword a couple times during stage 5, but that's it), and I only got 10-dan as soon as I killed the final boss (got 9 and 10 at the same time actually). So it looks like that's what you need to do for every weapon.

Also, my Hard and Experts scores aren't uploading to the leaderboards either. Only the first score I submitted went through.

So then 10 dan isn't the golden weapon 100,000 points? There is something after that? What is throwing me off on what you're saying is the 9/10. To me, im thinking in my head symbols 10 for picking up a weapon....symbols 9 for killing some more...10 9 8 ....1...gold...1....10 ?

[iconoclast]

Actually, figuring out the right weapon path isn't very hard at all. I would've had everything at 1-dan right now, but when I went to pick up the Side shot on stage 5, I accidentally got rid of my Bomb, so that wound up with a low rank. Hopefully next run I'll join you fellas in the 14mil club.

Alright, I just got 10-dan on the rockets. They were the only weapons I used for the entire run (actually I used the sword a couple times during stage 5, but that's it), and I only got 10-dan as soon as I killed the final boss (got 9 and 10 at the same time actually). So it looks like that's what you need to do for every weapon.

Also, my Hard and Experts scores aren't uploading to the leaderboards either. Only the first score I submitted went through.

So then 10 dan isn't the golden weapon 100,000 points? There is something after that? What is throwing me off on what you're saying is the 9/10. To me, im thinking in my head symbols 10 for picking up a weapon....symbols 9 for killing some more...10 9 8 ....1...gold...1....10 ?

That's right. When you first use a weapon, you start at 10-kyu I believe, then you work your way up to 1-dan, and get the gold 100,000 point bonus. Now if you keep using that weapon, you'll gain another rank for another 100,000 point bonus, which is 2-dan. And that keeps going until 10-dan.

Virtua Fighter uses the same ranking system too, that's the only reason I know this stuff, heh.

[TodayIsForgotten]

Actually, figuring out the right weapon path isn't very hard at all. I would've had everything at 1-dan right now, but when I went to pick up the Side shot on stage 5, I accidentally got rid of my Bomb, so that wound up with a low rank. Hopefully next run I'll join you fellas in the 14mil club.

Alright, I just got 10-dan on the rockets. They were the only weapons I used for the entire run (actually I used the sword a couple times during stage 5, but that's it), and I only got 10-dan as soon as I killed the final boss (got 9 and 10 at the same time actually). So it looks like that's what you need to do for every weapon.

Also, my Hard and Experts scores aren't uploading to the leaderboards either. Only the first score I submitted went through.

So then 10 dan isn't the golden weapon 100,000 points? There is something after that? What is throwing me off on what you're saying is the 9/10. To me, im thinking in my head symbols 10 for picking up a weapon....symbols 9 for killing some more...10 9 8 ....1...gold...1....10 ?

That's right. When you first use a weapon, you start at 10-kyu I believe, then you work your way up to 1-dan, and get the gold 100,000 point bonus. Now if you keep using that weapon, you'll gain another rank for another 100,000 point bonus, which is 2-dan. And that keeps going until 10-dan.

Virtua Fighter uses the same ranking system too, that's the only reason I know this stuff, heh.

You stud. Thanks. I thought it was going to be collect every weapon once and beat the game with normal weapons.

[Zaarock]

Made a hi-score thread since it will probably be a while until the patch that fixes the leaderboards: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36135

[Chaos Phoenixma]

Normal 1cc should happen once I stop screwing up stuff. Also, what determines the stage 4 boss patterns? That thing is probably the hardest one outside of the final boss, which is kind of annoying since I consistently no miss it on training, then I get a different pattern in runs. I've seen it do several different ones in runs and in training. The only difficult thing stage 3's boss does can be taken care of with the invincibility if it doesn't use it more than once.

[nZero]

Wow, some very impressive scoring within a week of the release Hope one of you guys in the 14M club can record a replay, I'd love to have a reference run for high-level play.

[Klatrymadon]

Aye, the st4 boss switches up the order of his attacks, but it's easy enough to see what's coming. If he's near the centre of the screen and following you around, he's going to do two punches and a kick (the order of which also varies), and when he moves to the very top of the screen, he's going to dive down and then do his ramming attacks and unleash rings of purple bullets. The pattern is always the same with the ramming - he'll come up on the right, down on the left, and then back up on the right. The rest of his moves are all telegraphed really clearly (glowing hands, exposing his chest-cannon, etc), so after a few goes it won't matter if he mixes them up...

[PC Engine Fan X!]

What are the requirements to unlock all 60 achivements including the two "secret" ones (as listed in the Strainia achivement list)?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[MrMonkeyMan]

Wow, some very impressive scoring within a week of the release Hope one of you guys in the 14M club can record a replay, I'd love to have a reference run for high-level play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO-5RLleOX0 - Stages 1-3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw0rehDPIfY - Stages 4-6

There's part 1 of a 14.5 million run I recorded earlier today. The video quality isn't that great I have one of the most ridiculously fluky dodges on the stage 4 boss as I fly directly in to his fist as he punches me, yet come out unscathed.

EDIT:
My router crapped out while uploading part 2 so it could be a while before it's up.
EDITEDIT:
Both parts are up now.

What are the requirements to unlock all 60 achivements including the two "secret" ones (as listed in the Strainia achivement list)?

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Arrival at the End (10) Cleared the game on "HARD" or "EXPERT".
Cleaning Up Space Debris (20) Cleared Mission 4 without releasing the booster.
Court Martial (20) Cleared the game after failing all of the defense and assault missions.
Fireworks Craftsman (20) Armed all weapon slots with Lv.2 rockets.
Mission Completer (20) Cleared the game after successfully completing all of the defense and assault missions.
Perfect Conquest: EXPERT (10) Cleared the game on "EXPERT" without continuing.
Perfect Conquest: HARD (10) Cleared the game on "HARD" without continuing.
Perfect Conquest: NORMAL (10) Cleared the game on "NORMAL" without continuing.
Straightism (20) Armed all weapon slots with lasers.
Three Sword Style (20) Armed all weapon slots with swords.
Weapon Master (20) Earned 10-dan for all weapons.
Why'd You Go? (20) Hit the cancel button within 5 seconds of the start of the credits.

I just took that from gamefaqs.com. I have no idea which ones are secret.

[TodayIsForgotten]

Arrival at the End (10) Cleared the game on "HARD" or "EXPERT".
Cleaning Up Space Debris (20) Cleared Mission 4 without releasing the booster.
Court Martial (20) Cleared the game after failing all of the defense and assault missions.
Fireworks Craftsman (20) Armed all weapon slots with Lv.2 rockets.
Mission Completer (20) Cleared the game after successfully completing all of the defense and assault missions.
Perfect Conquest: EXPERT (10) Cleared the game on "EXPERT" without continuing.
Perfect Conquest: HARD (10) Cleared the game on "HARD" without continuing.
Perfect Conquest: NORMAL (10) Cleared the game on "NORMAL" without continuing.
Straightism (20) Armed all weapon slots with lasers.
Three Sword Style (20) Armed all weapon slots with swords.
Weapon Master (20) Earned 10-dan for all weapons.
Why'd You Go? (20) Hit the cancel button within 5 seconds of the start of the credits.
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I just took that from gamefaqs.com. I have no idea which ones are secret.

Cleaning up
Three Sword Style
Straightism
Fireworks Craftman

Think i'll play one go with all weapons to 1 dan to join the 14m club. I just dont see it possible to 10-dan the vulcan at this time. I had it up to 3 or 4 dan going into 5. No way 2 lvl two vulcans are going to beat the 6th boss in 3 minutes and get 3-5 dan. It will be a time out and no powerup or does a weapon like rocket or laser carry it enough to where it will upgrade...dumb achievement.

[antares]

Thanks for the videos MMM!

How do you guys beat the 7th boss? It's easy to dodge his attacks until time runs out but beating him is a completely different matter...

Also I encountered a nice glitch once in training mode. I accidently crashed into the 7th boss while he had full energy and he dropped one of his swords. I picked it up and slashed him, the whole fight took about 5 seconds. Sadly I wasn't able to replicate this.

One more question about the end bonus: So it's one million for each weapon that you powered up to 1 dan. But does it get more if you power it up even higher? Like 10 millions for 10 dan?

[Klatrymadon]

By "defense and assault missions", presumably it's referring to the stages that point out targets for you to attack and defend? If that's the case, how do I keep it from saying "Target Lost" just after I take out the two golden robots on stage 6?

[antares]

Just watched your run twice MMM. Great playing and some nice strategies to be learned here and there.
I love how you get into the 4th boss' face right after the start of the fight

By "defense and assault missions", presumably it's referring to the stages that point out targets for you to attack and defend? If that's the case, how do I keep it from saying "Target Lost" just after I take out the two golden robots on stage 6?

I don't think that's possible. It means the enemies have lost their target imo.

[Klatrymadon]

I guess you're right - nothing I do in the preceding area seems to affect the outcome. Man, this game isn't very forthcoming with information regarding its gimmicks...

Just watched your videos, MMM. Top stuff! My boss strategies in the latter half of the game are exactly the same as yours. I was a little unnerved by this.