Hardest boss

[TVG]

Let's not turn this into an autofire debate topic. Cave games have autofire by default since forever.

Mushi is different as people hacked the circuits of the PCB to get precise frequencies beneficial for scoring. In fact the PS2 versions tries to replicate that behavior with adjustable autofire rates. With those frequencies+tapping the no-autofire button it was possible to down some bosses quickly or bypass some patterns, which was vital in ultra mode, especially for the TLB. Back when I was interested in the game (which is a long time ago) nobody had beaten the TLB without autofire hacks. I'm just wondering if someone did it since.

I think that's the hardest boss in a non doujin shmup.

Anyway it seems everyone forgot about the original post which compares r-type to modern bullet hell games. Which is basically comparing apples and oranges. I'm gonna pretend I forgot it too.

[saucykobold]

I never noticed that before. But that doesn't really help much, if you're over the missile select then you're only closer to the main guns, and have less time to escape from being shot in the face. And if it brings the arms forward, then they are conveniently over said missile select and you'll crash .

Friendly counterargument

In addition to nullifying the arm lasers, this strat lets you end the fight really quickly (note the option placement). I'm now positive that the main laser volleys come at set times; you can memorize and take advantage of the brief lulls in firing. The hands will get uncomfortably close, but this beats having to dodge massive hitbox lasers for a minute.

You could always try to hide and time that bastard out.



OH WAIT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

That entrapment attack is hilarious. It's the sort of cheap death you'd expect to find in a Space Quest game or a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

[Seahawk]

Friendly counterargument

In addition to nullifying the arm lasers, this strat lets you end the fight really quickly (note the option placement). I'm now positive that the main laser volleys come at set times; you can memorize and take advantage of the brief lulls in firing. The hands will get uncomfortably close, but this beats having to dodge massive hitbox lasers for a minute.

Dude, weak.........I spent a whole year doing it wrong . Ah well, at least I beat it so I don't have to do it ever again .

That entrapment attack is hilarious. It's the sort of cheap death you'd expect to find in a Space Quest game or a Choose Your Own Adventure book.

Maybe someone should develop a text adventure or a Shadowgate type of game with a shmup theme .

BOSS APPROACHING. WHAT DO YOU DO?
>ATTACK FROM ABOVE
YOU HAVE RUN OUT OF TORCHES.
YOU CAN NO LONGER SEE YOUR CONTROL PANEL.
YOU ACCIDENTLY PRESS THE SELF DESTRUCT BUTTON.
YOU ARE DEAD. INSERT COIN TO CONTINUE.

[Bananamatic]

HARDEST BOSS EVER

[BIL]

^By that standard, I think this guy is the HARDEST EVER. It's killin' him! The guy is crying blood!

[renardqueenston]

not gonna lie, when i see this topic i just think "THE MOST HARDCORE BOSS" and immediately think of how badass every boss in Contra Hard Corps is. surely there is no definitive "hardest boss" but instead a definitive "MOST HARDCORE BOSS"

[EllertMichael]

I'd love to see someone take the last boss of Verytex head on. I have my doubts that it can actually be done...
I could only beat it using the top corner exploit (which to my credit I figured out on my own)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgW5PwzQxBg#t=7m04s

[Sumez]

^By that standard, I think this guy is the HARDEST EVER. It's killin' him! The guy is crying blood!

I wanted to say that I love Gynoug and the Cho Aniki games, but that sort of gives the "wrong impression".

[BIL]

Yeah, most of Gynoug's art is actually nowhere near that awesome. :[

[Sumez]

The general problem with Gynoug is all the time between bosses. Those enemies are completely uninspired and the stages drag on forever. Convert the game to a boss run, and it would instantly be a way better game for the visuals alone.

<- I don't even want to know what it is that guy is throwing at me



Cave should hire the guy who did the art for these games, if only for one single retardedly absurd game.

[BIL]

Agreed - the regular enemies are laughable, and the stages themselves aren't all that great either. Most of the bosses, like the ones already posted, are show-stoppingly gruesome and anguished-looking. My favourite is
the "fossilised foetus" last one, with its heavenly backdrop.



I've long imagined an Undead Line-styled vert featuring Valtiel from Silent Hill 3 scrambling about filthy stone floors taking down popcorn waves of SH3-esque gristle beasts, before confronting unspeakable boss monstrosities like good ol' Gynoug Dickman up there!

[Sumez]

I think we hit an untapped potential here fit for the "armchair developer" thread. There just aren't enough macabre/horror themed shoot'em ups out there.

[Estebang]

For the record, Gynoug had the same sprite artist as the Cho Aniki games. Not surprising at all.

[LeeVanCleef]

I'd love to see someone take the last boss of Verytex head on. I have my doubts that it can actually be done...
I could only beat it using the top corner exploit (which to my credit I figured out on my own)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgW5PwzQxBg#t=7m04s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHbILTB ... re=related

[GrimoreLibrarian]

Already mentioned but that fucking mustache!

[Bananamatic]

wait, were you playing with invincibility on? also I'd love to see someone beat Gigafacer without bombs or missing

[BPzeBanshee]

wait, were you playing with invincibility on? also I'd love to see someone beat Gigafacer without bombs or missing

Try looking around Kaiser's YouTube page, I know he was having a crack at it some time ago and while I dont think he did it he might've linked to someone who did.

[EllertMichael]

I'd love to see someone take the last boss of Verytex head on. I have my doubts that it can actually be done...
I could only beat it using the top corner exploit (which to my credit I figured out on my own)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgW5PwzQxBg#t=7m04s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHbILTB ... re=related

they made it look so easy...

[esreveR]

The Real Battle Phase 2 "fake" boss is one of the most aggravating baddies I've ever faced. The one attack with the four spinning bullet streams and loads of aimed destructible bullet spreads have got to be one of the most classic examples of how destructible bullets can actually be dangerous. And how!

In other news Black Heart Mk-II makes me rage hard as well, but I have a hard enough time reaching the boss in the first place that I can't really say much about why he does. Ignorance is sort of blissful, you know.

[BPzeBanshee]

For my serious input, I gotta say it's GwangeDash's TLB, M.A.D. When not using Hibachi v1 against it the damn thing's impossible. No joke.
Oh, and forget Maniac and Death Label.

[Voxbox]

Dimahoo's final boss is one of the biggest assholes around.

I'm ready to agree, though I've never seen it, because the fift boss would be the second biggest asshole around.
The game just ends there...

[Rex Cavalier]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMu-NzNjNOo

Hardest boss that i created in fraxy

[Mills]

Are we talking hardest boss skillfully done, or using a specific pattern of technique, or just blatently hard beyond handeye skill level?

[Illyrian]

Am I right in thinking then that no-one around here thinks Zatsuza is the hardest boss?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHqN_fH2S7k

[ChainsawGuitarSP]

I'd love to see someone take the last boss of Verytex head on. I have my doubts that it can actually be done...
I could only beat it using the top corner exploit (which to my credit I figured out on my own)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgW5PwzQxBg#t=7m04s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHbILTB ... re=related

they made it look so easy...

Spoiler: this guy cheats. Check out his other Youtube runs. All 1000+ of them are perfect runs. Some of them even have invincibility on when he doesn't feel like bothering with tool assistance.

[the.borg]

Am I right in thinking then that no-one around here thinks Zatsuza is the hardest boss?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHqN_fH2S7k

Oh well, and I thought Daifukkatsu's Taisabachi and Hibachi were already much too hard

[Sasupoika]

IIRC Zatsuza has already been 2-missed ( since you can glitch the opener and some other attacks, ha ha ) . Sure, hard, but I am pretty sure you can find harder from somewhere else.

[Mills]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMu-NzNjNOo

Hardest boss that i created in fraxy

Some impressive waves but some that seems ridiculous.

[Zengeku3]

Cirno of course. Way too many bullets moving way too fast in fiendish patterns. A really difficult boss.
Other than that I'd give a clichéed answer and say Mushi Futari Ultra Larsa. Followed up by DOJ Hibachi.
Evacaneer Doom should be mentioned too but it wouldn't be my pick since it has one attack I can do unlike the others.

Gigafacer anyone? That thing is so evil it makes superplayers die 2 times.

Bah, that's only because HFD hasn't played it.
Its odd how nobody performs well on that thing. Its not like its easy or anything but the projectile count is pretty low and they aren't that fast either. Given that there is people who can dodge DFK Hibachi's final attack properly, I'd say its just Dimahoo that doesn't have enough attention.

[cj iwakura]

I wonder if anyone can clear Tsukiko's final form from Shikigami 3 without dying.
She has an AOE scream that's an instant kill.