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[Skykid]

Tarantino is already shit.

I can't think of anything except

Really? You hate Boondock Saints yet you think someone hating Tarantino is "facepalm worthy"? The guy is a hack and deserves far too much credit for his films comprised of "references" and awful, verbose dialogue about nonsense.

There is a gulf difference in the quality of filmmaking between Boondock Saints and anything Tarantino has ever turned out. I recognise talent and give credit where it's due.

If you want to rag on a director who's given more credit than he's worth, Tarantino's counterpart Robert Rodriguez is a much more worthy target.

[drauch]

There is a gulf difference in the quality of filmmaking between Boondock Saints and anything Tarantino has ever turned out. I recognise talent and give credit where it's due.

If you want to recognize talent, try recognizing the hundreds of films that make up Tarantino's dialogue, characters, musical scores, camera blocking, and everything in between. Those films are talent. Not his amalgamation of films sewn together for the contemporary youth.

If you want to rag on a director who's given more credit than he's worth, Tarantino's counterpart Robert Rodriguez is a much more worthy target.

Not really. Rodriguez gets a lot of credit, but not to the ridiculous point of worship that Tarainto receives. El Mariachi is a decent film, and that's about it. At least Rodriguez isn't totally full of himself, making children's films like Shark Girl VS Lava Boy or whatever for "his" kids (or profit.)

They are both in the "hack pack" for all I'm concerned, along with their buddy Eli Roth. At least Roth makes somewhat original films, albeit awful ones, at that.

[speedlolita]

People hate Tarentino to be edgy and cool. I guess though taste differ. I like good things myself, and apart from Jackie Brown all of his work is top notch.

Kill Bill (1&2) being my favourite films ever probably, and Inglorious Bastards having me applauding at the end. Great stuff, not to mention Pulp Fiction.

Cinematic orgasm.

[CMoon]

Although not liking Tarentino might be edgy and cool, I'm neither edgy nor cool and don't like tarentino. What gives?

I'm with Drauch in that Tarentino does rely a lot on genre films, and if you're already familiar with that body of work, his films often seem like little more than homages. That said, I rather enjoyed Inglorious Bastards for what it was. I just don't think he's a great director.

Hope we can not crap up this whole thread discussing Tarentino. I'd rather find a film Skykid hasn't seen and spend ten pages egging him on about not watching it. It's more fun (to compute).

[drauch]

People hate Tarentino to be edgy and cool.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we are all 12 here and should all think exactly the same, especially if a large majority likes a film maker or a particular item. I guess it's "edgy and cool" to not believe in God, or to not enjoy pizza, or for one to not like wearing socks. Okay, fascist.

If you like Tarantino, then so be it; I'm not going to judge you on your film taste, because that's all relative and what-not. I'm sorry, but when a director smashes together The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh, The Searchers, Lady Snowblood, Navajo Joe, and a billion other fantastic films into a hodge-podge of pop-culture kewl cinema it pisses me off. Along with video games, cinema has always been a large part of my life, and Tarantino makes a mockery of the films I love. So instead of people giving a damn about movies like Thriller: A Cruel Picture with Christina Lindberg or Sex & Fury with Reiko Ike, I have to hear about mediocre actress Uma Thurman dispatching a bunch of dudes with Green Hornet masks in a scene from Fist of Fury.

Edgy and cool? I'm really beyond words. I could debate my hatred for Tarantino and his "cinema of cool" all day. If anyone wants to make a separate thread, then so be it, but I've made my point and I'm done here. I'm gonna go back to hating things that other people like now. Follow the flock, step in shit.

[charlie chong]

I agree with the tarantino haters.. his films try so hard to be cool BUT THEY SUCK
THE DIALOGUE OMG CRINGE.the action scenes are ok i guess if they weren't stolen from other films.
ALSO TIM ROTH'S BRITISH ACCENT IN RESERVOIR DOGS TERRIBLE

[charlie chong]

since when was being a film geek edgy or cool. i've found it mostly nathan barley types who are into crap like tarantino these guys usually pretend to know a lot about films but if you sat them down with a real exploitation/grindhouse film they would be bored after 5 minutes

[Skykid]

You people are blind. It's such a stupid argument it's the first one I don't think I can be bothered to have.

[SuperPang]

Tarantino is probably the greatest director of our generation you plums.

[EinhanderZwei]

since when was being a film geek edgy or cool. i've found it mostly nathan barley types who are into crap like tarantino these guys usually pretend to know a lot about films but if you sat them down with a real exploitation/grindhouse film they would be bored after 5 minutes

This

[DEL]

drauch wrote;

At least Roth makes somewhat original films, albeit awful ones, at that

I don't find Hostel 1 & 2 awful at all. I named my account after it and even made a pilgrimage to Bratislava and went torture-dungeon hunting.

ALSO TIM ROTH'S BRITISH ACCENT IN RESERVOIR DOGS TERRIBLE

You're being ironic, right?
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Tarantino can direct. He's a darksonofabitch, but he can definitely direct.

[Skykid]

Tarantino can direct. He's a darksonofabitch, but he can definitely direct.

Of course he can. This Tarantino criticism is nothing but witless waffle.

Half the time people walk around promoting films and directors who don't know their ass from their elbow, it beggars belief that people actually turn on the one that actually deserves praise.

[drauch]

This Tarantino criticism is nothing but witless waffle.

How is it? Because someone disagrees with you? Care to add anything to this conversation instead of just whining that someone doesn't like someone you do?

Half the time people walk around promoting films and directors who don't know their ass from their elbow, it beggars belief that people actually turn on the one that actually deserves praise.

What are you talking about? Give some examples, because right now you are talking "nothing but witless waffle". Why does he deserve this praise that you hold so high and mighty? Who are these other directors that can't direct, yet get this praise you talk about?

Tarantino can direct, sure, it's just a shame he takes it all from other films.

[drauch]

You people are blind. It's such a stupid argument it's the first one I don't think I can be bothered to have.

Why?

[Skykid]

This Tarantino criticism is nothing but witless waffle.

How is it? Because someone disagrees with you? Care to add anything to this conversation instead of just whining that someone doesn't like someone you do?

Nope, and here's why:

It's such a stupid argument it's the first one I don't think I can be bothered to have.

[emphatic]

I watched Black Swan tonight. Loved it, so 5/5 from me. And yes, Boondock Saints is crap (I actually got mad watching it), you should all see Twin Town instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS8_APv-ZrU

And Tarantino's directing is top notch, much better than his writing IMHO. I think he improves on the "source material" every time. I'm not a big fan of Reservoir Dogs though.

[drauch]

This Tarantino criticism is nothing but witless waffle.

How is it? Because someone disagrees with you? Care to add anything to this conversation instead of just whining that someone doesn't like someone you do?

Nope, and here's why:

It's such a stupid argument it's the first one I don't think I can be bothered to have.

I hate you.

[jonny5]

Hate all you want, Boondock Saints is one of those films I can watch over and over! I think it's mostly because it was all filmed in Toronto, so watching it is trippy because I recognize every location in the film.
Rocco was great.

I think it's a pretty good movie. It's not brilliant or anything, but it's a fun ride.

What exactly is so bad about it?

Seriously, dude jumped off a 5 story building with a toilet, dusted a guy, and walked away from it! BADASS!

As for Tarantino, I think sometimes he tries too hard, but he makes entertaining films.

I watched the first 20 minutes of Predator last night. I fell asleep.

Although, I actually woke up for the "GET TO THE CHOPPA" and laughed before falling back asleep.

Looked pretty good in HD on netflix.

[Acid King]

I'm with Drauch in that Tarentino does rely a lot on genre films, and if you're already familiar with that body of work, his films often seem like little more than homages.

I don't really see the issue with this. The Coens' have abused the conventions of the noir for years and won an Academy award for a script to a movie that was made probably 100+ times between 1940 and 1950. I'm not about to bitch about how no one cares about movies like the Post Man Always Rings Twice because the Coens still make good movies. Execution is what matters in the end and Tarantino, despite wearing his influences on his sleeve, makes good movies.

[CMoon]

Seriously calling an end to this Tarentino BS before it cripples the thread.

Watched the 'Red Star' episode of World at War which is admittedly not a movie, but is probably one of the most moving pieces of documentary I've ever seen. If you really want to see a person cover their face not in shame, horror, or fear, but rather because the world is unacceptably worse than any god of kindness could allow, this is the one hour of war documentary you must see. The stalingrad documentary which came earlier was shocking enough, but here it is hard not to feel the same sorrow as when watching Grave of Fireflies.

(Son to Father…)
Do not call me, father. Do not seek me.
Do not call me. Do not wish me back.
We’re on a route unchartered, fire and blood erase our track.
On we fly on wings of thunder, never more to sheathe our swords.
All of us in battle fallen – not to be brought back by words.

Will there be a rendezvous? I know not. I only know we still must fight.
We are sand grains in infinity, never to meet, nevermore to see light.

(Father to son…)
Farewell then my son. Farewell then my conscience.
Farewell my youth, my solace, my one and my only.

Let this farewell be the end of the story,
A solitude vast in which none is more lonely,
In which you remained barred forever
From light, from air, with your death pains untold.
Untold and unsoothed, never to be resurrected.
Forever and ever an 18 year old.

Farewell then.
No trains ever come from those regions,
Unscheduled and scheduled.
No aeroplanes fly there.

Farewell then my son,
For no miracles happen, as in this world
Dreams do not come true.

Farewell.
I will dream of you still as a baby,
Treading the earth with little strong toes,
The earth where already so many lie buried.

This song to my son, then, is come to its close.

[Skykid]

Watched The Kite Runner last night. It was an interesting look at Afghanistan before the communists, the Taliban and the US occupation (those poor folk have had a shitty thirty years), and I liked the story - but it was a watchable movie rather than a great one. I'm sure the book is many times better. I don't think the Director got as much out of the material as he could have done and was a little limp wristed for the most part. Mind boggling is that the cast were generally good (the Dad especially) but the lead actor was just poor, inexpressive and vacant, and didn't bring anything to the movie. Sometimes I wonder if casting directors only look at faces.

[Shocky]

People hate Tarentino to be edgy and cool.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we are all 12 here and should all think exactly the same, especially if a large majority likes a film maker or a particular item. I guess it's "edgy and cool" to not believe in God, or to not enjoy pizza, or for one to not like wearing socks. Okay, fascist.

If you like Tarantino, then so be it; I'm not going to judge you on your film taste, because that's all relative and what-not. I'm sorry, but when a director smashes together The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh, The Searchers, Lady Snowblood, Navajo Joe, and a billion other fantastic films into a hodge-podge of pop-culture kewl cinema it pisses me off. Along with video games, cinema has always been a large part of my life, and Tarantino makes a mockery of the films I love. So instead of people giving a damn about movies like Thriller: A Cruel Picture with Christina Lindberg or Sex & Fury with Reiko Ike, I have to hear about mediocre actress Uma Thurman dispatching a bunch of dudes with Green Hornet masks in a scene from Fist of Fury.

Edgy and cool? I'm really beyond words. I could debate my hatred for Tarantino and his "cinema of cool" all day. If anyone wants to make a separate thread, then so be it, but I've made my point and I'm done here. I'm gonna go back to hating things that other people like now. Follow the flock, step in shit.

Don't get too offended, but you sound exactly like a grumpy elitist who's offended by having "his" exclusive stuff taken from him and made available to the public? "You weren't there, man, you don't know, man..." Does it hurt so much that you can't see the obvious merits of say, Kill Bill vol.1? You claim that Tarantino makes a "mockery" of your favorite films.. how so? I have watched all that stuff too, and see QT's films in a totally different light. No mockery, just tributes and captivating stories based on deep knowledge and understanding of genre films. Kill Bill vol.1 is the best amalgam that could ever be born from its ingredients. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and trying to identify the multitude of movie references. It's not entirely perfect; he tried to get some blaxploitation vibe going on too hastily, and cramming Sonny Chiba into the film was somewhat awkward.

The truth is that Tarantino is a genius at recycling the greatest moments and ideas of exploitation cinema. His style is almost impeccable (though casting Brad Pitt in IB = grave mistake), his ability to find and select music.. unrivaled. Most of all I like the guy as a movie fanatic, ranting about some forgotten films. As an actor he's getting worse. In Reservoir Dogs he was good and From Dusk Till Dawn is his best role by far. Other than that, pretty meh, but always interesting to see.

Opinions are opinions, but you're definitely wrong about one thing: You say that people don't give a damn about the films Tarantino "copies" - But I have witnessed younger Tarantino fans getting interested in the original films he takes influences from. They want to see more of this kind of stuff. Without Tarantino's promoting, most of them wouldn't know these films exist. He's doing a cool job.

P.S. Boondock Saints is ok! Not Tarantino-quality of course, but copycats seldom are..

P.P.S. Robert Rodriguez is over-rated. Machete was him trying to do the Tarantino trick and failing.

drauch wrote;

At least Roth makes somewhat original films, albeit awful ones, at that

I don't find Hostel 1 & 2 awful at all. I named my account after it and even made a pilgrimage to Bratislava and went torture-dungeon hunting.

Finally someone who recognizes Eli Roth's (immense) talent. When I first saw Cabin Fever, I wasn't expecting much (Roth was a nobody back then), but was very positively surprised and saw that there was someone behind it that doesn't settle for just the basics, but aims for the top. And Hostel 1-2 sure delivered... I can watch those again and again. Too bad he's not a particularly good actor - Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds revealed that. Still, it warms the heart see him making cameos in amusing thrash films like 2001 Maniacs or Piranha 3D.

I also made a pilgrimage to Bratislava because I was so impressed with Hostel. Didn't find any torture-dungeons or those horny babes though... just some place called McKebab. Before that I made another pilgrimage to a hostel in Amsterdam, and actually that was quite an experience, ending up in the same room with a violent criminal who kept drinking and trying to provoke a fight (and steal our stuff). After seeing Hostel 2, I went on a third pilgrimage, to Iceland, to visit the beautiful outdoor spa that can be seen in Hostel 2 (the scene where Lauren German falls asleep in the pool and wakes up with everybody gone). The place is called Blue Lagoon, near Reykjavik. It's a geothermal spa, and really nice experience. http://www.bluelagoon.com/Images/

[drauch]

People hate Tarentino to be edgy and cool.

Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we are all 12 here and should all think exactly the same, especially if a large majority likes a film maker or a particular item. I guess it's "edgy and cool" to not believe in God, or to not enjoy pizza, or for one to not like wearing socks. Okay, fascist.

If you like Tarantino, then so be it; I'm not going to judge you on your film taste, because that's all relative and what-not. I'm sorry, but when a director smashes together The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh, The Searchers, Lady Snowblood, Navajo Joe, and a billion other fantastic films into a hodge-podge of pop-culture kewl cinema it pisses me off. Along with video games, cinema has always been a large part of my life, and Tarantino makes a mockery of the films I love. So instead of people giving a damn about movies like Thriller: A Cruel Picture with Christina Lindberg or Sex & Fury with Reiko Ike, I have to hear about mediocre actress Uma Thurman dispatching a bunch of dudes with Green Hornet masks in a scene from Fist of Fury.

Edgy and cool? I'm really beyond words. I could debate my hatred for Tarantino and his "cinema of cool" all day. If anyone wants to make a separate thread, then so be it, but I've made my point and I'm done here. I'm gonna go back to hating things that other people like now. Follow the flock, step in shit.

Don't get too offended, but you sound exactly like a grumpy elitist who's offended by having "his" exclusive stuff taken from him and made available to the public? "You weren't there, man, you don't know, man..." Does it hurt so much that you can't see the obvious merits of say, Kill Bill vol.1? You claim that Tarantino makes a "mockery" of your favorite films.. how so? I have watched all that stuff too, and see QT's films in a totally different light. No mockery, just tributes and captivating stories based on deep knowledge and understanding of genre films. Kill Bill vol.1 is the best amalgam that could ever be born from its ingredients. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it and trying to identify the multitude of movie references. It's not entirely perfect; he tried to get some blaxploitation vibe going on too hastily, and cramming Sonny Chiba into the film was somewhat awkward.

The truth is that Tarantino is a genius at recycling the greatest moments and ideas of exploitation cinema. His style is almost impeccable (though casting Brad Pitt in IB = grave mistake), his ability to find and select music.. unrivaled. Most of all I like the guy as a movie fanatic, ranting about some forgotten films. As an actor he's getting worse. In Reservoir Dogs he was good and From Dusk Till Dawn is his best role by far. Other than that, pretty meh, but always interesting to see.

Opinions are opinions, but you're definitely wrong about one thing: You say that people don't give a damn about the films Tarantino "copies" - But I have witnessed younger Tarantino fans getting interested in the original films he takes influences from. They want to see more of this kind of stuff. Without Tarantino's promoting, most of them wouldn't know these films exist. He's doing a cool job.

P.S. Boondock Saints is ok! Not Tarantino-quality of course, but copycats seldom are..

P.P.S. Robert Rodriguez is over-rated. Machete was him trying to do the Tarantino trick and failing.

drauch wrote;

At least Roth makes somewhat original films, albeit awful ones, at that

I don't find Hostel 1 & 2 awful at all. I named my account after it and even made a pilgrimage to Bratislava and went torture-dungeon hunting.

Finally someone who recognizes Eli Roth's (immense) talent. When I first saw Cabin Fever, I wasn't expecting much (Roth was a nobody back then), but was very positively surprised and saw that there was someone behind it that doesn't settle for just the basics, but aims for the top. And Hostel 1-2 sure delivered... I can watch those again and again. Too bad he's not a particularly good actor - Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds revealed that. Still, it warms the heart see him making cameos in amusing thrash films like 2001 Maniacs or Piranha 3D.

I also made a pilgrimage to Bratislava because I was so impressed with Hostel. Didn't find any torture-dungeons or those horny babes though... just some place called McKebab. Before that I made another pilgrimage to a hostel in Amsterdam, and actually that was quite an experience, ending up in the same room with a violent criminal who kept drinking and trying to provoke a fight (and steal our stuff). After seeing Hostel 2, I went on a third pilgrimage, to Iceland, to visit the beautiful outdoor spa that can be seen in Hostel 2 (the scene where Lauren German falls asleep in the pool and wakes up with everybody gone). The place is called Blue Lagoon, near Reykjavik. It's a geothermal spa, and really nice experience. http://www.bluelagoon.com/Images/

Everything you just wrote I want to argue the hell out of, but I'm not in respect to the OP Cmoon's request to stop the Tarantino talk. I've had this argument for I don't know how many goddamn years now, but I keep itching the scab and opening back up the wound. Feel free to get a mod in here and move all of this talk into another thread and I'll continue all you want. Grumpy elitist? Yeah, I've always admitted that one, but you've got that wrong on why I hate him. Honestly, there is no point to argue anymore, because we obviously won't agree. It's all just going to boil down into opinions.

[CMoon]

*nods* It's gonna turn into me and acid king talking Citizen Kane. Cool I guess if you want to talk about whether certain methods/techniques are actually effective, but yeah, when boils into my opinion is better than yours, or your just trying to be cool by liking/hating this, really what's the point.

Been too tired/busy lately to watch any movies. Got Two-lane blacktop sitting on my desktop waiting to be watched.

[borislaw]

Finally I got something in the mail from netflix that I still wanted to watch the day it arrived and actually turned out to be a real good movie. The movie is Shadow of the Vampire. Dafoe's transformation into vampire-posing-as-actor-playing-a-vampire was one of the best performances I've ever seen. I stopped about 15 minutes into Shadow... and decided to re-watch the original Nosferatu, although it probably wasn't necessary. The best thing about the movie, and what I really didn't expect was how funny it was. I wonder how they sold this movie in advertisements, cause its kindof part horror, part comedic spoof, part drama.

Anyone else seen this movie? Care to discuss it / debate it merits / analyze it?

[neorichieb1971]

Skykid,

Its ok to have an opinion, but its not ok to force an opinion.

I'm watching more popcorn junk next week.. Battle LA

[charlie chong]

drauch wrote;

At least Roth makes somewhat original films, albeit awful ones, at that

I don't find Hostel 1 & 2 awful at all. I named my account after it and even made a pilgrimage to Bratislava and went torture-dungeon hunting.

ALSO TIM ROTH'S BRITISH ACCENT IN RESERVOIR DOGS TERRIBLE

You're being ironic, right?
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Tarantino can direct. He's a darksonofabitch, but he can definitely direct.

well it would be ironic except i'm pretty sure that tim roth's character is MEANT to be american. instead he speaks this half english/yank hybrid that destroyed the movie.the fact he considers himself a method actor just makes it even more funny.

[charlie chong]

Skykid,

Its ok to have an opinion, but its not ok to force an opinion.

I think ritchie hit the nail on the head.It is not skykids opinions that rub people the wrong way but the way he presents them as fact whereas the more rounded posters on this thread can look at other peoples opinions objectively.

[charlie chong]

28.jonestown.documentary on jim jones and the ensuing madness of jonestown.never delved into this guy before so very interesting.
29.deathdream aka dead of night .pretty good post vietnam zombie film with a bit of brains behind it.
29.asylum .documentary on a looney bin.some cool funny characters contained within.
30.q the winged serpent.very enjoyable stop motion monster movie..great cityscape shots and general vibes.the main character is a likeable rogue
31.gargoyles..blech even cornell wilde and stan winston effects couldn't save this from inducing boredom.
32.commercial breaks (doc about ocean and imagine)lots of the infamous bandersnatch footage and geeky looking programmers who look about 15.
february
33.terror in beverly hills.another terrible awesomely bad movie from a.i.p
34.virgin school.documentary a bout a nerd who pays grannies to teach him about sex and eventually lose his virginity with one of them.this was very weird but mebbes set up ??.
35.hardcore .documentary a bout a uk wifie trying to get into the pron industry.she gets a shock when she casts for max hardcore
36.code of silence.chuck norris does what he does best.ARSE KICKING
37.observe and report. a delusional bipolar mall security guard and a guest spot from kenny powers make this a very entertaining film for me.
38.every which way but loose.clint eastwood AND a orangutan NEVER gets old
39.any which way you can ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
40.satanis.documentary on the church of satan.they definitely have different occultist ideas to me.
41.simon king of the witches.awesome occulty counterculture piece. one of my favourites vibe and ideawise.
42.parents.very well shot with a very unsettling vibe.file next to people under the stairs for your weird cannibal family type movies.
43.i'm gonna git you sucker.not as funny as i'd been led to believe it would be..dissapointing
44.psyched by the 4d witch.visually trippy and very incoherent psychedelic mess.needs substances to aid viewing.
45.science of john wyndham documentary.one of my fave authors so nice to hear a bit of backstory.
46.smokey and the bandit 3.cmoon reminded me to rewatch this braindead sequel.jackie gleason is the DON. "i don't know how you could come from my loins son.when i see your momma i'm gonna smack her in the mouth" lolz
47.jersey documentary.interesting period piece on the jersey shore circa 1985
48.village of the damned.very watchable whyndham adaption.
49.smokey and the bandit. just as enjoyable as when i first watched it all them years ago.second highest grossing film of the year it was released no less.
50.smokey and the bandit 2 the worst smokey and the bandit.jackie gleason still made me laugh tho
51.videodrome composite version .one of my favourite films ever with some cool alternate footage i'd never seen.
52.thunderbolt and lightfoot. enjoyable 70s bank robbery fare with clint eastwood ,jeff bridges and GARY BUSEY!!

[undamned]

Just watched "I Am Number 4" w/ the wife (using a gift card I got for my birthday ) over the weekend. It was recommended by a friend, and I'd never even seen a trailer for it, so I knew almost nothing about it other than "It's a scifi/action movie about a guy hiding on earth." Towards the middle I was wondering if it was turning into some stupid highschool love story, but when it was over, I think that portion of the movie was useful for character development (esp. of the main character's "nerdy" companion). Overall, I enjoyed it. Nothing really deep, but the presentation was fair and some of the effects were pretty cool (esp. being as we watched it in an IMAX theatre, which I didn't realize made such a difference).
-ud