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anybody know any shmups that are just so outrageously bad that they wrap right back around to being top-tier?

right from the get-go i've gotta put my vote in for Twin Eagle II: The Rescue Mission. hilarious damn game. the trucks aimlessly skittering around, the wacky controls, the weird graphics and funny voiceovers. it's just too much!
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Touhou
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Dimahoo anyone
Treasurance wrote:Touhou
So bad it's beyond bad
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Bananamatic wrote:Dimahoo anyone
Treasurance wrote:Touhou
So bad it's beyond bad
this thread didn't take long to go to hell :lol: i'm a huge dimahoo fan, and i'm pretty sure others on here would agree that it's certainly not bad, just not to your taste, maybe

not trying to open a can of worms with this thread, trying to find some shooters that are legitimately so terrible that they are enjoyable and funny. laugh-out-loud while you play, "what the hell is that!" type stuff, like... Explosive Breaker. "what the hell is that! those stock photos are firing at me!" that kind of stuff. like a bad horror movie that you laugh throughout and end up come out having a great time. let's not have a thread of "ugh this is shitty i hate it!" here
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Dimahoo has a ton of flaws, from the annoying set collecting to some near impossible boss attacks.
You know something is wrong when a superplayer bombs certain patterns without even attempting to dodge.

I still like it though, almost managed to 1cc it once. Which reminds me of the awfully designed final boss.

FACT: Dimahoo is in a Japanese kusoge list.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZOCThePJQ

I'm surprised you're not playing some hideous basketball mascot animal.
Why the hell did they screw up the music for the US version this bad?
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Battle Garegga
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Deathsmiles II X

So bad it's good. It's literally the only Cave game that I bother playing when I go to the arcade.
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Bananamatic wrote:Dimahoo has a ton of flaws, from the annoying set collecting to some near impossible boss attacks.
You know something is wrong when a superplayer bombs certain patterns without even attempting to dodge.

I still like it though, almost managed to 1cc it once. Which reminds me of the awfully designed final boss.
flaws =/= so bad it's good. you gotta understand when i say "so bad it's good" i mean stuff like Twin Eagle II or Explosive Breaker. Dimahoo is certainly not on that level of "oh wow, what am i playing". i wouldn't say having to bomb patterns means something is wrong, either. i love gigafacer, especially the forward-and-rewind bullet attack, it's so ridiculous! i'd say Dimahoo is more "over the top" than it is "so bad it's good".
Jockel wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZOCThePJQ

I'm surprised you're not playing some hideous basketball mascot animal.
Why the hell did they screw up the music for the US version this bad?
this is probably the funniest localization ever. the first time i booted up bio metal in an emulator i almost choked on my drink when i heard 2 unlimited playing. talk about coming out of left field :lol:
Elixir wrote:Deathsmiles II X

So bad it's good. It's literally the only Cave game that I bother playing when I go to the arcade.
i'll have to agree on graphical qualities alone. some of the models are just... so, so awkward. they get laughs from me, anyways.
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Jets N Guns Gold. Such an absurd game, but loads of fun once you start blowing stuff up.
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i was just about to post again with that one myself! completely oddball... i think i like it? it's certainly not good, but it gets a smile out of me.
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renardqueenston wrote:
i was just about to post again with that one myself! completely oddball... i think i like it? it's certainly not good, but it gets a smile out of me.
I agree , its fun but not amazing.
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You know there's a very similar thread to this right next door.
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oh and Ketsui Death Label of course
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I don't understand people not digging Dimahoo. Are they not great enough?
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Elixir wrote:Deathsmiles II X

So bad it's good. It's literally the only Cave game that I bother playing when I go to the arcade.
In one of the countless arcades that New Zealand has to offer?
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Skykid wrote:You know there's a very similar thread to this right next door.
but that's "shmup stinkers" - legitimately bad and boring games. these are games that are so bad that they're fun. huge difference! didn't want to clutter your thread of "this game sucks!" with "this game is hilarious", figured you'd want to keep it on-topic :)
evil_ash_xero wrote:I don't understand people not digging Dimahoo. Are they not great enough?
must be the case!
Treasurance wrote:oh and Ketsui Death Label of course
this thread is bringing out the "trying too hard" in people today!
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I think dimahoo scoring system is almost universally hated. It's not "so bad it's good", it's just a game that could have been great.

Before you reply, do you really want to learn how many levels to charge and where to release on which enemy at which time to make just the fucking right items appear arbitrarly with no clue whatsoever (and to make the rank skyrocket)?
There's a reason that there's not even a complete ST here, people just can't figure it out and can't bother, either.
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TVG wrote:Before you reply, do you really want to learn how many levels to charge and where to release on which enemy at which time to make just the fucking right items appear arbitrarly with no clue whatsoever (and to make the rank skyrocket)?
i legitimately enjoy the scoring now that i've gotten more into it :oops:

but that discussion isn't for this thread :)
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TVG wrote:I think dimahoo scoring system is almost universally hated. It's not "so bad it's good", it's just a game that could have been great.

Before you reply, do you really want to learn how many levels to charge and where to release on which enemy at which time to make just the fucking right items appear arbitrarly with no clue whatsoever (and to make the rank skyrocket)?
There's a reason that there's not even a complete ST here, people just can't figure it out and can't bother, either.
Doesn't explain the love for Garegga.
IGMO - Poorly emulated, never beaten.

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it's because Stab and Stomp
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renardqueenston wrote:
Skykid wrote:You know there's a very similar thread to this right next door.
but that's "shmup stinkers" - legitimately bad and boring games. these are games that are so bad that they're fun. huge difference! didn't want to clutter your thread of "this game sucks!" with "this game is hilarious", figured you'd want to keep it on-topic :)
Fair enough. Twin Eagle II gets my vote too then, it might be the ultimate great awful shmup. :wink:
Drum wrote:Doesn't explain the love for Garegga.
You know what Drum, you're viciously opinionated and I like that. Reminds me of me, and I give anyone props for standing by their guns and arguing a point (as long as it's done well.)

Sometimes you talk crap though. Garegga is actually vastly unloved, only those few who have persevered with it understand its brilliance. :)
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Naut wrote:Battle Garegga
Drum wrote:Doesn't explain the love for Garegga.
Skykid wrote:Sometimes you talk crap though. Garegga is actually vastly unloved, only those few who have persevered with it understand its brilliance. :)
No the game is complete shit, the rank is balls to the walls fucking stupid and "survival" is a joke at best, but for some reason people love this level of stupid so it wraps around to actually being fun to play. So bad that it's good.
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Skykid wrote:****** is actually vastly unloved, only those few who have persevered with it understand its brilliance. :)
Corrected for a universal law.

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Skykid wrote:
Drum wrote:Doesn't explain the love for Garegga.
You know what Drum, you're viciously opinionated and I like that. Reminds me of me, and I give anyone props for standing by their guns and arguing a point (as long as it's done well.)

Sometimes you talk crap though. Garegga is actually vastly unloved, only those few who have persevered with it understand its brilliance. :)
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... =+vote+all

Lot of love for the game.

EDIT: Not even hating, just think Garegga is a strange phenomenon.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtxf-NOmAo
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Jockel wrote:
Elixir wrote:Deathsmiles II X

So bad it's good. It's literally the only Cave game that I bother playing when I go to the arcade.
In one of the countless arcades that New Zealand has to offer?
Here's me walking through one of the countless arcades that New Zealand has to offer

Nobody got my joke I made with that post though. I'm disappointed.
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I think you can attach the "So Bad It's Good" label to Dimahoo. At least certain parts of it. I mean... just take a gander at that introduction. It's so cheesy, it's -awesome-.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eNBueH ... re=related

The game itself feels like quality to me, though. The announcer is over the top, the music rocks, the sound effects kick ass, etc. etc.

Regarding the topic, this is the only thing I can think of offhand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIyqcEDiDk
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First ones to possibly come to my mind were Hotdog Storm and Eight Forces.
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