Any Amiga Shmup Video Footage out there??...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:02 pm

I've seen at least one shmup video out there for just about every console or computer-even for the 1 shmup on the PC-FX, but I've never seen any replays of any Amiga shmups.

I most interested in seeing footage of Project-X, and Banshee, but if anyone knows of ANY Amiga shmup videos out there on the net, please let me know!

Thanks!!

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:05 am

I highly doubt it.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:20 am

ArrogantBastard wrote:I highly doubt it.

Same here, but it never hurts to ask. I just don't get it, though. The retro-core guy has captured gameplay from a PC-88, which is older then the Amiga, AFIK, and there's always the Amiga CD32 or CDTV from which one could capture footage. I've even checked dedicated Amiga sites, and...nothing.

And Amiga shmups are spoken off pretty highly in the Xenocide Files.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not bitter about it or anything, just confused.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:00 pm

amiga games suck. mostly programmed by ageing scandinavian hippies who are smoking/have smoked too much weed/crack. xenon II - i rest my case. poor replica of jap overhead shooters. the programmers dont seem to have much of a grasp of what makes the art of shmupping so great. sorry. but i doubt anybody could be arsed to play let alone film themselves playing most of these games.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:42 pm

DC906270 wrote:amiga games suck. mostly programmed by ageing scandinavian hippies who are smoking/have smoked too much weed/crack. xenon II - i rest my case. poor replica of jap overhead shooters. the programmers dont seem to have much of a grasp of what makes the art of shmupping so great. sorry. but i doubt anybody could be arsed to play let alone film themselves playing most of these games.

Eh? What about Project X and Banshee? Those are pretty welll spoken of, are the not? And so, AFIK, are former Amiga game developers, like Team 17, and Core.

Sly Cherry Chunks · Post by **Sly Cherry Chunks** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:18 pm

DC906270 wrote:amiga games suck. mostly programmed by ageing scandinavian hippies who are smoking/have smoked too much weed/crack. xenon II - i rest my case. poor replica of jap overhead shooters. the programmers dont seem to have much of a grasp of what makes the art of shmupping so great. sorry. but i doubt anybody could be arsed to play let alone film themselves playing most of these games.

visuatrox · Post by **visuatrox** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:19 pm

DC906270 wrote:amiga games suck.

What!, there is a massive amount of games on the Amiga and just flat out saying they suck just makes no sense to me. While European shooters are different to Japanese, that does not necessary make them bad.

Have you played Disposable Hero, Battle Squadron, Banshee, Apidya, Project X, Denaris, X-Out and Silkworm? The only general problem with Amiga games are the horrible floppy disk loading times, other than that there should be something on the system for anyone.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:36 am

SWIV and Hybris were my favorite shooters on the Amiga.

Very respectible games. I Didn't mind floppy's.. I didn't know it at the time but the one button joysticks sucked.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:34 am

visuatrox wrote:
DC906270 wrote:amiga games suck.
What!, there is a massive amount of games on the Amiga and just flat out saying they suck just makes no sense to me. While European shooters are different to Japanese, that does not necessary make them bad.

Have you played Disposable Hero, Battle Squadron, Banshee, Apidya, Project X, Denaris, X-Out and Silkworm? The only general problem with Amiga games are the horrible floppy disk loading times, other than that there should be something on the system for anyone.

Yeah, saying "3DO games suck" would be pretty accurate, but Amiga games?!

I would love to see some in game footage of those Amiga shmups you mentioned-so, again, if anyone knows of any, please post a link or something.

I plan on getting a CD32; doesn't have all of those one's you listed, but it's got enough shmups, borderliners, and even a few rail shooters to satisfy me. Plus, even though it's tough to track down an NTSC CD32, once you do the games are region free, you select which region/language with a mouse you can use with this console.

iatneH · Post by **iatneH** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:51 am

A seller at my local flea market has a boxed Amiga CD32, although I haven't looked at the price...

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:08 am

DC906270 wrote:amiga games suck. mostly programmed by ageing scandinavian hippies who are smoking/have smoked too much weed/crack. xenon II - i rest my case. poor replica of jap overhead shooters. the programmers dont seem to have much of a grasp of what makes the art of shmupping so great. sorry. but i doubt anybody could be arsed to play let alone film themselves playing most of these games.

ahahahahahahaah

it290 · Post by **it290** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:02 am

iatneH - the CD32 is worth getting for one reason, and that is the fact that some guys have done massive compilations of quality Amiga games and converted them to run on the CD32. There aren't too many good CD32 games, but having a massive Amiga library easily playable on your TV is awesome. Not to mention the demo compilations that are great for ambiance.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:11 am

DC906270 wrote:amiga games suck. mostly programmed by ageing scandinavian hippies who are smoking/have smoked too much weed/crack. xenon II - i rest my case. poor replica of jap overhead shooters. the programmers dont seem to have much of a grasp of what makes the art of shmupping so great. sorry. but i doubt anybody could be arsed to play let alone film themselves playing most of these games.

They are "different" in style from Japanese shoot em ups but there really are some gems on the amiga shmupswise!

As mentioned there are: Hybris (glad someone else likes this one too

),
Battle Squadron, SWIV (Superior version on the Amiga), Project X, Apidya, Banshee, Atomic Robo Kid has a great conversion, X-out/Z-out, Pegasus, and many more.

And correct me if I am wrong, but most shoot em ups for Amiga were either from British or German descent (with some American, French and Scandinavian thrown in). Xenon II the game you mention is by the Bitmap Bros., which are a English company.

The Amiga demo scene is something different though, but has to be seen to be blieved/appreciated.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:37 am

You can see alot of the demos here -

http://www.spoonwizard.com/divx.php

They are technical demos, not shmups.

"State of the art" is very impressive for a 700kb/7mhz machine

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:56 pm

Regarding the region-free capability of the CD32, do you have to select the region, when playing a game, with an Amiga mouse, or can you just use the CD32's controller?

Yeah, there are plenty of discs of Amiga games that you can play on the Amiga CD32, but even without those, as previously mentioned, there are still plenty of shmups avaialble on the CD32. And keep in mind that the system can also play CDTV games; there's at least one CDTV shmup I know of, and both Turrican games got CDTV releases.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:31 pm

It's not really a question of region so much as it is selecting the correct video output. Some PAL games will run fine in NTSC, but the bottom of the screen will be cut off and the game will run too fast. Some PAL games got NTSC CD32 releases that were altered to run correctly in NTSC. You can select between PAL/NTSC by holding both mouse buttons when booting and going to the Early Startup Menu, but that won't help you if you're using a TV that can't sync to 50hz (which a 1080 or similar monitor will do fine). As far as I know, there is no way to switch without a mouse, although some cracked games will let you switch in the cracktro, and if you can edit the ISO of a game, you can insert a program into the startup-sequence to force the CD32 into the correct mode.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:15 pm

Ok, thanks for that info it290!