buy it from Play-Asia instead.
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Not really. Nintendo still sells decade old games on their console. Shooters are actually quite alive thanks to this. If everyone who was going to buy that just Dl'd it instead, that would still have an impact Of course I'd rather support a small company, but its the same shit.louisg wrote:Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.Paradigm wrote:Tigershark wrote:The fact is that downloading licenced software without paying for it via legitimate means is illegal.This. Take your moral crusade elsewhere you hypocritical cunts.Tigershark wrote:338,100 Spitfire 1-4 Mame
I understand that, but I'm tired of people getting on their high horse about it one minute, then thinking it's OK to bend the rules to suit themselves the next. Piracy is piracy.louisg wrote:Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.
Exactly.dunpeal2064 wrote:In my book, you should follow the laws you preach, not amend them to fit whatever you see as right.
This was gonna be my next point. Just because a game is region locked, you think this entitles you to pirate it? Ridiculous. This is the internet, Japanese 360's are readily available. Either open your wallet or shut the fuck up. You even have some dude in this thread arguing against Fast Striker being pirated, but then admitting he downloads CAVE games to a JTAG'ed 360... unbelievable hypocrisy.dunpeal2064 wrote:Especially on this site, where so many people are downloading cave games, and then using the excuse "Well, they region-locked it, and I don't like region locking, so stealing it is ok, even though this game is brand-spankin new"
Yeah! Like Guwange!louisg wrote: Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.
I think that's yet another example of humour/sarcasm not translating well in forum speak.Paradigm wrote:You even have some dude in this thread arguing against Fast Striker being pirated, but then admitting he downloads CAVE games to a JTAG'ed 360... unbelievable hypocrisy.
Zing!Wonderbanana wrote:Yeah! Like Guwange!louisg wrote: Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.![]()
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ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Yep, hands up.Paradigm wrote:Tigershark wrote:338,100 Spitfire 1-4 Mame![]()
I didn't offer any advice. I was under the impression that demonoid had gone totally private so therefore it would have had to have been two separate torrents. My mistake. Normally these things end up on BC or UG almost immediately but no-one has bothered as of yet.mjclark wrote: Doh! It's (probably) the same torrent with the same trackers but posted on two different sites to increase the potential traffic and thus strengthen the torrent.
But I really can't believe that people are now trying to give advice about how how make torrents more effective in this thread.
If this was getting funny before then it's got even funnier now
EVERY PERSON ALSO KEEPS IT ANYWAY. Depending on financial circumstances, morals etc virtually every piece of software that is 'tried' (please), is kept and used regardless. Don't suggest otherwise or try to take the high ground by pretending that you are one of the exceptions to the rule.stryc9 wrote:For example, I have downloaded software, like EVERY PERSON WITH AN INTERNET CONNECTION ON THE PLANET, the difference being that I simply want to check it out to see if it's any good first.
That was valid in 1993 when I was deciding to import some SNES JRPG on the strength of one magazine review. Now there are multiple sources, trailers, clips, opinions etc etc.Should we really rush blindly into an expensive Import purchase if it is questionable the game is any cop?
For shmups it's worse. Generally a game that gets highly praised, say GTA IV, is almost universally accepted. Yet a shmup can be almost perfect for most people, but it could have one little quirk in the scoring system and that's it rejected. Much fussier.For shooters, it's really kinda simple
I didn't read anything funny? The thread was never really about Fast Striker specifically, it could have been any uploaded recent release.@ MJclark: You made me laugh man. I love how this shit split off from Fast Striker
That explains it all(puffs on blunt)
You know why it isn't? Because you take it upon yourself to make a moral call for another person. "This act of pirating is ok, and this isn't. When I pirate an old game from a popular dev, it's ok, when he pirates a new release from an indie, it's not." That's hypocritical.louisg wrote:Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.
Matskat wrote:This neighborhood USED to be nice...until that family of emulators moved in across the street....
I specifically said games which do not have home versions after being out for decades, or games which are essentially abandoned. You don't see Radar Lock on Nintendo's service, for example, or the arm wrestling game. It's likely that Nintendo has no interest in bringing those to a home system. So, if you want to play them, at least to date, there are only two possibilities. And, if you aren't into PCBs, there is only one possibility. This is even more true for driving games, where to play them properly you would absolutely require a full cab.dunpeal2064 wrote:Not really. Nintendo still sells decade old games on their console. Shooters are actually quite alive thanks to this. If everyone who was going to buy that just Dl'd it instead, that would still have an impact Of course I'd rather support a small company, but its the same shit.louisg wrote: Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.
Yeah- that whole finger-pointing thing has never been a good way to gomoozooh wrote: Because you take it upon yourself to make a moral call for another person. "This act of pirating is ok, and this isn't. When I pirate an old game from a popular dev, it's ok, when he pirates a new release from an indie, it's not." That's hypocritical.
From what I can see, the members of this forum who were involved with MAME Ketsui are highly respected and it's generally agreed here thatlouisg wrote: Still, you can't really equate that with uploading Fast Striker, or MAME Ketsui at the exact time that Ketsui is released for the XBox.
I see your point. However, my point is, what gives you the right to pick and choose what illegal activities are and aren't allowed. Because of the way you feel about it? What if others don't agree? Thats what a law is for, and if you want to apply it, don't pick and choose what you can do, and then bash on others.louisg wrote:I specifically said games which do not have home versions after being out for decades, or games which are essentially abandoned. You don't see Radar Lock on Nintendo's service, for example, or the arm wrestling game. It's likely that Nintendo has no interest in bringing those to a home system. So, if you want to play them, at least to date, there are only two possibilities. And, if you aren't into PCBs, there is only one possibility. This is even more true for driving games, where to play them properly you would absolutely require a full cab.dunpeal2064 wrote:Not really. Nintendo still sells decade old games on their console. Shooters are actually quite alive thanks to this. If everyone who was going to buy that just Dl'd it instead, that would still have an impact Of course I'd rather support a small company, but its the same shit.louisg wrote: Downloading a decades out-of-print game that never had a home version is not quite the same as downloading a small production, still in print, aimed at a niche audience... I know that wasn't specified in the quote, but it really is a huge difference.
I'm not saying it's not copyright infringement. I'm saying that for certain games, there is only one realistic way for people to ever see them again, and that is to play them through MAME. Spitfire is likely one such game which will never see a commercial home release. Yes, there is a downside: this may discourage publishers from giving rare games a well-done home release (though considering how big these download services are, I doubt it). Still, you can't really equate that with uploading Fast Striker, or MAME Ketsui at the exact time that Ketsui is released for the XBox.