What [not shmup] game are you playing now?

[beyonder]

Super Street Fighter 4. That's basically all I play, fighting games and shmups. And Jenga, but that doesn't count.

[drunkninja24]

Been meaning to play my copy of DFK more these last few weeks, but I got a good deal on Mass Effect 2 and wound up getting sucked into it. About 30 hours in now and I just don't want it to end, the game is soooooooooooo goooooooooood. My only complaint is that the main storyline isn't quite as compelling as the first game's, but that's more than made up for in the metric shitton of stuff there is to do and explore. They definitely improved the side missions from Mass Effect 1 and made them much more involved.

[Marble]

From late last Friday, all weekend and and Monday I spent most of my time in front of a 3rd Strike cab, either at Shadowloo Showdown or at Bluehouse arcade on the next street over. Had a really great weekend playing top Aus players and also Tokido, couldn't imagine anything more fun and I improved a lot.

Now that I'm home I've resumed playing Ninja Ryukenden/Gaiden (PAL version "Shadow Warriors"). I can one life it up to the last level but haven't beat it yet. So close!

[xris]

Antbody else try the new Dead Space 2 demo? Looks to be more of the same, which is exactly what I want! Can't wait for the next game from the current king of survival horror!

[Davey]

Crazy Taxi on XBLA. My goal is to get to the first page of both the Arcade and Original leaderboards (15th place or better). I think I'm around 18-20th on both last time I checked. But the closer you get to the top, the harder it gets to move up.

[Aquas]

I recently beat Zelda: Wind Waker after a three year (or so) hiatus. It was a cool last boss fight.
Also been playing Street Fighter Alpha 2, stretchin' limbs with Dhalsim on GGPO. Man, I get my ass kicked by the good guys. Might learn another character soon.
Ys 2 Complete is also on the side, not too far in.
I tried King of Fighters '98 tonight and really fumbled around with the game (wasn't really feeling it) but I'd like to play more and see what it's all about. I've never really played the KOF games much.

Oh, yeah, Commando and Son Son in MAME a bit. They the fuckin' ace shit.

[BrianC]

I have been playing Castlevania 1 on NES. I decided to play this a bit more before playing more Akumajou Densetsu (which I got early).

[CMoon]

Yakuza 3, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, and yes, still playing Etrian Odyssey 3.

[No_not_like_Quake]

Final Fantasy 2 Famicom emulator. You level up various skills, rather than leveling up a character completely. Many people seem to dislike this but I find it adds to the strategy as you can form characters as you want. Beat the shit out of your own party to raise hp ect.

[SniperElite]

The Legend of Zelda, and A Link to the Past both on the GBA SP

[mesh control]

Playing DMC 4 atm. It feel slower than the first one or maybe it's just me. I'm going to work backwards through the series in the coming weeks.

A friend and I tackling EDF too. Most fun I've had with a video game in llllllllllloooooooooonggg while.

[professor ganson]

Disgaea 2 still. I'm spending all of my time in the item world, and am completely neglecting the main game. I think I'm about 75 hours in to the game, and I'm only about half through with the main game. Leveling up rare items is just too much fun.

[xris]

^ Such a fun game. I spent way too much time on Disgaea 2! but, I beat all of the hidden bosses, got the hidden charas, and got everybody's levels ridiculously high. The only thing I didn't do was get all of the pirate maps. Do yourself a favor if you haven't already, and turn off all of the attack animations, it'll save you so much time. Use Rozalin, she buffs stats of men if she's right next to her, and you can stack her kneel before me ability like crazy. And, bribing the court is way easier then fighting through it, totally worth it to use up extra items that way. Always transmigrate as soon as possible. I loved that game way too much, and 3 is one of the two games I'm sad I don't have a PS3 for, and hope they hurry up and put it on the PSP.
edit: it is worth it to spend the extra time in the item world also, high level items are great, it's a good way to get some xp, but just throw your way through most levels.

[PainAmplifier]

I have all three games and I agree that the Disgaea series is a fun one. The first one is my favorite even if it is the one that has the fewest extra frills. I find that the third game improved a lot of the more tedious aspects of the first two games, but at the same time it 'over improved' leveling and innocent gathering with the Puppy Paw Stick. I'm awaiting the fourth game sometime next year to see how they have refined the game system once again. Although I'm a bit uncertain if the new 3D styling of the game won't look a bit rough. It's still in developement, so I'm hoping they're still cleaning up some of the graphical glitches I've noticed in the released screen shots/gameplay previews.

For myself, I'm currently bruising my way through Demon's Souls. I'm enjoying this game quite a bit even though the whole die and lose your body thing is a bit of a wet blanket when it comes to learning the game and the levels for the first time and the upgrade costs for Stats rises a bit too fast for easy character development testing. I suppose that is what makes the various starting characters useful over just one. But at the same time, having just about every online guide tell you to pick Royal and then not explaining early game development in detail is a good way to screw up that character anyway.

I'm starting to find my CRT TV to be not quite good enough anymore, despite the fact that it's in near mint condition. I really only use it for gaming these days and with all the newer PS3 games being in HD it's hard to read certain things in games on a SD screen. Oh well, something to put on the list of things to 'upgrade' again.

[professor ganson]

Do yourself a favor if you haven't already, and turn off all of the attack animations, it'll save you so much time. Use Rozalin, she buffs stats of men if she's right next to her, and you can stack her kneel before me ability like crazy. And, bribing the court is way easier then fighting through it, totally worth it to use up extra items that way. Always transmigrate as soon as possible.

Thanks, xris. Nice to have some pointers. I'll definitely turn off animations, like you suggest. I'm so glad I stuck with Rozalin even though she was a bit weak at the start. I gave her a good gun and she's become a brutal force. So other characters get stat boosts by being next to her? I'll have to look into transmigration. I haven't tried it yet.

Eventually I want to play through the first game again because I skipped most of the story, but my daughter is playing it right now. She just finished Disgaea 3, and she really liked it a lot. For me the geo blocks were a bit tedious, and the game didn't really catch. If it was portable, I'd definitely try it again.

[PainAmplifier]

Thanks, xris. Nice to have some pointers. I'll definitely turn off animations, like you suggest. I'm so glad I stuck with Rozalin even though she was a bit weak at the start. I gave her a good gun and she's become a brutal force. So other characters get stat boosts by being next to her? I'll have to look into transmigration. I haven't tried it yet.

Haven't tried transmigration? I find it odd that you haven't played with that yet. Although considering that tranmigration in the first two games wasn't nearly as important as it was in the third for unlocking skills it's not that big of an issue.


In general though, I find it easier to reincarnate once the difficulty starts to get higher than my characters abilities rather than rushing through the item world to bulk up their gear. Not only do aptitudes improve for characters in higher tiers of the same class, but the added bonus points also means their stats on a level to level basis are higher as well. It makes regaining those levels easier as well.

If Rosalin seems a bit weak, transmigrate her once and raise the bonus points on the stat(s) for her weapon. I think for Rosalin this would be HIT if you are using guns as her weapon. An extra 5-10 points per stat can make a big difference, especially at lower levels.

When reincarnating, unlike character creation, always gather enough mana to reincarnate at "Genius" level for the most stat points. Stats allocated at creation and on reincarnation are roughly used as a level multiplyer. So final amount of Stat X at level Y is equal to (X * Y + Gear * Aptitude).

The more points allocated to a stat the faster that stat grows. This let's you take higher and higher level enemies while your characters are lower and lower level with the same or lower gear. I consider HIT to be one of the more important stats to allocate at least a few points to for that reason alone. The majority of my points go into the governing attacking stat (ATK or INT) for the weapon that character uses. But I also try to raise SP and SPD as well as HIT to acceptable levels as well.

There is a bit of a curve to how effective transmigrating is though. For example, if a stat starts at 9 pts, raising it to 18 is a 100% increase per level. But raising 18 to 27 is only a 50% gain, etc. Same goes for how many levels you go up before transmigrating. If you have 0 stored levels, transmigrating at L100 is good. Transmigrating again at L100 is less good each time you do it. To make the same gains in bonus points you need to transmigrate at a higher level. You will eventually reach a 'soft cap' on how much you gain per stat and level at tranmigration, but you can still keep transmigrating until total stored levels are reached. (The bonuses you get each time will just level off the closer you get.) Some of which is simply limited by how good the level grinding maps are and how much time you have to spend to regain all lost levels. That is, it doesn't matter if you can still double your stat gains by raising the level you transmigrate at, if getting to that level takes longer than transmigrating twice at a lower level. This is why many guides say that transmigrating is unnecessary to beat the story levels of the game. (I like to do it once or twice at the most, to make the games easier, but anything more than that is wasted time if all you want to do is complete the story maps.)

I would basically double the levels you need before transmigrating again until you reach 2,000 or 4,000 levels. (Which ever bores you the least.) So transmigrate at 25, 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, etc. Disgaea 3 is setup in such a way that with the right innocents and access to a certain map you can go from L1 to L9999 in 3-5 battles. In Disgaea 1 or 2 I haven't found a good way to do that yet, so 2k or 4K is the where I tend to draw the line for those games. I think this kind of leveling isn't really necessary overall, but it can be fun for some people to max out like that.

[null1024]

Sonic Colors [getting red rings is annoying the shit out of me.]
Sonic 4 [blah, stuck on act 2 of Lost Labyrinth, I hate that torch puzzle.]
Megaman 9 [and sucking.]
Pokemon Red [just started, just entered Pewter. Currently just Bulbasaur and Pidgey in my party.]

[drauch]

Still playing the regular garbage. Kinda starting to play Blazing Star and Mushi Futari Original in spurts. Also playing piss loads of Bust-a-Move Again with a friend (who I pwned tonight).

[sjewkestheloon]

Thanks, xris. Nice to have some pointers. I'll definitely turn off animations, like you suggest. I'm so glad I stuck with Rozalin even though she was a bit weak at the start. I gave her a good gun and she's become a brutal force. So other characters get stat boosts by being next to her? I'll have to look into transmigration. I haven't tried it yet.

Haven't tried transmigration? I find it odd that you haven't played with that yet. Although considering that tranmigration in the first two games wasn't nearly as important as it was in the third for unlocking skills it's not that big of an issue.


In general though, I find it easier to reincarnate once the difficulty starts to get higher than my characters abilities rather than rushing through the item world to bulk up their gear. Not only do aptitudes improve for characters in higher tiers of the same class, but the added bonus points also means their stats on a level to level basis are higher as well. It makes regaining those levels easier as well.

If Rosalin seems a bit weak, transmigrate her once and raise the bonus points on the stat(s) for her weapon. I think for Rosalin this would be HIT if you are using guns as her weapon. An extra 5-10 points per stat can make a big difference, especially at lower levels.

When reincarnating, unlike character creation, always gather enough mana to reincarnate at "Genius" level for the most stat points. Stats allocated at creation and on reincarnation are roughly used as a level multiplyer. So final amount of Stat X at level Y is equal to (X * Y + Gear * Aptitude).

The more points allocated to a stat the faster that stat grows. This let's you take higher and higher level enemies while your characters are lower and lower level with the same or lower gear. I consider HIT to be one of the more important stats to allocate at least a few points to for that reason alone. The majority of my points go into the governing attacking stat (ATK or INT) for the weapon that character uses. But I also try to raise SP and SPD as well as HIT to acceptable levels as well.

There is a bit of a curve to how effective transmigrating is though. For example, if a stat starts at 9 pts, raising it to 18 is a 100% increase per level. But raising 18 to 27 is only a 50% gain, etc. Same goes for how many levels you go up before transmigrating. If you have 0 stored levels, transmigrating at L100 is good. Transmigrating again at L100 is less good each time you do it. To make the same gains in bonus points you need to transmigrate at a higher level. You will eventually reach a 'soft cap' on how much you gain per stat and level at tranmigration, but you can still keep transmigrating until total stored levels are reached. (The bonuses you get each time will just level off the closer you get.) Some of which is simply limited by how good the level grinding maps are and how much time you have to spend to regain all lost levels. That is, it doesn't matter if you can still double your stat gains by raising the level you transmigrate at, if getting to that level takes longer than transmigrating twice at a lower level. This is why many guides say that transmigrating is unnecessary to beat the story levels of the game. (I like to do it once or twice at the most, to make the games easier, but anything more than that is wasted time if all you want to do is complete the story maps.)

I would basically double the levels you need before transmigrating again until you reach 2,000 or 4,000 levels. (Which ever bores you the least.) So transmigrate at 25, 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, etc. Disgaea 3 is setup in such a way that with the right innocents and access to a certain map you can go from L1 to L9999 in 3-5 battles. In Disgaea 1 or 2 I haven't found a good way to do that yet, so 2k or 4K is the where I tend to draw the line for those games. I think this kind of leveling isn't really necessary overall, but it can be fun for some people to max out like that.

Interesting post but I would add that Reincarnation (imo) should only be done when you have a simple and quick way of getting that character back to their old level and beyond. The most important thing is getting hold of a few reasonable legendaries, leveling them to the max and filling them with some useful residents.

In the first game I gave any characters that I wanted to powerlevel the sword skill Winged Slayer and boosted the equipment until I could wipe out the Cave of Trials map with a 3x3 grid of enemies in one turn.

[xris]

Sorry that this has spiraled off topic.
It's easy to get low level charas to jump back up in levels after transmigrating them, if you use a level 1 to pick up a high level chara to throw them, and have the top chara kill an enemy, each chara in the tower gets equal xp. Do this on a xp multiplier geo grid effect and a level 1 can jump to a level 20 in one kill! Do this a couple times, and it's right back up to a level 150 in minutes. You can have a stack of 10 guys and they all get the same amount of xp per kill. This is really the only way to handle the seemingly worthless approach of dropping a chara down to level 1. After transmigrating your chara a few times it will be way stronger at level 50 than an un-migrated chara at 250! The mithril knight is a force to be recognized.

[professor ganson]

Thanks, guys! I'll have to give this some serious thought. The idea of tossing away experience gained is so counterintuitive. Tink is nearly level 80, and I can't bear the thought of starting over with him.

[Kakizaki]

Beat the A ending of Nier today. Nier's game play isn't exactly the greatest, but the music, art direction, characters, voice acting and story are all pretty rad.

[ST Dragon]

Mega Man Zero on the Visual Boy Advance Emulator.

[PainAmplifier]

Thanks, guys! I'll have to give this some serious thought. The idea of tossing away experience gained is so counterintuitive. Tink is nearly level 80, and I can't bear the thought of starting over with him.

Level 80? *blink**blink* Level 80 is hardly anything worth worrying about. Even without super gear, that should be very easy to regain. Tink doesn't have the attack skills to make use of the first couple of better leveling maps, but between Sonic Roll and Nail Bat it's not that hard to build him back up regardless. And when you transmigrate experience isn't lost at all. It's just converted to bonus stats when you relevel.

At Level 80 on Tink you should have the highest level of shop gear unlocked already, and at least some additional/better gear as well. Although for the most part you can do this with just shop gear, and a belt or glasses depending on your exact stats and equipment.

For example, I loaded up my Disgaea 2 save since I knew that I hadn't done any major post game grinding in that one yet. (Still working on maxing post game in Disgaea 1&3 between other games)

My Tink was L93, but I was short a bit on Mana to transmigrate at Genius. I had about 4k and needed 5K. I checked my progress, subdued a Innocent for my Knight and did one mid level item (First 10 levels) to gather and subdue some Gladiators. I hit a Mana potion shop on the last level before the Item General, but it wasn't necessary by the time I found it. So this was my Tink to Start:

Tink: Level 102 1 previous Migration for 21 stored levels.
Base stats/Geared Stats - Phoenix Feather, Battle Vest, Devil Ring, Cross Trainers (No extra or Subdued innocents)
HP 2373/2681
SP 696/1299
ATK 938/3808
INT 324/358
HIT 692/2895
DEF 418/860
RES 551/1094
SPD 878/1884

Sonic Roll was Level 4
Nail Bat was Level 6
Tink had 8 Felonies

Mostly junk gear as you can see, the Phoenix Feather was bought from the shop for ~40M so that was the only 'good' item on him. I had a Legendary Monster weapon in my WH, but it was a Blue/Magic weapon and had 500 less attack.

Transmigrating Points/Bonus Point Allocation: Bonus points to spend was 11
HP 22
SP 17
ATK 20 +8
DEF 13
INT 10
RES 15
HIT 17 +3
SPD 22

I did the Transmigration, then went to the Alche City - Grave of Alchemy map where you have some Knights and various mages on +XP blocks right near your base panel. You need to have this map cleared once already on the current playthrough to get this map/mob setup. I had Tink do a Sonic Roll across the two Mages and used two other character to clear the remaining mobs (doesn't matter who) so that the map is cleared in one turn. This gave Tink +20 levels. Doing it again a few more times leveled Tink up to Lvl 26/29/32.

As you can see levels per clear drops off pretty fast, but that's because Tink doesn't have a good skill to clear the 2x2 blocks of enemies. Next best leveling map is Cave of Ordeals 1 but you need to have 3 characters that can hit two mobs on a diagonal as well as the one you are leveling. For Tink, since he can only kill one per turn with skills/attacks this is no better than the previous map. (2x L32 mobs is the same as 1x L60 at CoO1) And since going through the whole make enemies stronger/weaker is a waste of time without some good gear I don't do it at this point. Cave of Ordeals 4 would be really good for xp, but since the mobs on that map are L250 at base, Tink isn't good enough yet with this gear to clear them. If you have a good pair of mages or other characters to help weaken and kill them this could still be an option though. I find it still a bit early for my characters to do this though. Takes too long to setup and kill everything, so it's faster to kill more lower level mobs in a item world run that it does to clear CoO4 with my current chars.

So I went to the shop and Bought a Foresight, to do an item world run. Mobs start at L53+ on this item, and my other characters where in the 75-130 level range with roughly that same kind of gear. (No real leveled or boosted gear yet, a few Lovers and a couple innocents or 1-2 Migrations but nothing major.) After 10 floors, with at least 1 kill each floor (Got a few extra with Sonic Roll on a couple floors.) Tink was Level 85. (And my Healer got the Tutors from this item)

(Geared as above) Tink after transmigration at Level 1 / Level 85
HP 141 / 2417
SP 307 / 1215
ATK 1454 / 3709
DEF 228 / 914
INT 21 / 415
RES 279 / 1081
HIT 1116 / 2811
SPD 513 / 1784

Comparing the same gear at the two levels.

LVL 102 / LVL 85
HP 2681 / 2417
SP 1299 / 1215
ATK 3808 / 3709
INT 358 / 415
HIT 2895 / 2811
DEF 860 / 914
RES 1094 / 1081
SPD 1884/ 1784

Although the stats are still a little lower in most cases, you can see how they will be higher in just a few more levels and be above them even before I reach the old level I started at. And this whole process didn't take all that long. With a different character that has a better attack skill you can go up in levels faster. Adell went from 130 to ~173 while I was doing this simply from Big Bang and clearing mobs to get to the next level. (He is my highest/best character for this game.)

Also, keep in mind that this is some pretty low level levels and I have yet to do any item leveling or innocent gathering. Once you add a few more stored levels to get extra bonus points and your base stats rise a bit, things can take off by a pretty good amount. So instead of just 20 +8 to his attack you will quickly be at 30 + 15 before too long and things go up from there.

And none of this required I do any enemy strength changing, super gear, tons of innocents or other preperations. And since I was probably going to be clearing items for innocents in preperation of some item/character improving, transmigrating and leveling one character out of the ones I level with the most is very easy and doesn't take much extra time. Even the 40M for the one shop weapon isn't that hard to have by this point if you've done a few item world runs from L1-10 on some mid to high shop bought items, clearing the bonus gauge for things to sell.

Once you are able to clear CoO4 with just two characters in one turn, things will speed up once again in leveling. And you can start bootstrapping your other characters up as well. (That should get you into the 400-1000+ level range if you can clear that a few times quickly.)

So, I wouldn't worry about just 80 levels on Tink at this point. Transmigrating him now is worth the extra effort if you like to use him.

[professor ganson]

Cool, I'm reading with great interest this impressive post. I've just reincarnated three characters. I'll mess around with them for a while and then think about Tink.

[Vexorg]

Thanks, xris. Nice to have some pointers. I'll definitely turn off animations, like you suggest. I'm so glad I stuck with Rozalin even though she was a bit weak at the start. I gave her a good gun and she's become a brutal force. So other characters get stat boosts by being next to her? I'll have to look into transmigration. I haven't tried it yet.

Haven't tried transmigration? I find it odd that you haven't played with that yet. Although considering that tranmigration in the first two games wasn't nearly as important as it was in the third for unlocking skills it's not that big of an issue.


In general though, I find it easier to reincarnate once the difficulty starts to get higher than my characters abilities rather than rushing through the item world to bulk up their gear. Not only do aptitudes improve for characters in higher tiers of the same class, but the added bonus points also means their stats on a level to level basis are higher as well. It makes regaining those levels easier as well.

If Rosalin seems a bit weak, transmigrate her once and raise the bonus points on the stat(s) for her weapon. I think for Rosalin this would be HIT if you are using guns as her weapon. An extra 5-10 points per stat can make a big difference, especially at lower levels.

When reincarnating, unlike character creation, always gather enough mana to reincarnate at "Genius" level for the most stat points. Stats allocated at creation and on reincarnation are roughly used as a level multiplyer. So final amount of Stat X at level Y is equal to (X * Y + Gear * Aptitude).

The more points allocated to a stat the faster that stat grows. This let's you take higher and higher level enemies while your characters are lower and lower level with the same or lower gear. I consider HIT to be one of the more important stats to allocate at least a few points to for that reason alone. The majority of my points go into the governing attacking stat (ATK or INT) for the weapon that character uses. But I also try to raise SP and SPD as well as HIT to acceptable levels as well.

There is a bit of a curve to how effective transmigrating is though. For example, if a stat starts at 9 pts, raising it to 18 is a 100% increase per level. But raising 18 to 27 is only a 50% gain, etc. Same goes for how many levels you go up before transmigrating. If you have 0 stored levels, transmigrating at L100 is good. Transmigrating again at L100 is less good each time you do it. To make the same gains in bonus points you need to transmigrate at a higher level. You will eventually reach a 'soft cap' on how much you gain per stat and level at tranmigration, but you can still keep transmigrating until total stored levels are reached. (The bonuses you get each time will just level off the closer you get.) Some of which is simply limited by how good the level grinding maps are and how much time you have to spend to regain all lost levels. That is, it doesn't matter if you can still double your stat gains by raising the level you transmigrate at, if getting to that level takes longer than transmigrating twice at a lower level. This is why many guides say that transmigrating is unnecessary to beat the story levels of the game. (I like to do it once or twice at the most, to make the games easier, but anything more than that is wasted time if all you want to do is complete the story maps.)

I would basically double the levels you need before transmigrating again until you reach 2,000 or 4,000 levels. (Which ever bores you the least.) So transmigrate at 25, 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, etc. Disgaea 3 is setup in such a way that with the right innocents and access to a certain map you can go from L1 to L9999 in 3-5 battles. In Disgaea 1 or 2 I haven't found a good way to do that yet, so 2k or 4K is the where I tend to draw the line for those games. I think this kind of leveling isn't really necessary overall, but it can be fun for some people to max out like that.

I also found that another thing that helps a lot is to have a good portal runner character for the item world. Tink seems to be the best option for this. you can get his movement stat up higher than just about anyone else. I think with the right items you can get him up to a MV stat of 25, he can fly over enemies, and has some pretty good specials (sonic roll and nail bat in particular)

I've got over 200 hours into a save file, but haven't played in quite a while. One of these days I need to go find the last treasure map I need to get to the Land of Carnage.

Oh, and don't forget to stack characters when you go to collect felonies (throw a stack of characters onto the dark court portal.) You can increase the rate of XP game by as much as 300% by collecting felonies. This can be a bit tricky to do with nonhuman characters though. You'll be able to repeat felonies by transmigrating, and once you get stats high enough you can get as many as 12 felonies at a time.

[PainAmplifier]

I also found that another thing that helps a lot is to have a good portal runner character for the item world. Tink seems to be the best option for this. you can get his movement stat up higher than just about anyone else. I think with the right items you can get him up to a MV stat of 25, he can fly over enemies, and has some pretty good specials (sonic roll and nail bat in particular)

I've got over 200 hours into a save file, but haven't played in quite a while. One of these days I need to go find the last treasure map I need to get to the Land of Carnage.

Oh, and don't forget to stack characters when you go to collect felonies (throw a stack of characters onto the dark court portal.) You can increase the rate of XP game by as much as 300% by collecting felonies. This can be a bit tricky to do with nonhuman characters though. You'll be able to repeat felonies by transmigrating, and once you get stats high enough you can get as many as 12 felonies at a time.

Runners are helpful, although I've found that Disgaea 2 has some of the hardest 'random' item world maps to work through out of all three games in the series so far.

If I remember correctly both Tink and the Mothman monster class can both reach 31 MV. That's with a weapon and three pairs of the best shoes w/boosts. Neither one has an attack that can move a gatekeeper off the portal, so there is a limit to how useful they are without a Fist user to push gatekeepers if they are too strong to kill outright and your trying to run quickly through the item world.

Between all three Disgaea games so far I probably have over 1000 hours into the series. ^_^;

[burgerkingdiamond]

If I had the time to devote to it I would be playing the shit out of Fallout : New Vegas since I absolutely love III.

[GateofThunderforceIII]

Been on a gaming binge the last couple of weeks finishing Enslaved (360-great game, would give an , Fist of the North Star (PS3-okay game...a 6), Vanquish (PS3-pretty mind blowing...an 8.5), Kane and Lynch 2 (360-not as bad as its rep says...a 7) and now playing Spatterhouse 360.

I thought going from Vanquish to Kane and Lynch 2 would be a mistake, but not at all. KaL2's 60 fps frame rate is awesome! I wish developers today would wake the hell up and make more games with this frame rate...

[Acid King]

Back mentoring in Ninja Gaiden 2. Just finished the seventh test of valor and am working on the 10th chapter now.