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Elixir wrote:Cave-stg's beloved member "Hive" has taken the opportunity to plagiarise this guide, and post it here:

http://forums.ffshrine.org/f17/guide-ow ... mups-74115

And here:

http://www.gf-park.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567

Do you see a pattern?

The second act of plagiarism is of course some inner circle garbage which I couldn't register on, but I've already responded to the ffshrine one.

The funny thing is, he's a mod on this gf-park thing. I really have to wonder how much of the "information" he's provided has actually been original.
I registered at gf-park just to comment that a bit of credit (where due) would have been nice. Hive didn't seem too impressed, but it appears he has at least edited his original post, now linking to this thread as source. I just don't get why when he was accepting thanks/praise for the "nice guide" he didn't mention that someone else did the hard work :?


EDIT: A recent reply there suggests the guide wasn't going uncredited, but google cache shows the source link wasn't there before.
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stuntman wrote:EDIT: A recent reply there suggests the guide wasn't going uncredited, but google cache shows the source link wasn't there before.
Perhaps you should point this out to them, as I still can't. The guide was going uncredited up until I pointed it out yesterday. And regardless of this fact, it was still taken without permission as I was never asked.

You may as well ask them to delete the thread, too.
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Anyone in the US had experience with RMAs? My looks like it may be begin to suffer A/V port failure. Currently unable to get any right channel audio out of it regardless of which cable I use and what speakers it's hooked up to. Optical works fine.
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njiska wrote:Anyone in the US had experience with RMAs? My looks like it may be begin to suffer A/V port failure. Currently unable to get any right channel audio out of it regardless of which cable I use and what speakers it's hooked up to. Optical works fine.
I sent my JP360 to MS when it got the RRoD a couple of years ago. They fixed it for free, even though I live in the US. Just make sure you : register your JP360 on the xbox.com support site, fill out a repair order online (do not call), make sure you let them know it's a Japanese console (comments section on the repair request form), and make sure you tell them that you want the same console/same region console back if possible.

it might also be a good idea to attach notes on the console itself before you send it to them.
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Thanks!
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Elixir wrote:
stuntman wrote:EDIT: A recent reply there suggests the guide wasn't going uncredited, but google cache shows the source link wasn't there before.
Perhaps you should point this out to them, as I still can't. The guide was going uncredited up until I pointed it out yesterday. And regardless of this fact, it was still taken without permission as I was never asked.

You may as well ask them to delete the thread, too.
My pass isn't working, so I guess Hive banned me. No surprise there!
I guess he sees nothing wrong with re-posting other people's work without giving credit as long as he doesn't claim it to be his own. But he's no doubt aware that some people will assume its his, which is all good when trying to grow an e-penis. It might be better to just laugh and take it as a compliment :lol:
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After reading all this guide, I got a major head-ache!
Do we have to be that neat just to be able to play some region locked JPN shooters on the X-Box 360?!
Come on now!
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ST Dragon wrote:After reading all this guide, I got a major head-ache!
Do we have to be that neat just to be able to play some region locked JPN shooters on the X-Box 360?!
Come on now!
Yeah, you buy a JP 360.
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Oh crap! I set up my JP account, using my existing Hotmail account as my email. Doing that will put you in the Marketplaces of your own region. In other words, no Japanese content for you.

So Lesson Learned The Hard Way(TM): DON'T USE AN EXISTING HOTMAIL / WINDOWS LIVE ACCOUNT IF IT'S NOT A JAPANESE ONE. Otherwise you're gonna have to make yet another Gamertag.
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speedlolita wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:After reading all this guide, I got a major head-ache!
Do we have to be that neat just to be able to play some region locked JPN shooters on the X-Box 360?!
Come on now!
Yeah, you buy a JP 360.
Yeah and what do I do if I want to play games of my own region, I buy a 2nd Xbox360 from my region as well?!
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ST Dragon wrote:
speedlolita wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:After reading all this guide, I got a major head-ache!
Do we have to be that neat just to be able to play some region locked JPN shooters on the X-Box 360?!
Come on now!
Yeah, you buy a JP 360.
Yeah and what do I do if I want to play games of my own region, I buy a 2nd Xbox360 from my region as well?!
Almost all USA games play fine on a J360, if that's where you live. But I get the feeling you're just complaining to complain. Region locks are nothing new, get used to it.
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He's from Greece, actually. There's a forumer-generated list of what games for NTSC-U/C and PAL systems will and won't work on an NTSC-J region-coded X360 here: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29913
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brentsg wrote:[Almost all USA games play fine on a J360, if that's where you live. But I get the feeling you're just complaining to complain. Region locks are nothing new, get used to it.
No I'm not complaining. I would just like to enter the Xbox360 Shmups realm without having to buy 2 different consoles for Japanese & Euro Pal games. And it’s in the Euro Pal region where I am, not in the US.
And trust me, I'm not new to region locks. I've practically modded every single major console from the 80s, 90s up to the PS-2 & Xbox, to able to play pretty much everything there is on them.


Also, Please excuse my ignorance, but are all XBLA games downloadable & playable on all region Xbox360s played on any region?
For example a JPNXbox360 used in the EU.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but are all XBLA games downloadable & playable on all region Xbox360s played on any region?
For example a JPNXbox360 used in the EU.
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ST Dragon wrote:
brentsg wrote:[Almost all USA games play fine on a J360, if that's where you live. But I get the feeling you're just complaining to complain. Region locks are nothing new, get used to it.
No I'm not complaining. I would just like to enter the Xbox360 Shmups realm without having to buy 2 different consoles for Japanese & Euro Pal games. And it’s in the Euro Pal region where I am, not in the US.
And trust me, I'm not new to region locks. I've practically modded every single major console from the 80s, 90s up to the PS-2 & Xbox, to able to play pretty much everything there is on them.


Also, Please excuse my ignorance, but are all XBLA games downloadable & playable on all region Xbox360s played on any region?
For example a JPNXbox360 used in the EU.
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ST Dragon wrote:Please excuse my ignorance, but are all XBLA games downloadable & playable on all region Xbox360s played on any region?
For example a JPNXbox360 used in the EU.
I have a JP 360 and I have two accounts on it, one on the Japanese XBLA store and one on the US XBLA store. I can use games from either on it with no problem. I would assume the same goes for the EU games if the US games work.
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Region locking exists for XBLA content but it's few and far between - the only region locked downloadable game I've ever encountered is 1 vs 100 (though that wasn't downloadable in the traditional sense either).
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Cthulhu wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:Please excuse my ignorance, but are all XBLA games downloadable & playable on all region Xbox360s played on any region?
For example a JPNXbox360 used in the EU.
I have a JP 360 and I have two accounts on it, one on the Japanese XBLA store and one on the US XBLA store. I can use games from either on it with no problem. I would assume the same goes for the EU games if the US games work.
Do you pay separately for each different region XBLA account you own?
Or is each account linked / locked to your console's serial / id number? Meaning that you have to buy another console for a New account?
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ST Dragon wrote: Do you pay separately for each different region XBLA account you own?
Or is each account linked / locked to your console's serial / id number? Meaning that you have to buy another console for a New account?
Your account is linked to an email address / Windows Live ID. You can have more than one account on a single system - which I believe is what you have to do if you want to have access to the JP store and another one. You do not have to buy another console for a new account, but you will need to make a new gamertag and associate it with a unique Live ID.

A word of warning - DO NOT USE A "THROWAWAY" EMAIL ADDRESS. By this, I mean don't make a new one on hotmail and just toss the login info for it because it's a one-shot to make a new ID. I lost access to my old hotmail account I used for my original gamertag. I had it set to auto-login on my XBox and just stopped thinking about it. When I got a new system, I tried to get access to my email again so I could reset the password.

Long story short, I could not. I contacted several levels of MS help - Live ID support, hotmail support, XBLA support. Nobody could restore access because I didn't have my hotmail password and I couldn't tell them what any of the recent mail was (trying to explain how I hadn't used the account in years was to no avail). I had to give up all the XBLA games I purchased and start anew.

Don't do that. It sucks. :evil:
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Cthulhu wrote:
ST Dragon wrote: Do you pay separately for each different region XBLA account you own?
Or is each account linked / locked to your console's serial / id number? Meaning that you have to buy another console for a New account?
Your account is linked to an email address / Windows Live ID. You can have more than one account on a single system - which I believe is what you have to do if you want to have access to the JP store and another one. You do not have to buy another console for a new account, but you will need to make a new gamertag and associate it with a unique Live ID.

A word of warning - DO NOT USE A "THROWAWAY" EMAIL ADDRESS. By this, I mean don't make a new one on hotmail and just toss the login info for it because it's a one-shot to make a new ID. I lost access to my old hotmail account I used for my original gamertag. I had it set to auto-login on my XBox and just stopped thinking about it. When I got a new system, I tried to get access to my email again so I could reset the password.

Long story short, I could not. I contacted several levels of MS help - Live ID support, hotmail support, XBLA support. Nobody could restore access because I didn't have my hotmail password and I couldn't tell them what any of the recent mail was (trying to explain how I hadn't used the account in years was to no avail). I had to give up all the XBLA games I purchased and start anew.

Don't do that. It sucks. :evil:
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So how different could Hotmail be? (I've never had a Hotmail account to verify this my self)
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ST Dragon wrote:Wait! That makes no sense. I've had an ancient Yahoo e-mail (from 1998!) resurrected twice (it was de-activated by yahoo, since it wasn’t used for years) as well as resetting its password (Having forgotten it), by just using the yahoo automated recovery procedures step by step (birthday, questions, etc...)

So how different could Hotmail be? (I've never had a Hotmail account to verify this my self)
The problem was that I had the Live ID set to autologin on the 360, so I had forgotten the password to it. The only way they would help me recover it was by sending it to my hotmail account. I hadn't used the account in years, and I had chosen a very dumb 'security question' about something I was doing in class 5+ years ago when I made the account. Since I couldn't answer the question they wouldn't let me do anything with it.

I can understand not letting me recover the hotmail account, that was my fault. But they would not let me get back the Live ID even if I gave them the full billing address / credit card info for _every purchase ever made_ on that ID. That really pissed me off.
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Cthulhu wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:Wait! That makes no sense. I've had an ancient Yahoo e-mail (from 1998!) resurrected twice (it was de-activated by yahoo, since it wasn’t used for years) as well as resetting its password (Having forgotten it), by just using the yahoo automated recovery procedures step by step (birthday, questions, etc...)

So how different could Hotmail be? (I've never had a Hotmail account to verify this my self)
The problem was that I had the Live ID set to autologin on the 360, so I had forgotten the password to it. The only way they would help me recover it was by sending it to my hotmail account. I hadn't used the account in years, and I had chosen a very dumb 'security question' about something I was doing in class 5+ years ago when I made the account. Since I couldn't answer the question they wouldn't let me do anything with it.

I can understand not letting me recover the hotmail account, that was my fault. But they would not let me get back the Live ID even if I gave them the full billing address / credit card info for _every purchase ever made_ on that ID. That really pissed me off.
Excuse me, never mind about the games you bought, but wasn't the initial XBLA account on your real name? Since you've actually paid for it, didn't they send you any official billing papers / receipt on your name for that specific account?! So you could claim that account simply by presenting your valid ID card & receipts to them as the rightful owner?!

By the way you present it, for them you’re nothing more than an e-mail and not actual person, so if that e-mail for some reason “dies” or gets discarded, it’s as if you’re gone too!
This is obscured!

You could even sue them for this!
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You really couldn't.
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I will soon have replaced my release day j360 with a slim j360, thus continuing my conquest to record video from 360s in quality that isn't bullshit. (bullshit sucks!)

Just a reminder to everyone, the Slim 360s DON'T Have a Memory card slot. if you stored information on a memory card slot device like I did, it would be in your best interests to go out and get a USB drive and do a Content Transfer (Highlight the memory card in the Storage menu, push Y, then select "Transfer Content")
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Updated upcoming releases, added Daifukkatsu's install size along with Radirgy Noah gamerpics.
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Just a question for anybody here that owns a J360 and has MvC2 on XBLA. Is there a way to get the menus to show up in English? MvC2 is the only game I have that this happens with, I've set my language and locale to English and US, and I can't find the option in-game to change language settings. I can navigate just based on menu knowledge, but it's a bit annoying. Anyone know if there's a way to correct this? As I mentioned, this is the only game I own this happens with.
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drunkninja24 wrote:Just a question for anybody here that owns a J360 and has MvC2 on XBLA. Is there a way to get the menus to show up in English? MvC2 is the only game I have that this happens with, I've set my language and locale to English and US, and I can't find the option in-game to change language settings. I can navigate just based on menu knowledge, but it's a bit annoying. Anyone know if there's a way to correct this? As I mentioned, this is the only game I own this happens with.
Why not just create a non-Japanese account and play the game using it? Should work, or are you doing that already?
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Capcom's XBLA games all play in their Japanese versions on Japanese 360s. Megaman 9 is Rockman 9, for example, and contains no English text regardless of which region of XBL account you've downloaded it with or which you're playing it on. Nothing you can do to change it, as far as I know.
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E. Randy Dupre wrote:Capcom's XBLA games all play in their Japanese versions on Japanese 360s. Megaman 9 is Rockman 9, for example, and contains no English text regardless of which region of XBL account you've downloaded it with or which you're playing it on. Nothing you can do to change it, as far as I know.
This is true. Konami's games do not. The title screen of Konami's XBLA games reads the console's region, but voices and menu language is loaded from your profile's language. If you have a Japanese Account with the language set to English, the game loads in English.
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ok, i have a problem

i downloaded the 1.51 DLC for Daifukkatsu, but the game won't recognize it
when i look onto the memory settings, the file is like without an account, so it won't show up in the game

how do i fix this?

edit: never mind i was supposed to start the game while on xbox live
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