XII Stag for PS-2...

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:54 am

OK, so I'm going to try to complete my PS-2 Shoot Em Up collection today... XII Stag (EURO-PAL) was very hard to find & have been searching for months.
I finally spotted it today at a video club. The disc is near mint condition (Hasn't been rented too many times) but the bastid is asking 40Euros (48$) for it!
I'm not sure if he has the PS-2 DVD Box... he does have the manual & box cover however.

So is it worth this price?
Cause if I don't get it from there, I'll have to order it from the internet & that's something I would like to avoid.
There is no way I'll find this from any shop, as I've searched everywhere!

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:57 am

Seeing how you can order it from Amazon.co.uk for almost a third of that, I'd say it's not worth it. The PAL version shouldn't be more than 20 EUR anywhere.

I'm curious, why would you want to avoid ordering games off the internet? As long as you use respectable sellers you have nothing to fear.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:56 am

XII Stag plays like an early-90s mediocre megadrive shooter.

There I said it.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:19 pm

icycalm wrote:XII Stag plays like an early-90s mediocre megadrive shooter.

There I said it.

Don't say such bad things about my early 90's mediocre megadrive shooters!!!

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:43 pm

Ghegs wrote:Seeing how you can order it from Amazon.co.uk for almost a third of that, I'd say it's not worth it. The PAL version shouldn't be more than 20 EUR anywhere.

I'm curious, why would you want to avoid ordering games off the internet? As long as you use respectable sellers you have nothing to fear.

Well, patience isn't one of my virtues & I don't like waiting 5-6 days to receive the thing...
Anyways I'm quite fond of Early 90s MD shooters…

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:28 pm

Worth getting for cheap? Maybe. 50 bucks? Personally, I don't think so.

kid aphex · Post by **kid aphex** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:46 pm

This game gets a totally undeserved amount of flak.
Way better than any of the shit put out recently --- better than Chaos Field --- better than Trizeal --- way more soul put into it than Raiden 3.

Great game with classic old school "feel"

It's definitely worth it if you're into shooters.

Naiera · Post by **Naiera** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:51 pm

It's definitely not worth more than the €15 or so it SHOULD cost.

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:14 pm

kid aphex wrote:It's definitely worth it if you're into shooters.

I hated it. I guess opinions differ. I thought it was the least interesting shmup I've played in years.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:41 am

How does it compared to RayStorm, RayForce & Raiden I - II - Fighters & 1945 Strikers II, in graphics, music & gameplay departments?

Are the graphics bitmap like Raiden I & II or polygons like RayStorm?

Post by **Ghegs** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:07 am

There's quite a decent review up over at NTSC-UK.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:33 am

ST Dragon wrote:Are the graphics bitmap like Raiden I & II or polygons like RayStorm?

More like pre-rendered sprites. The backgrounds look a little Raiden II-esque but more polished. The sprite animations/scaling are pretty nice, but it's nothing that Soukyugurentai didn't do better.

Afterbirth · Post by **Afterbirth** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:31 pm

Its out on Budget in the UK. Order it at amazon.co.uk or play.com.

Its published by Digital Bros.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:20 pm

I brought this game today for £7.99 brand new and I happen to like this game quite a lot but saying that my view may be a little "tainted" since I did get it so cheaply plus my local import store are trying to flog it for £40 which I laughed at once I saw this at Gamestation lol.

I like how this game feels, OK so it's not the greatest shmup in the world but it's a very nice example of one and at least it tries to do something a little differnt and the gameplay is nicely paced and simple enough to understand.

Yeah I would recommend this gamem don't exspect the greatest game ever but it's worth picking up I feel specialy for the current price it's now going at!

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:39 pm

ST Dragon wrote:How does it compared to RayStorm, RayForce & Raiden I - II - Fighters & 1945 Strikers II, in graphics, music & gameplay departments?

Are the graphics bitmap like Raiden I & II or polygons like RayStorm?

There was a PC demo of the game you could D/L from Triangle Service's website (back before the release of the DC version of Trizeal).

I can't find it on the website ATM (maybe they removed it?). I could probably e-mail you the install file (I'm pretty sure it's under 8 MB). Or, would someone else be willing to host the file for a day or two?

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:50 pm

Was a full version ever released for the PC?

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:09 am

ST Dragon wrote:Was a full version ever released for the PC?

No. Just a single stage demo. But if you want to try out the game, it's a good way to do so.

AVT · Post by **AVT** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:40 am

Well, I tried this game for myself and I like it. Not too good, but not too bad either, funny and original weapoon system, You can kill everybody without without single shot. But what are conditions for alternative levels and bosses?

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:51 am

Kiken wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:Was a full version ever released for the PC?
No. Just a single stage demo. But if you want to try out the game, it's a good way to do so.

Where could one download this demo from?
I would love to try it before I spend 40Euros on a used original copy.
Thanks.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:56 am

AVT wrote:But what are conditions for alternative levels and bosses?

In a nutshell...kill specified enemies, or a certain amount, in x12 multiplier. I assume you know how to get the multiplier up.

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:49 pm

I hate the whole twist and shake thing, and theres just someting about the enemy movement patterns that makes me angry

ps. hello, its been awhile.

Klatrymadon · Post by **Klatrymadon** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:47 pm

http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17MX ... OXU30BGDDR

Here's the demo, chaps.

metallica_tyler · Post by **metallica_tyler** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:50 pm

Bal-Sagoth wrote:http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17MX ... OXU30BGDDR

Here's the demo, chaps.

thank you so much for posting that. But... i'll have to play it on a better PC.

I'm running an IBM 300GL PC w/ a 4MB integrated video card. 384MB Ram. and a 500mhz Celeron. I'm patient when it comes to PC's but this game is just unplayable on my setup.

Well.. at least I can hear the cool music which sounds great! The game ran at about 4FPS on my PC.

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:01 pm

That is a wierd setup too, the ram sticks out like a sore thumb.

metallica_tyler · Post by **metallica_tyler** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:39 am

well I went to my dad's house and played on his new computer.. worked great. I'm liking the game and will probably purchase it down the road.

TVG · Post by **TVG** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:17 pm

time for this again:

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:12 pm

I tried the demo but the display window is very small & Alt Enter doesn’t seem to switch to full screen.

oxtsu · Post by **oxtsu** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:34 am

The vagrant wrote:time for this again:

It's all about you.

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:03 am

The vagrant wrote:time for this again:

That's why there's a Rapid Side Attack button. Not everyone's willing to stick-wiggle, including those who are using D-pads to play.

Although holding down the RSA button and wiggling the stick simultaneously kicks your attacks into overdrive..

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:35 pm

The vagrant wrote:time for this again:

So I'm guessing you don't play the Psyvariar series either...